Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Peer review/Mirko Norac

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[edit] Mirko Norac

This article needs a peer review by some people familiar with the military conflict Mirko Norac was involved in and what military role he played. Furthermore a better understanding of customs in this war and martial law in general could be helpful.

The big problem is POV pushing, read the good article reviews and the other peer review. I think the authors deserve some help. Wandalstouring 00:04, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

  • Please see automated peer review suggestions here. Thanks, AZ t 22:42, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kirill Lokshin

Well, it's still a fairly weak article in general:

  • The lead needs major expansion.
  • {{Infobox Military Person}} needs to be added.
  • More citations throughout would be good; some of the current ones seem to be malformatted as well.

As far as the POV issues and so forth, some of the material in "War crimes" seems counterintuitively laid out. For example, the "Gospić killings" section begins with summarizing the events and then discussing the trial; I would suggest reversing the two, and having the summary linked explicitly with the criminal issue (e.g. "The court found that Norac had..."). Overall, though, I'm not sure what can be—or needs to be—done here; much of Norac's notability comes from the war crimes issues, so it's unavoidable that a large portion of the article will be devoted to discussing them. Kirill Lokshin 12:38, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Sure about that, but on the other hand he seems to be quite popular in Croatia (demonstrations for him) and his military achievements were recognized. From our point of view, we did hear about him, when he was accused of war crimes. But the logic that therefore nothing but the war crimes has to receive attention is not really objective.
The "Gospić killings" section has also been one of the issues I did not like, but as soon as you start an edit, you seem to provoke someone, so I wanted to discuss things here in a calm manner and have some people with experience on articles about controversial military commanders. Wandalstouring 13:19, 19 October 2006 (UTC)