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Contents 1 Cross-references 2 Family trees and charts 2.1 New Genealogy format 2.2 Dan's example 2.3 A variation 2.3.1 Comments 2.4 Adding some colours 2.4.1 Comments 2.5 Adding lots of colors 2.5.1 Comments 2.6 From Polish Wikipedia 2.6.1 Variant 1 2.6.2 Variant 2 2.6.3 Variant 3 2.6.3.1 Genealogia 2.7 Template:Familytree 3 Bio-templates 4 Participants

[edit] Cross-references

Wikipeople Project

GlobalFamilyTree

WikiTree

Buck 13:20, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Family trees and charts

[edit] New Genealogy format

Using Template:start, Template:s-hou, Template:s-fam, and Template:s-cite, you can now make this easy chart:

Person's House Cadet Branch of the Enter major house here Born: Birth Date [[]]
Direct Ancestry
WikiProject Genealogy	Father	Grandfather Grandfather's House
		Grandmother Grandmother's House
	Mother	Grandfather Grandfather's House
		Grandmother Grandmother's House
References
1. Cite your sources here

I figure that the current four generation chart takes a little too much space and that this format allows for a little more flexibility. It can also be docked to the succession lists on the bottom of pages, if the family is related to a noble family. It also removed the bulky titles for each generation, mostly because I think those are obvious.

[edit] Dan's example

This is a dummy how a genealogical ancestor table could look. More ideas and suggestions are greatly appreciated! (Was someting like this already done? I haven't found it anywhere/ Dan Koehl 13:01 Dec 9, 2002 (UTC)

Generations

I	II	III	IV
Proband: proband	Father: father	F. Father: fathers father	F. F. Father: fathers fathers father
			F. F. Mother: fathers fathers mother
		F. Mother: fathers mother	F. M. Father: fathers mothers father
			F. M. Mother: fathers mothers mother
	Mother: mother	M. Father: mothers father	M. F. Father: mothers fathers father
			M. F. Mother: mothers fathers mother
		M. Mother: mothers mother	M. M. Father: mothers mothers father
			M. M. Mother: mothers mothers mother

[edit] A variation

Here is a variation on the original theme. I know that this is not the traditional format for an ancestor chart, however I believe a small break with tradition will afford us much space.
Gaz 11:30 4 Mar 2003 UTC

Ancestors of: 1. proband
2. Father: father	4. F. Father: fathers father	8. F. F. Father: fathers fathers father
		9. F. F. Mother: fathers fathers mother
	5. F. Mother: fathers mother	10. F. M. Father: fathers mothers father
		11. F. M. Mother: fathers mothers mother
3. Mother: mother	6. M. Father: mothers father	12. M. F. Father: mothers fathers father
		13. M. F. Mother: mothers fathers mother
	7. M. Mother: mothers mother	14. M. M. Father: mothers mothers father
		15. M. M. Mother: mothers mothers mother

[edit] Comments

• I changed this a bit so that it includes the Ahnentafel (or Kekule) numbers, which are in my opinion indispensible. Tables are still very confusing to edit, it would be possible, I think, for someone with the requisite programming knowledge to make a 'wiki-syntax' that takes a list of 16 names (proband plus ancestors 2-15) as an argument and displays it as this sort of table? -- Someone else 22:46 Mar 7, 2003 (UTC)

• Good idea with Kekule. Some colors wouldn't harm? (Grey?) What I like with this concept instead of a picture, is that it's fast, it's just like a textpage, and its rather easy to insert the names (hyperlinks). As with the script, Someone, that sounds really even better. But until then, I think this is useable...Dan Koehl 02:13 Mar 12, 2003 (UTC)

[edit] Adding some colours

Ancestors of: 1. Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom
2. Father: George VI of the United Kingdom	4. F. Father: George V of the United Kingdom	8. F. F. Father: Edward VII of the United Kingdom
		9. F. F. Mother: Alexandra of Denmark
	5. F. Mother: Mary of Teck	10. F. M. Father: Francis of Teck
		11. F. M. Mother: Mary Adelaide of Cambridge
3. Mother: Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon	6. M. Father: Claude George Bowes-Lyon	12. M. F. Father: Claude Bowes-Lyon
		13. M. F. Mother: Frances Dora Smith
	7. M. Mother: Nina Cecelia Cavendish-Bentinck	14. M. M. Father: Charles William Cavendish-Bentinck
		15. M. M. Mother: Caroline Louisa Burnaby

[edit] Comments

• Looks good, and its also usable for those using 800x600 screens!Dan Koehl 11:06 Mar 12, 2003 (UTC)

• Yes, and how about pink for girls and blue for boys, but only on Person 1 203.45.253.89 11:12 Mar 12, 2003 (UTC)

[edit] Adding lots of colors

Ancestors of: 1. Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom
2. Father: George VI of the United Kingdom	4. F. Father: George V of the United Kingdom	8. F. F. Father: Edward VII of the United Kingdom
		9. F. F. Mother: Alexandra of Denmark
	5. F. Mother: Mary of Teck	10. F. M. Father: Francis of Teck
		11. F. M. Mother: Mary Adelaide of Cambridge
3. Mother: Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon	6. M. Father: Claude George Bowes-Lyon	12. M. F. Father: Claude Bowes-Lyon
		13. M. F. Mother: Frances Dora Smith
	7. M. Mother: Nina Cecelia Cavendish-Bentinck	14. M. M. Father: Charles William Cavendish-Bentinck
		15. M. M. Mother: Caroline Louisa Burnaby

[edit] Comments

• Noooooo! That looks far too gaudy - Gaz 13:26, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)

• Gets the point across though --Phil | Talk 13:42, Apr 2, 2004 (UTC)

• I've toned it down to see if that makes it any better (in 24 bit color) --Henrygb 17:50, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)

• Not a bit better - It is unnecessary anyway - It is accepted convention that the father is above and the mother below on this type of chart - Gaz 12:55, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)

[edit] From Polish Wikipedia

On Polish Wikipedia genealogical trees are more common. Here are the variants I have found:

[edit] Variant 1

from pl:Drzewo genealogiczne Piastów - a vertical family tree:

Siemowit albo Ziemowit IX wiek (tylko według legend, nie ma źródeł historycznych na to, że Siemowit istniał)
~ NN
└─>Leszek IX - X wiek (tylko według legend, nie ma źródeł historycznych na to, że Leszek istniał)
   ~ NN
   └─>Siemomysł X wiek (tylko według legend, nie ma źródeł historycznych na to, że Siemosył istniał)
      ~ NN
      ├─>Mieszko I (ok. 930 - 992), panował ok. 960-992
      │  ~ Oda (zm. 1023), córka Dytryka, margrabiego Marchii Północnej
      │  └─>Mieszko i Lambert
      │     └─>Dytryk
      │  ~ Dobrawa (zm. 977), córka Bolesława I Okrutnego, księcia Czech
      │  ├─>Bolesław I Chrobry (967 - 1025), panował 992 - 1025, król 1025 
      │  │  ~ NN, księżniczka węgierska
      │  │  └─>Bezprym (986-1032)
      │  │  ~ Emnilda Słowiańska (zm. 1017), córka księcia Dobromira
      │  │  ├─>Mieszko II Lambert (990 - 1034), panował 1025 - 1034, król Polski 1025-1031
      │  │  │  ~ Rycheza (zm. 1063), córka palatyna Lotaryngii
      │  │  │  ├─>Kazimierz I Odnowiciel (1016 - 1058), panował 1034(?)-1058
      │  │  │  │  ~ Maria Dobroniega (zm. 1087), córka Włodzimierza Wielkiego
      │  │  │  │  ├─>Bolesław II Szczodry (1042 - 1081), panował 1058-1079, król Polski od 1076
      │  │  │  │  │  ~ Wyszesława Światosławówna (?)
      │  │  │  │  │  └─>Mieszko (1069 - 1089)
      │  │  │  │  ├─>Władysław I Herman (1040 - 1102), panował 1079-1102
      │  │  │  │  │  ~ NN
      │  │  │  │  │  └─>Zbigniew (ok. 1070 - 1112), książę mazowiecki 1102 - 1106
      │  │  │  │  │  ~ Judyta Czeska(1056 - 1086), córka Wratysława II, króla Czech
      │  │  │  │  │  └─>Bolesław III Krzywousty (1086 - 1138), panował 1102-1138
      │  │  │  │  ├─>Świętosława
      │  │  │  │  │  ~ Wratysław II (1032 - 1092), książę Czech od 1061, król od 1085
      │  │  │  │  ├─>Mieszko (1045 - 1065)
      │  │  │  │  └─>Otto (1047 - 1048)
      │  │  │  ├─>Ryksa (1015 - 1052)
      │  │  │  │  ~ Bela I (1020 - 1063), król Węgier od 1060
      │  │  │  └─>Gertruda (1025 - 1108)
      │  │  │     ~ Izjasław I (1024 - 1078), wielki książę kijowski od 1054
      │  │  └─>Otto (zm. 1033)
      │  └─>Świętosława
      │     ~ Eryk Zwycięski (935 - 994), król Szwecji
      │     ~ Swen Widłobrody (ok. 960 - 1014), król Danii od 987
      └─>Czcibor (zm. 972)

[edit] Variant 2

pl:Wywód przodków Przemysła II - by generations, basically a simple and long list

[edit] Variant 3

pl:Katarzyna Habsburżanka as used in specific person article (vertical tree). Generated by a script by pl:Wikipedian:Warx.

[edit] Genealogia

Filip I Piękny ur. 22 VI 1478 zm. 25 IX 1506

Joanna Szalona ur. 6 XI 1479 zm. 12 IV 1555

Władysław II Jagiellończyk ur. 1 III 1456 zm. 13 III 1516

Anna de Foix ur. po 1469 zm. 26 VII 1502

Ferdynand I Habsburg ur. 10 III 1503 zm. 25 VII 1564

Anna Jagiellonka ur. 23 VII 1503 zm. 27 I 1547

		1 Franciszek III Gonzaga ur. 10 III 1533 zm. 22 II 1550 OO   22 X 1549		Katarzyna Habsburżanka ur. 15 IX 1533 zm. 28 II 1572		2 Zygmunt II August ur. 1 VIII 1520 zm. 7 VII 1572 OO   po 23 VI w 1553

Template:Gengen

[edit] Template:Familytree

Template:Familytree will generate trees like this one:

Grandma

Grandpa

Mom

Dad

Aunt Daisy

My brother Joe

Me!

My little sister

— Reinyday, 21:29, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bio-templates

Category:People infobox templates also contain family information.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 21:35, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Participants

Icelandic Hurricane 12:33, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Buck 12:18, 24 March 2006 (UTC)