Wikipedia:WikiProject Electoral districts in Canada/History
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This section is intended to present a timeline of how it came into being, morphed, abolished, and also, the MPs elected from this riding. As opposed to the "Geography" section, this one deals strictly with the electoral district itself, as controlled by Elections Canada and Representation Orders (2003).
- Confession: For every electoral district west of Ontario information is given on what districts gave up area/people to form the new electoral district, and likewise for its abolishment. That information came from this Parliamentary website. However, I later discovered that the top list of old electoral districts do not list what districts gave up area/people to form the new electoral district. Instead the list is of those ridings which have gave up area/people at any time, during any Representation order, to form the subject district, not just the creation Representation Order. Most are correct and I avoided the most obvious ones. Indeed, that is the biggest flaw with this section; only 2003 Representation Order is currently available, the rest are a mystery.
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Transferred from my talk page:
- Regarding the History section of electoral districts, what I wrote came from an easy template that I just copy&pasted. Before you create too much work for yourself, there are several other issues that need to be addressed, aside from formatting. As will be discussed here, my source was this which does not directly give me the ridings used to create the new riding, nor the new ridings formed from the dissolution of an old riding. The top and bottom list of ridings appear to be this but are in fact the ridings that have contributed population or land area to this riding during any representation order throughout its history (ie. not just the first and last orders). Does that make sense? Here is an example: tell me what electoral districts this riding, Kootenay—Columbia, was created from using this referenced page here.
- The other problem is that I only had a copy of the 2003 Representation Order to work from. As you can see not all ridings are created equally. Some are created from 90% of former riding X and 10% of riding Y. Others are 50/50. Yet the are all listed as equals in my History sections. Before 2003 the proportions are a mystery. (User:maclean25)
Are you sure that the top and bottom lists refer to all ridings that contributed to/took from the riding during its history? The parliamentary website does not say this explicitly. At the same time, it does not explicitly say that they refer only to those ridings that contributed to/took from at the time of the riding's creation and dissolution either, so my assumption is not supported any more than the contrary one is. If your new assumption is correct, we will have to find some wording to reflect that, but let's make sure that this is the case before we start making changes. Ground Zero | t 16:37, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
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- Your right, it does not explicitly say why those ridings are listed at the top and bottom. As you can see from the Kootenay—Columbia history or Skeena—Bulkley Valley history, it took be a couple of weeks to piece together the pattern. Note: all ridings listed border or partially encompass the subject riding, years listed (mostly) match the creation/abolishment dates, and the ridings created from the 2003 Representation Order match this theory (ie. Abbotsford Library entry matches 2003 Rep Order, as does Burnaby—New Westminster.) So the ridings created in 2003 can be proven correct using the 2003 Representation Order link above. A similar 1996 sheet can prove those created in the 1996 Representation Order. --maclean25 19:14, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
- I see here that St. Paul's has a riding at the top listed that did not exist until after the district was created. I think that is definative proof that the districts at the top are districts that ceded territory at any time during the life of the district. - Jord 01:03, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
