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[edit] Requests for NPOV help. Specific articles.

Please add the article name to the bottom of the list in this section. If you want to, you can also leave a comment about the kind of help needed. Also, please add your signature/time stamp. Please try not to be inflammatory in your comments.

[edit] Members. Project now open to everybody.

As of December 29, 2006 this previously dead project is now reopened, and anybody can join. Please add your user name and comments to the bottom of the list below. Use this format:

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  1. Timeshifter (talk • contribs) - I am also a member of Wikipedia:WikiProject Israel, Wikipedia:WikiProject Palestine, and Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias. I wholeheartedly support WP:NPOV. All these projects need some non-POV-pushing editors to put a stop to the rampant POV-pushing going on from all sides. It is seriously slowing down the addition of good sourced info to many articles. And many editors are being discouraged from editing. We need to recruit some NPOV admins, too, because dispute resolution and honest discussion has ground to a crawl on many pages. There are many unresolved slow-motion edit wars going on that need admins to step in and do some refereeing and blocking.

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[edit] Old Project sections are found below

Old project info is moved from the top of the page to the sections below. Many sections have been inactive a long time. Please do not use the old non-standard talk pages linked below. Please use the regular talk page to avoid confusion.

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[edit] Consensus

The important requirements for this project are 1. NPOV 2. Organization (complete tables, headers, and links) 3. Verbose explanation of changes (edit comments, and on talk pages) 4. Deference to community consensus.

[edit] Context related articles

With all fields of study, there are greater contexts above even the enormous contexts, and the Arab-Israeli conflicts cannot truly be discussed without including the greater influence of Western and U.S. power —this is often the most controversial aspect of discussing the Middle-East peace process.

  • US influence/role in Middle east conflict

[edit] Project Members

List of Invitees: The following have been individually asked to participate here in light of their demonstrated interest and dedication to editing pages related to the Arab-Israeli conflict that are subject to edit wars or their help in calming edit wars in progress:

February 13, 2004

  • User:Adam Carr (Talk) I am happy to join a discussion group, but I certainly don't agree that the "greater influence of Western and US power" has got anything to do with this topic and if that is the ideological starting point then I won't be participating. I am not willing to agree to refrain from editing any article. Adam 14:12, 13 Feb 2004 (UTC)
  • LittleDan (Talk)
  • MyRedDice ( Talk) Refuse, see Talk
  • RK (Talk)
  • Slrubenstein (Talk)
  • User:Uriber (Talk)

February 12, 2004

February 11, 2004

[edit] To ask list

[edit] Third holiest site in Islam AfD debate

I've nominated this article for deletion Third_holiest_site_in_Islam, and would appreciate any comments on the matter.--Amerique 08:03, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

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I don't think this site above, should be deleted. There is nothing wrong with it. -NC

[edit] Pages related to Israel or Palestine

list of articles related to the conflict - please help sorting, so we can make something like a general table of contents out of it.

[edit] Suggestions

  • A proposal for guidelines for the depiction of this conflict is here.
  • general remarks of Elian
  • Policy for adding links
  • Discussion on terminology:
    • What violent attack can be referred to as terrorism.
      • I suggest deprecating "terrorism" and "terrorists" in favour of "militancy" and "militants". See Definitions of terrorism (esp. Jason Burke comment) for rationale. It can then just be noted that some of these organisations are stated to be terrorist organisations by certain people, without taking a stance on their status. (Thus "Hamas is a militant organisation dedicated to XYZ. It has claimed credit for ABC and is defined as a terorist organisation by PQR". But equally, "Israeli militants bombed XYZ". We do not have to choose which if either are labelled "terrorists" in Wikipedia) FT2 09:18, Jan 26, 2005 (UTC) I disagree. Refusing to label an act of terrorism that is admittedly an act indiscriminately aimed at killing people for a political purpose as terrorism is evidence of bias in and of itself. "Freedom fighters" may target military facilities or military personel but to commit random acts of murder because one feels "occupied" is still murder and because it is done for a political purpose it is terrorism. Acts done in response with some attempt to target persons guilty of terrorism or to defend against terrorist attacks should not be labled terrorism. Those acts may
    • What organization can be defined as terrorist groups (reference: US State department list of terror organizations).
    • West Bank\Gaza Strip or occupied territories or the disputed territories.
      • In my opinion - the WB\GS is the most NPOV and the least controversial. MathKnight 12:19, 21 Feb 2004 (UTC)
      • Is there a place called "Palestine"?

[edit] Information sources

[edit] /Project articles

List of articles, where someone feels they need to be adjusted towards a more neutral presentation. Everybody is welcome to help in neutralizing articles, to add items to the list and to issue critics!

[edit] Important issues not yet treated:

  • What method can Wikipedia employ to organize the extraordenary proliferation and chaos of articles on this subject?
    • A series of higher level catagories to organize subjects?
      • History
      • Theory
      •  ???
      • Juxtaposed points. Split page format?
  • Complete Chronicle of crimes/terrorist attacks.?
    • is it encycolpedic to compile a database for all incidents of ethnic violence.
  • Roll of natural resources
    • Sea Ports
    • Realestate
    • Role of the water question in the conflict.
  • Refusal to serve in the Israeli military - Prison sentences for Israelis who refuse to do military service in the "occupied" territories, including Netanyahu's nephew:
  • locations/population/history of Israeli settlements in the occupied territories.
  • houses/buildings demolished by Israeli forces.

[edit] Welcome "Israel-stub"

Hi everyone, welcome the new {{Israel-stub}} (Template:Israel-stub). IZAK 13:22, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)

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