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1 Events
- 1.1 2010 Formula One season
- 1.2 Summer of Sonic
  - 1.2.1 August 20

[edit] Events

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The result was delete. Nandesuka 23:46, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2010 Formula One season

Wikipedia isn't a crystal ball..while the 2010 season will almost certainly happen, nothing can be said about it that isn't wild speculation/original research GrahameS 14:56, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Delete. As the 2028 U.S. presidential election and 2032 Summer Olympics are not considered appropriate article topics because nothing can be said about them that is verifiable and not original research (see "crystal ball" link above) is direct criteria why such articles should not be written this far in advance, so to does this criterion hold for a racing season four years from now. --CPAScott 15:56, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Delete as crystal balling. It can be recreated in a couple years. BoojiBoy 20:38, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Delete, Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. We don't have similar articles for Nextel Cup or the Indy Racing League. Re-create in 2008 or so. --Coredesat talk. ^_^ 22:16, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Delete as per Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_crystal_ball, its a bit too early to forecast the 2010 season, especially considering how much the FIA likes to change up things.-- danntm ^T _C 00:29, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Keep if the Bridgestone fact in the article is true, otherwise delete. The Bridgestone fact excludes it from the crystal ball criterion. -- Koffieyahoo 02:09, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Weak keep. Probably there is nothing to tell about the 2028 presidential election and 2032 Olympics, but in F1 there are already discussion for next years (long term contracts). So if there are interesting news about future season, let keep it. But I think we need some experts to give opinion (or to add relevant content to article). Cate 14:51, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Weak Delete - The tire fact is true, but is on the 2008 site, since the agreement starts in that year. The 2009 article exists, but with good reason as the Formula One Management has made announcements about 2009. I think that until they make news specific to 2010 (which could be next summer?) we probably don't need this one yet. --Brian G (Talk) 23:40, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Comment we have 2024 Summer Olympics, is F1 not doing anything 4 years ahead while the olympics are doing it 18 years ahead? The issue of deleting is not that important, because we will have this article sometime (assuming that F1, WP, the earth still exist); but those who believe that AfD's have precedent value can hang on to this one and speedy the recreation of the article for all eternity. Carlossuarez46 06:45, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Delete Unlike nearer F1 years or other future sporting events there just isn't much to say about this one yet - as evidenced by the lack of content. I can't remember any announcements relating to 2010 having come out yet. If anyone's got something solid then fine, but I don't think there will be for a little while yet. --4u1e 07:06, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Keep. Besides the Bridgestone fact, article could include Grands Prix, teams and drivers that have contracts that go as far as 2010 and are thus semi-confirmed. The new engine development freeze was supposed to last until the end of the 2010 season, but it was changed to 2007-2009. This shows that there are rule changes made by FIA that go as far as 2010, and these can be published at any time. The article is not crystal balling and might prove useful. Prolog 00:42, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Oh good lord. Get rid of it. The humanity! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.180.24.50 (talk • contribs).

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The result was DELETE. Herostratus 04:02, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Summer of Sonic

Placed on CSD, CSD was contested. Article has been deleted once before. While having Masahiro Kumono, Shun Nakamura, and Richard Jacques comment on the event is very impressive, it's also unverifiable because the only interview sources are the Summer of Sonic website itself, and it does not constitute a reliable source. There needs to be reliable sources about the event to make it pass WP:WEB. ColourBurst 22:03, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

The only other website (that I know of so far) is http://news.sonicstadium.org/story/190/ and a forum topic http://boards.ign.com/sonic_the_hedgehog/b5224/123339129/p1/ UnDeRsCoRe 22:17, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Comment. Please read reliable sources. Sonic News cannot be considered "independent" as it is part of the TSS network, the host of Summer of Sonic. IGN forum posts are also wholly unverifiable because anybody can post. ColourBurst 22:52, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, there is this. http://www.sonic-cult.org/newsx/fullnews.php?id=100 I don't know if it's reliable... http://sonichq.mobiusforum.net/newsite/ it has a small thing saying to visit it. I still can't find websites that are classified as "reliable" such as IGN or Gamespot, or even SEGA etc. UnDeRsCoRe 23:28, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

This is pretty recent; shouldn't we give someone out there time to write something on it? Anyway, Jun Senoue, an muscian who works at Sonic Team, has something about it on his site. Besides, Sega recognizes it as a significant event and gave permission for Sonic Stadium to use the "15th anniversary logo" (which is usually only granted to sites like IGN). Also, interviews with Sonic Team staff were placed on SoS rather than their usual place at Sonic Channel. This is a big event, much more than Hedgehog Heaven. (I think you should know that "no evidence of notability, therefore not notable" is denying the antecedent and an irrelevant conclusion. Know the logic behind your own policy, for goodness sakes.) --DavidHOzAu 02:04, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Delete per nom. You don't wait for someone else to write about an item to justify its existence here. It needs sufficient outside source first. Wryspy 07:10, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Keep- It is clearly a notable event! It has, as stated above, been recognized by Sega (of Europe, to specify.) It was even handed prizes, such as signed copies of Sonic Advance, and Adventure 2! It is recognized as a large fan event. And official event if count Sega's participation in it. And besides, why would Masahiro Kumono, Shun Nakamura, Richard Jacques, and Jun Senoue allow an interview with them if they do not recognize this event. UnDeRsCoRe 20:00, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] August 20

I don't know what happened here. The article didn't have an AFD tag on it, this AfD was never closed. I'm recreating the AfD and relisting. This site is non-notable, as proven by the enormous list of nn handles of forum contributors. User:Zoe|(talk) 22:26, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Delete per nom. Not notable, possible forumcruft, and possible advertising. Alexa Count is 827,456. --real _decimic 04:43, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Delete per nom. Wryspy 07:09, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been added to the list of CVG deletions. RandyWang (^chat/_patch) 12:02, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Delete per nom, not notable. Listing forum contributors doesn't really inspire confidence. RandyWang (^chat/_patch) 12:21, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Delete- per nom.--Peephole 13:16, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Comment - Any reason for the 2 same AFD notices on the page? --real _decimic 20:03, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Keep- It is clearly a notable event! It has, as stated above, been recognized by Sega (of Europe, to specify.) It was even handed prizes, such as signed copies of Sonic Advance, and Adventure 2! It is recognized as a large fan event. And official event if count Sega's participation in it. And besides, why would Masahiro Kumono, Shun Nakamura, Richard Jacques, and Jun Senoue allow an interview with them if they do not recognize this event. UnDeRsCoRe 20:07, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Delete, no reliable sources. If it's deleted, be sure to remove the redlink from Template:SonicFeatures so as to discourage recreation by a well-meaning third party. -Hit bull, win steak^(Moo!) 12:57, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Comment- Just because it does not have an official source dosen't mean it isn't an event. That would be like saying that a tv show dosen't exist just because no website has talked about it. UnDeRsCoRe 16:31, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

If it doesn't have any official sources and none can be found, it doesn't meet WP:V. If it doesn't meet WP:V, we can't/won't/shouldn't keep it. -Hit bull, win steak^(Moo!) 19:40, 22 August 2006 (UTC)