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[edit] Aboriginal peoples

In addition to all the band, ethno, and historical articles in need of at least stubbing, there are a number of notable historical figures in need of articles:

  • Kwah (famous incident with not-yet-Gov. Douglas in early New Caledonia)
  • Chilliheetza (son and grandson of Chief Nicola; and I'll be writing Pelka'mulox, a named shared by Chilliheetza's grandfather, great-grandfather, and great-great-grandfather who was born c.1670 according to James Teit, one of many half-dateable pre-contact dynastic/family lines traceable in BC history if you dig around enough...
  • Colmuneetza
  • Wickanninish (Maquinna's rival; both are hereditary titles with others named the same since, each ultimately an article)
  • Nootka Whaler's Shrine - there's probably an article on The Washing of Tears by Wade Davis but this probably deserves its own article; properly the article-name here is a redirect to the Nuu-chah-nulth language name, though; it's "Nootka" here in the sense of Nootka Sound/Nootka Island, however, not directly re "Nootka" peoples)
  • Simon Gunanoot
  • Slumach
  • Allan McLean (outlaw) or Wild McLean Boys (see John Andrew Mara)
  • Kowpelst ("White Hat", chief of Spuzzum, 1858)
  • Spintlum aka David Spintlum, chief of Lytton Nlaka'pamux, 1858
  • Chief Lolo (aka "St. Paul")
  • Chief Anahim (Chilcotin War neutral, almost non-neutral), also sp.. Anaham
  • Chief Alexis (Chilcotin War neutral, almost non-neutral)
  • Sinixt language - see this, which prompted me to add these also:
  • Pentlatch language - no separate Pentlatch/Pentlatch people; there may be historical IRs/communities but they are "extinct" now.
  • Comox language - currently redirects to Comox people, which is a very short stub with language-page traits; needs to be split.
  • and any other un-split or completely unwritten language articles, plus dialects (in Comox's case there's three); even as stubs just modelled on other linguistics stubs (easy way to grab all those cats!). Some dialect articles have already emerged - Ditidaht and in Wet'suwet'en/Dakelh and Tsimshian - and there will be more. Those above are "main languages" and there's a few others out there also needing to be written; Tahltan language may be separate now, it wasn't before. The Sts'Ailes/Chehalis may consider their version of Halqemeylem a separate language, or so I've heard, but I'll check on that as I need the people name; that's their nation-name ("Beating Heart").Skookum1 08:09, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Biography

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[edit] Artists

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[edit] Actors

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[edit] Musicians

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[edit] Writers

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[edit] Politicians

  • Henry Pellew Crease - there's a middle name missing there; he's the "other" major early-era high-court judge, but there's others; only Begbie has a bio at present.Skookum1 22:47, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
  • other L-Gs:
    • Robert Randolph Bruce
    • Walter Cameron Nichol
  • Richard Clements Moody
  • There's a page linked through New Democratic Party of British Columbia which lists all NDP candidates/members as redlinks; lots need doing at least as stubs; but then again so do all the historical MPs and MLAs that aren't done (see any one of pages linked through List of British Columbia general elections.Skookum1 22:47, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
  • George Puil
  • Frederic William Howay (historian/judge/writer)

[edit] Others

  • Richard Charles Mayne (Lieut, RE) - signficant explorer and diarist
  • Harry Guillod - diarist
  • Charles Duffey (Duffy) - RE, surveyor, known as "Sapper Duffy", namesake of the Duffey Lake Road, and the first white man to travel by that route (1859 or 1858).
  • Charles Hill-Tout - diarist, ethnographer, historian
  • Reverend Lunden-Brown, aka Reverend Brown, also Lundin Brown; not sure just now but I think it's "Arthur"; and ther's also his successor as saddlebag parson, the Reverend Turner.
  • Category:Kanakas in British Columbia - the reason for this, rather than *Category:Canadians of Hawaiian descent, is it refers to a specific group and specifically a BC group; over time there'll be bio pages of various kinds; premature for now but as Mike Carney (Olympic skier) and other articles get written, it'll be a legitimate category; reason it came to mind is because of Harriet Nahanee, whose surname indicates her part-Hawaiian/Kanaka heritage and has been well-known among the Skwxwu7mesh ever since "back when". There's actually lot of others, including some actors and film-makers I think; but again, it's the historical Kanakas that are meant; unless it'sj ust better to do the Hawaiian descent category and have the BC Kanakas in there? The Kanaka article needs more BC content anyway, or a separate article from the Australasian content/context in the current one, but I don't have the time....Skookum1 08:26, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
The distinction in the two titles is that to be a Kanaka in the Canadian context, you'd be one of, or a descendant, of the 19th Century Kanakas, when "Kanaka" was the only name for them used (well, other than Sandwich Islander); even though a recent Hawaiian immigrant to Canada (and I've met some) will "scan" and identify with the term Kanaka, he's using it in the Hawaiian sense rather than in the BC sense; if there even were Kanakas in other provinces then Category:Kanakas in Canada (or from Canada) would be OK; but it's just a BC-specific thing, isn't it?Skookum1 08:32, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Viscount Milton and his buddy Cheadle, sorry detailed names later; these guys overlanded from the Prairies to BC as Overlanders, amazingly considering they were English gentry/subnobility; also great diarists, and an interesting tale.Skookum1 20:54, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Legislation and Scandal etc.

  • Restraint Budget (1983) - would go with Solidarity Crisis, Operation Solidarity, Kelowna Accord (1983) and others from that series of events
  • Carnarvon Terms - placing that here as it was a fed-prov agreement, mid-1870s, warrants a full article because of ensuant politics/events and its role as a slogan etc. Referred to in E and N Railway#Delays.
  • Liberal-Conservative Coalition, i.e. "The Coalition". This currently is a redirect to Coalition government, but I think the specific era that goes by this name, and was shaped by this partciular Coalition (and nobody can tell me they were Grits and Tories in the same way as in the UK...); the Coalition has its own colour on election and list and house tables, but the link is only to coalition, although User:WikiMart has just chaged it to a dual direct to the Grits and Tories on List of British Columbia premiers, with each of the respective words linked differently, insteaed of togehter. There were editors, I can't remember who, during the Elections Wikiproject, who in discussing the historical party-colour-templates, felt that the Coalition was not notable enough to warrant even a separate colour; I maintain it was not only kinda formal as an arrangement but also marks a distinct period in BC history; it may need to be dab'd to [[Liberal-Conservative Coalition (British Columbia) but I can't see how it can't NOT be, in the long run, an article.Skookum1 08:26, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Definitely worthy of an article all its own. Especially the more one digs into the history. Crikey, even Encyc of BC has a fairly lengthy piece on the Coalition Government here. MLA's (Alberni's Mowat for one) losing Coalition nominations and running as independents only to rejoin the coalition. It was a functional governing entity in its own right, and that becomes more clear with every read of the books or an old newspaper.--Keefer4 08:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Historical events

  • Overlanders - those who came to the Cariboo and other gold rushes in the 1860s via the Rockies Passes; Veterans of the Overlanders' parties are almost a cat in BC history bios all by thesmelves; there were very few, but many of the survivors had illustrious/high-profile careers here. Not as grisly as the Donner Party, but our version of the same idea.
  • Collins Overland Telegraph (prob. needs its corporate name for a proper title); connected article would be:
    • Telegraph Trail
  • Please see List of Royal Navy ships in the Pacific Northwest for redlinks on RN ships in need of BC-history articles. I'll be doing another list of commercial and private vessels, and of Canadian Forces equivalents I guess; the point here was all the old steamers up and down the coast and on the lakes/rivers, as well as famous fishing boats and also cruise lines etc. (I've only started the pre-Empress series of liners, and not really, because the SS Abyssinia was a precursor to the Empress of Japan, Empress of India and Empress of China but you get the idea; the Klondike-era SS Sophia disaster's next up for me, after just having finished SS Pacific. CP's coastal shipping subdivision needs its own article (the main CP article is purely corporate/global and doesn't address CP's various important roles/presence in BC's history adequately; same with Marathon and MacBlo and Cominco articles etc. - all CP spinoffs for those old of us to remember, I guess, but largely forgotten now); the Sophia and other disasters in the Alaska Panhandle are part of BC history in the same way the Air India disaster was, but also because at the time the panhandle decision hadn't come down yet and BC still claimed Skagway as its own; but also because of the passenger list, and the ownership of the vessel). Inside Passage isn't redlinked, but it needs drastic infusions of BC information; it was written by Alaskans and I only added a bit to it so far....Skookum1 00:23, 29 January 2007 (UTC) Postscript: an article on the modern cruiseline era on the Inside Passage and the cruise economy along the Coast, and cat:Cruise vessels of the Inside Passage? maybe?Skookum1 00:30, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Great Central trek - Huge national news event in 1934, 500+ loggers march en masse from Parksville to Port Alberni and on to Great Central Lake. Physically displace Port. Alb. Mayor who tries to block them. Part of massive coast-wide action. And for that matter, am I missing something or do the industries of the province and their histories of absolutely nothing anywhere here? Things like Logging in British Columbia (or maybe Forestry in British Columbia), Mining in British Columbia, Fishing in British Columbia, Farming in British Columbia or maybe The yyy industry in British Columbia or History of yyyindustry in British Columbia. I see Skookum has noted some of 'em below. A definite dearth.--Keefer4 08:31, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] General topics

The topics below are meant from a historical context, but could/would have modern contexts as well, except for historical particularities like the REs.

  • Horse racing in British Columbia
  • Prostitution in British Columbia
  • Ranching in British Columbia
  • Mining in British Columbia
  • Tourism in British Columbia
  • Logging in British Columbia
  • Fishing in British Columbia
  • Royal Engineers in British Columbia = "The Royal Engineers in British Columbia" - "History of the Royal Engineers in British Columbia" or whatever the title would be; there's a Royal Engineers article already but focussed on the extant British troop of that name; the REs are such an intrinsic part of early BC they need a separate article for their BC content.
  • Esquimalt Shipyard - or whatever its name was under Royal Navy jurisdiction; the shipyard was the biggest "megaproject" of its time and the politicking to get it into place is a whole story in itself; there was also a Royal Navy Hospital at Esquimalt which should be written up, unless it's potentially part of any Esquimalt Hospital article, or CFB Esquimalt maybe?Skookum1 22:21, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
  • List of Spanish placenames in the Pacific Northwest, including British Columbia, that is; I'll make this but noting it here so as to not forget; most items in the US already have entries; lots of ours won't because they're obscure locations, like Aristazabal Island, and sometimes they're not obviously Spanish either (Zeballos).Skookum1 01:00, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
  • North West Company - already exists, but with barely any BC info/links at all; no section on Mackenzie, Fraser, Thompson, the opening of New Caledonia and the Columbia before the HBC came wet of the mountains; it's kind of like the Oregon Country-related articles and many Canadian national-theme articles; BC just kind of gets passed over; but this in particular needs more content; I may have put "high" in the importance, as you would for the HBC or one of the Governors or major historical chiefs etc.Skookum1 08:30, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Modern Treaties et al.

Wikipedia now has a fairly thorough index of BC First Nations peoples and languages, though not all government and local community/ethno articles are written (and there's long lists needing doing...), but in trying to dig back up an unaffiliated Chilcotin band for the {{Tsilhqot'in First Nations}} template I just cooked up, I came across the Te'Mexw Treaty Association, which is the treaty alliance of Sooke, Songhees, Malahat, Beecher Bay and Nanoose First Nations that recently signed another big treaty deal like the Tsawwassen one; the political ramifications of all this I'll stay away from for now and don't have time to address them for the articles, but let's just say the Tsawwassen and Te'Mexw treaties are nothing like the treaty with the Nisga'a Lisims, which didn't shelve the issue of sovereignty, or not in quite the same way anyway. But Te'Mexw and the other pending treaties all get lots of news copy, though in Te'Mexw's case I didn't pay much attention as I'm not an Islander. What I do find interesting, but very complicated to sort out and organize, is the patchwork-quilt of different treaty groups; the Cowichan, Tsartlip, Tsawout and hmm someone else are in the same area, but not part of the deal; some may be in the treaty process, many are not; and the Nanoose speak an entirely different language (Straits Halkomelem), though somewhat interintelligible, than the Sooke or Songhees, who speak Straits Salish. So it's complicated, especially in the Interior with overlapping and often inter-ethnic tribal councils - and also bands that do not belong to tribal councils, and sometimes first nations communities that do not belong to bands (!) as well as neighbourhoods and localities within them (e.g. Xitolacw in Mt. Currie is notable enough to warrant an article). But as each modern treaty evolves, for better or worse, each should have an article; Te'Mexw is important enough to get one now, but I don't know the details (as certain Islanders in our group might know, or at least have more awareness of the local context). Documenting all of rural BC, by the way, reserve by village by town by hamlet by famous/notable cabin/ruin/ghost town, is already more thorough in Wiki than in any other single source I can think of; accretive indexing...but there's lots of detail out there, which is why this exhortation is in article requests; encouraging and recruiting Wikipedians in the rural communities who have the time and also the interest in their local history and whatever else to regularly contribute, and to expand their area's articles (in much the same way the Tsimshian, Gitxsan and lately Skwxwu7mesh pages have begun to explore individual villages and people and institutions). Likewise smalltown institutions and landmarks and people etc.Skookum1 09:04, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Locations

  • Alberni Inlet
  • Barclay Sound
  • Broken Group (islands). There is Pacific_Rim_National_Park_Reserve#Broken_Group_Islands
  • Robson Bight
  • Comox Glacier
  • Broughton Archipelago
  • French Creek, British Columbia
  • Gold Range (British Columbia) - major subrange of the Monashees; note dabline necessary to The Gold Range, which is a bar in Yellowknife.
  • I'll be posting a List of ghost towns in British Columbia, which will have all those in need of articles red-linked. I don't have time to even stub them all (upwards of 2000, ultimately, functionally somewhere below 1000), so once the list is up (prob. have to subdivide by regions, if we can ever decided what those are/how to define them), with suggested reference/source books for research listed on its talkpage, anyone looking for something to do could find this pretty interesting....Skookum1 22:54, 28 January 2007 (UTC) Category:Ghost towns in British Columbia may be a start. KenWalker | Talk 08:23, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
List of ghost towns in British Columbia has been begun; all towns listed for now are redlinked, pending articles, which most will/could have (eventually); the list includes modern towns with articles/stubs but which maybe don't cover the ghost town aspect, i.e. that there's more history could be added to any article, as likewise is always the case with photos on place/history articles (and maps).
  • Falkland
  • Westwold and other Shuswap-Kamloops-Thompson-Okanagan localities not yet at least stubbed.
  • Mahood Lake
  • Mahood Falls
  • Horsefly Lake
  • Quesnel Lake
  • Bowron Lake or Bowron Lakes, nb can be a redirect to Bowron Lake Provincial Park, but in which case that article should have all the "lake geography" (data) in it that would properly be in Bowron Lake article (as also with otherwise separate articles for each of the main ones in the chain). Lake data should include any specific fisheries or water/terrain information as "pure geography", and most park articles aren't written from that perspective. If they're a redirect from the name of a lake, maybe they should be....Skookum1 08:13, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
  • List of icefields and glaciers of the Coast Mountains
      • These are the largest temperate-latitude icefields on the planet, although there's no collective name for the group, other than being the core of the Pacific Ranges
    • Place Glacier (the only major glacier in the Lillooet Ranges/Cayoosh Range; the Joffre Icefall could probably stand its own article, though). "Tongues" off the big icecaps, like the Lord Glacier or the Bishop Glacier or Lillooet Glacier off the Lillooet Icecap (of about seven in total), are not listed here (but could be); for each article an accounting of the surrounding rivers and peaks contained/described by the icefield would be appropriate
    • Lillooet Icecap ("Lillooet Crown"); this icefield is the scene of a disappeared CPR survey party from the 1870s, the Stanley Smith expedition, who were looking for a way from the Lillooet River to the Bishop (Lieut. Palmer had earlier established that the Lillooet-Toba connection, which is possible by packtrain, was not suitable for a wagon road, and so also not for a railway). The Stanley Smith story needs an article; there's one somewhere on Bivouac that has some references; would make a good article. Mind you, so will Lieut. Palmer when someone wants to write him up...
    • Compton Neve
    • Armchair Glacier
    • Stave Glacier
    • Pitt Glacier
    • Mamquam Icefield (more or less equivalent Mount Mamquam or Mamquam Mountain or whatever it's offically named)
    • Meslilloet Icefield
    • Ipsoot Glacier (more or less equivalent to Ipsoot Mountain
    • Pemberton Icecap
    • Overseer Icefield
    • Homathko Icefield
    • Waddington Icefield (equivalent to Waddington Range)
    • Silverthrone Glacier
    • Ha-Iltzuk Icefield (maybe the same as Silverthrone, not sure?)
    • Klinaklini Icefield
    • etc northwards (only a few in the Kitimat Ranges that have names, usually range names e.g. Howson Range
    • Juneau Icefield
    • others in the Boundary Ranges
  • Boat Encampment (Boat Encampment, British Columbia but I can't see there being another one, except in a generic sense
  • Downie, British Columbia
  • Mica, British Columbia
  • Big Bend, British Columbia
  • Campement des Femmes - could be redirect/merge with Tulameen, British Columbia; this was Tulameen's old name in the days of the fur trade, not sure if there's enough on it to make an article; records are too discreet to say "why the name" but would seem to be related to aboriginal presence, perhaps regular trysts between the fur co. bros. and the local girls? (no offense meant to women here; it's just the way things were...)
  • Fort Stikine
  • Fort Taku
  • Fort Kilmaurs redir Fort Babine if it exists
  • Fort McLoughlin
  • Fort Chilcotin (may exist already; needs writeup)
  • Fort Kamloops
  • Fort Victoria (British Columbia) - NOT as a redirect to Victoria, but in its own right, w. Fort Camosun redirect. Speaking of which, Camosun and camosack (one or the other, with the remainder the redirect), which were HBC specialty items, nice Bohemian/Moravian blue glass beads. May sound cheesy and cheap, but like all company goods (blankets, kettles etc) they were of highest quality, and became - like dentalium - highly prized, and with commercial value, though not quite money. Camosun as a place was because it was a common meeting-ground to trade with the locals, which is why Fort Camosun got established, only to be quickly redesignated Fort Victoria when the need to secure a redoubt northwards of Fort Vancouver and the Columbia pre-empted its destiny and gave birth to, pretty much, the onest of colonization on Vancouver Island (because the marine fur trade definitely had not been); I think that Fort Rupert maybe was older, at least by name if not establishment; it's been a while since I read that era in detail....Skookum1 08:18, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
  • The Barrier - see Garibaldi Lake "Geohazards" section; it should be mentioned on this page but should have a main article, as there's a body of literature around it as one of BC's major geotechnical hazards (Category:Geohazards in British Columbia would have some interesting contents...) and it's tied into the Big One, the Olympics (talk about a security problem...) and any potential eruption of Mount Garibaldi or one of its sister volcanoes....NB some "range" articles have been written as primarily-volcano articles by Black Tusk and need various adjustments to make them proper "range" articles; I don't have the time, although may get at Itcha Range and Ilgachuz Range articles, although he's adjusted others (Lava Fork, now Lava Fork Volcano more appropritely - Lava Fork is a creek-name, the location of the otherwise-unnamed volcano). Anyway, The Barrier and others like Mount Breakenridge are Hope Slides waiting to happen, and there's others, some unnamed (the west face of either Boston Bar Mountain or Hells Gate Mountain is yet another one. Glacial rain-melt outflows like the Rutherford Creek-Green River devastation of a few years ago are another geohazard, though some historically have been lahars (e.g. the one that's supposed to have wiped out up to 100,000 inhabitants of the Lower Fraser Valley about 1800BP, either from Meager et al. or via Baker, I don't know the details.
  • The Chasm - Chasm Provincial Park probably exists, but a geo article on The Chasm, as a major viewpoint site, seems necessary; aerial sat photos of it are pretty neat, even though it's a minor gorge by comparison with the Fraser or Thompson Canyons or even Marble Canyon (everything has a canyon around there, from the smallest creek to the biggest river, and most have more than one canyon....); The Chasm is one of those geoforms that's actually quite insignificant but highly visible so got a lot of attention; yeah, OK, like its sign says it's an eroded lava flow; so is most of the rest of the plateau, and quite a lot of the subalpine/alpine adjoining it too...whether towards Wells Gray or the Chilcotin Ranges...the namesake of Wells Gray Park - Wellesley Gray I think - should get an article but I'll have to dig his proper name and position out; historical politician/MLA/cabinet I think...Skookum1 22:47, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
The Chasm needs dabbing to The Chasm (British Columbia) or The Chasm, British Columbia (or "Canada", whichever); The Chasm goes to some rock band.Skookum1 22:48, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Hatzic - this among many in the "Greater Mission" area but this one also importantly as one of Mission's main "suburban" areas for years and years; and also as the site of [[[Xá:ytem|Xá:ytem]], which I just wrote; there'es also Hatzic Prairie, Deroche, Durieu, McConnell Creek, and more ad nauseam, part of my older plans/intents to document all the little communities of the Fraser Valley before they're all just blips in shopping mall direction signs...Skookum1 07:49, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Organizations & Companies

  • List of Ferry Terminals in British Columbia Was adding Sturdies Bay earlier and noticed basically none (correct me if I'm wrong) of the BC Ferry terminals have articles. By jove if SkyTrain stations get their own entries so too shall ferry terminals:

Tsawwassen Ferry Terminal, Swartz Bay Ferry Terminal, Duke Point Ferry Terminal, Departure Bay Ferry Terminal, Horseshoe Bay Ferry Terminal, Bear Cove Ferry Terminal, Little River Ferry Terminal, Langdale Ferry Terminal .. many more to be compiled soon... Oh and I realize some of these communities have articles already like Swartz Bay for example, but I think they're notable in their own right, and again if SkyTrain Stations and Van area bus loops have articles... Also, the ferries themselves need articles, some have very interesting histories indeed, as I'm sure we're all aware.--Keefer4 09:11, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Victoria and Sidney Railway
  • there are a whole string of small railway articles to be written, ranging from the V&S through to lots of them across the Similkameen, Boundary and Kootenay, and a few more on the Island as well. During the 1890s-1900s there was a huge round of railway-friendly legislation and over 100 railways were chartered in order to take advantage of land grants; some actually got built, the most notable of these being the PGE and BCER, and others becoming over time amalgamated into the CPR or other railways, or abandoned. It was BC's version of the CPR grants across the Prairies; twenty miles on either side of the line the developer would get so much of the resource and land base, so there were lots of these even just proposed so as to get the land deal involved; as with other BC enterprises in that era, particlarly the stock market, it was a lot of snakeoil; but a lot of important bits of railway history and potential articles; I've noted other names throughout my readings lately, particularly in the ghost towns books by T.W. Paterson and Garnet Basque; this as a reference for other editors to dig out sometime; it doesn't look like I'm going to have the time as life is calling me away from the net for a while, except now and then (I'll be travelling and no longer sedentary)...Anyway, there's a whole range of train/railway articles begging to be written, same as with the steamboats and the shipping companies; I'll be glad to provide some references if anyone takes it on; I may get a chance to start the list of steamboats and list of ghost towns before I'm gone, though....Skookum1 08:09, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
  • British Columbia Jockey Club
  • Vancouver Rowing Club
  • Vancouver Club
  • Terminal City Club
  • University Women's Club (Vancouver) (cf. Hycroft and dab at University Women's Club)
  • Union Club (Victoria) (cf dab at Union Club).
  • Hollyburn Club
  • Arbutus Club
  • Foley, Welch & Stewart (builders of the PGE)
  • McLennan & McFeely (the Home Depot of their day).
  • Aquarian Foundation (see Brother XII)
  • Kabalarian Philosophy
  • Emissaries of the Divine Light
  • On both of the following I've left off "in British Columbia" because some were in WA/OR/ID/MT and also AB/SK/MB/ON etc of course.
    • List of North West Company forts and posts- with location (current prov), dates, chief trader/factor, which fur district (with NWC I'm not sure there were fur districts or the positions of factor etc.)
    • List of Hudson's Bay Company forts and posts - with location (current prov), dates, chief trader/factor, which fur district (with NWC I'm not sure there were fur districts or the positions of factor etc.)
  • The Communication - the HBC's name for the route of its biannual "Express" from/to Fort Vancouver <-> York Factory; "The Express (HBC) might also be a worthy article, or the same one.
  • Hudson's Bay Company Fur Brigade Trail (pre-1846)
  • Hudson's Bay Company Fur Brigade Trail (post-1846) - this is the one most of us have heard of, from Spuzzum/Alexandra up over the Cascades and back down the Anderson River a bit farther north, or alternately via the Coldwater to the Nicola. The pre-1846 route was the Columbia to Boat Encampment, or alternately via the Okanagan to New Caledonia.Skookum1 04:06, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Newspapers, Magazines and Publishers

historical and current

  • Cariboo Sentinel
  • Williams Lake Free Press
  • Bridge River-Lillooet News
  • Alaska Highway News
  • The Chinook
  • Fraser Valley Record
  • Whistler Question
  • Whistler Answer
  • Pique Magazine
  • The Columbian
  • Evergreen Press
  • Douglas & McIntyre
  • Heritage House Publishing etc.

[edit] Miscellaneous

  • Beautiful British Columbia Magazine
  • Country Life (Canadian magazine) - a publication of the Murrays (George Murrayand Ma), and Ma's pet project. There might/must be copies in VPL or UBC or the Archives to source from; also:
  • The Chinook- George Murray's erstwhile pre-Great War Vancouver newspaper.
  • Women's Institutes - not sure where to start on this; another Ma Murray effort or something she supported; helped organize and keep housewives, particularly rural housewives, sane for decades ;-)Skookum1 04:09, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Heritage House Publishing - one of several BC publishers worthy of an article, including Harbour Publishing in Sechelt; Heritage House is/was one of the biggest popular-heritage publishers in BC; Transmontanus Books, Tricouni Publishing and various others also come to mind. Heritage House was/is a subsidiary of Douglas & McIntyre Publishing.Skookum1 04:08, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
  • local newspapers & magazines; also out-of-print historical ones....Skookum1 07:54, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List Templates

  • We need new First Nations templates for "{{Kwakwaka'wakw peoples}}", "{{Nuu-chah-nulth-aht peoples}}", {{South Island and Georgia Strait Salishan peoples}}" (NB usage could be Salish v. Salishan peoples, OldManRivers please advise), "{{Lower Fraser River Salishan peoples}}" (so as to be able to include Musqueams, Katzie, Kway-quit-lams, and Chehalis/Sts'Ailes, none of which are in the Sto:lo Nation - maybe {{Fraser Valley Salishan peoples}}?) - "{{Nlaka'pamux peoples"}}, "{{Secwepemc peoples}}", {{St'at'imc peoples}}, "{{Tsilhqot'in peoples}}" etc. (see notes on talk page)Skookum1 23:52, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Peoples seem right. As for Salish, I'd go with Coast Salishan, but if you do Salishan, it would include most of the others. But do Coast Salish, or Coast Salishan, and that will include all the US American nations as well. Although, not all the ethno-culture pages are made it, it will give a scope of what is needed. For modern political affiliations, use what ever they choose. But I don't think we should go by geographic region. Use their traditional names as much as possible. So in the case of "Fraser River Salishan People", use Sto;lo, but add the rest into the whole over-reaching article on "Coast Salish" catagory. OldManRivers 21:07, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Well, because the "peoples" articles aren't all yet written, not at the micro scale, I created "Indian Act government templates" to go with the First Nations governments pages. The first done, finished just now, is {{Kwakwaka'wakw First Nations}} and I'll do others for {{Nuu-chah-nulth-aht First Nations}}. Still not sure what to do about the Salish peoples; as Island can't really be separated from Mainland, and the three Halkomelem dialects have a certain symmetry, but don't include everyone (including OldManRivers' Skwxwu7mesh) and Sto:lo doesn't include the Kwantlens, Katzies, Whonnocks and others (who are still, nonetheless, "people of the river" - "sto:lo" btw means "the river" only; or rather specifically the Fraser itself, not other rivers. Tricky because Sto:lo is usually taken to be ethnographic group; but it doesn't as a designation include all in the group; kind of like Pacheedaht vs. Nuu-chah-nulth-aht....whatever; templates are quick to make; posting this notice here, which can be migrated to the talk page here I guess, asking for a look-see to see if I've missed any First Nations in the Kwakwaka'wakw template, and in others to follow later on...Skookum1 06:12, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
I just added {{Kwakwaka'wakw peoples}} as an experiment; the Danaxdaxw and Awataetla, now in the same band council, were at one time enemies I know, so there's an example where the ethno article diverges from the government/IA one, and historical realities from current ones. Seems to work, and can address vanished villages/peoples, as also in Nuu-chah-nulth and Salish territories. Pondering "Northern Straits Salish", from Chemainus/Nanoose on up (Penelakut?) and including Musqueam and Squamish and Sechelt (sorry, English names just now...) and I guess Tsawwassen; or Musqueam and Tsawwassen would go ih the Halkomelem-speaking peoples template, which I haven't figured out what to call ("Cowichan" and "Sto:lo" doesn't include everybody); "Southern Straits Salish" has linguistic associations with exclude Musqueam and the Cowichan peoples, who are Halkomelem-speakers; gonna be a tangled one to sort out and I don't think Vancouver Island vs. the Mainland will work entirely; maybe that's the way to go, I'll give it some thought though {{Coast Salish First Nations in Vancouver Island and the Gulf of Georgia}} seems pretty sweeping and might foot the bill for everything other than upriver from Musqueam and Tsawwassen - but {{Sto:lo First Nations and other Fraser River Salish First Nations}} seems a bit unwieldy, ..... ethno version would be {{tl:Coast Salish peoples of Vancouver Island and the Gulf of Georgia}} (hmm, doesn't really include Sookes and other Juan de Fuca groups, does it? Hmmmm...) In the ethno nongov versions of templates, there can be crossborder content like the Squamish relationship with the Nooksack or the Makah with the Nuu-chah-nulth or Clallam with Songhees/Tsouke. More to think about; time for a smoke.....(no scolding!).Skookum1 06:31, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Just created {{First Nations of the Strait of Georgia and Southern Vancouver Island}} which includes Mainland Salish other than Sto:lo/Kwantlen etc; used "Strait of Georgia" because of Wiki article-title of that name; pref. "Gulf of Georgia" myself but that's a harder definition and no article on it (yet).Skookum1 18:43, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Just realized that should have properly been {{Salishan First Nations of the Strait of Georgia and Southern Vancouver Island}} or {{Salish First Nations of the Strait of Georgia and Southern Vancouver Island}} or else the Campbell River/Cape Mudge Kwakwaka'wakw bands should be included; and starting to think that "gulf of georgia" is preferable to "strait of georgia". Thoughts?18:47, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
So how's {{Salishan First Nations of the Gulf of Georgia and Southern Vancouver Island}} - I wish I didn't have to add that "southern Vancouver Island" but the Sooke and Esquimalt and Songhees are definitely not Gulf of Georgia; the option here is to leave off "Salishan" and include the Campbell River Kwakwaka'wakw in the template.Skookum1 04:14, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Just to note/remind I'd already created {{First Nations of the Strait of Georgia and Southern Vancouver Island}} but I'm not happy with the title because of its implicit inclusion of Kwakwaka'wakw, and also the Strait/Gulf thing. Further note, the ethno template here would be either {{Gulf of Georgia and Southern Vancouver Island peoples}} or {{Salishan peoples of the Gulf of Georgia and Vancouver Island}}.Skookum1 04:17, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Problem with that is that the Kwayquitlams, Musqueam, Katzies and Chehalis aren't Sto:lo, that's why I resorted to the more anthropological-sounding Fraser River Salish. As it is there's spill-over onto the US side with the Okanagan and Ktunaxa templates (and those are for band councils, not just ethnic groups, although in that case they're synonymous); realistically the Nooksack should be in the same table as the Skwxwumesh and Shishalh, no? And the Lummmis with the Tsawwassen and Musqueam and, I think, the Tsartlip and Tsawout. But even if the int'l boundary's arbitrary division of the region weren't there (see Talk:Salish Sea), there's still this nomenclature problem - "Coast Salish nations of Southern Vancouver Island" is too unwieldy; "Salish Nations of South Island" is AFAIK a tribal council (and there is no unified tribal council for any of this region...). BTW it did occur to me last night that "Nations" instead of "peoples" might be best on the names of these templates, as the links should/would be to the band councils and t.c.s; this in terms of mirroring the equivalent templates for towns, villages and cities, under the assumption that pending a one-day dissolution of the Indian Act governments and their replacement by post-treaty governments, the organizational layout, and probably the English names, would remain the same, as those of the IA governments...if "peoples" is used in the titles of the templates, then the titles/articles should link to the non-government ethno articles....Skookum1 18:38, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Decided to retitle the government templates thus: {{Nlaka'pamux First Nations governments}} instead of {{Nlaka'pamux First Nations}} in order to clarify the ambiguities/confusion/dualities involved. If {{Nlaka'pamux First Nations band governments}} would be better please advise after I make this first one; I'll hold off; "government" seems pretty much straightforward, even though it's not truly indigenous governments (i.e. non-Indian Act-constituted ones) that are meant. For now I'm just changing the text of the title for the template named {{Nlaka'pamux First Nations}}, the others will remain redlinked here until a final preferred form for such titles could be, so all the rest can be made without having to be changed later.Skookum1 00:04, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category sorting/adding

Just out of curiousity, and can't remember how I got there, I was at Canadians of Scottish descent, oh yeah from being at Canadians of English descent which someone wants to rename back to English Canadian....anyway, decided in honour of St. Pat, and to make sure it was there because for some reason it didn't turn up on first search, but it turned out to be a category name, so at went to Category:Canadians of Irish descent and found a Category:Canadians of Anglo-Irish descent vs Category:Canadians of Ulster-Scots descent, and there is difference, although usage/potential synonymy varies. Why this is relevant to the BC project and to article requests is that a lot of early politicians and authority figures and settlers of all kinds here were Anglo-Irish, from Chartres Brew down to, I believe, John Hart and since. Scots are more prominent in politics elsewhere, it seems; here it was the Anglo-Irish for some reason, more often than not (A.C. Elliott, McBride I think); what piqued my mind here was the Canadians of English descent page's "List of Notable Canadians of Anglo-Irish descent" really only had Douglas and Gordo on it, other than a few others; got me thinking about Brew and Elliott and so many more that I know of; but we have a settlement history than the rest of Canada anyway; I didn't even try to add BC sections ot the Canadians of Scottish descent article (there's of course ON and QC sections, and Maritime Celtic history); but simply put, it caught my eye that the Category:Canadians of Irish descent didn't have the roster of names it could have from BC; Elliott and Brew certainly, Vernon I think and many others of note and who already have articles, methinks. Just, whenever someone's writing or editing a bio, give some thought to categories like this that may be missing; not that y'all don't already, but this one caught my eye because I'm familiar with its subject matter....also quite often things in the Canadians of ethnic descent top-level category, i.e. anywhere in its lower levels, there's articles that are in main cats and also in subcats; seems to be a lot of trimming needing doing there, too....Skookum1 07:38, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Gasp! - I just dug into that category, which has a series of subcategories, finally Category:Anglo-Irish migrants to pre-Confederation Canada, where Elliott, Vernon, Brew et al. would go....except for one thing; "pre-Confederation Canada" only means, in its own temporal context, from the Lakes to the Gulf; so shouldn't "our" category be Category:Anglo-Irish migrants to pre-Confederation British Columbia? - and not just because of the 1871 vs 1867 thing - It's also a different element of them that were here than other Anglo-Irish, as it was with everyone here (harder to get to, brought a certain kind and class of individual etc, but that's a longer discussion). Back to the basic point - obscure categories probably needed to be added in a lot of places. BTW is it "legal" for us to consider making a talkpage template for all the BC-related categories so we can index them all somewhere; I know that's not the point of the main BC template, but I'm just thinking of a tool that would be accessible only from the project pages; or do some of those links in the portal at the top of the project page do that? i.e. a central place where you can view all pages with the project template; the idea is to be able to see all the categories; unless there's a way to get a bot to make a list that would be an "active object" updating itself, on the talkpage. Wish I understood code, I always have such neat ideas ;-0 (or so they seem at the time).Skookum1 07:55, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
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