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[edit] Utah map images
Can you provide sources for the images Image:UTAH SR-95.png, Image:UTAH SR-276.png and Image:UTAH SR-274.png? Zach (Sound Off) 04:42, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] PD-UTGov
All images marked with Template:PD-UTGov have been marked for speedy deletion, and the template is under debate for deletion at WP:TFD. The template indicated a license which did not permit commercial use, and images which cannot be used commercially are not allowed to be uploaded after May, 2005. Please reference the third pillar (Wikipedia:Five pillars, and thanks for contributing. --Mm35173 20:10, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Re: Images from UDOT
They were all tagged with the (now-deleted) {{Template:PD-UTGov}} which states that the relevant State authority only licenses them very restrictively. Specifically, as this TfD debate says, they are only available with "no modification allowed, [for] personal or informational use only". All of those restrictions make it not possible to retain the images, but particularly the personal use only one: the GFDL licenses all content to anyone for any reason, including commercial purposes while the license for these images does not allow commercial use. Jimbo Wales has said [1] that we are to remove any such images on sight. You were notified of the impending deletion of both the template and the images on the page you request: User talk:WikiDon/Imagearchive, although rather recently.
If you can find GFDL compatible images to replace them, that'd be fine. -Splashtalk 00:38, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
- No. You misunderstand. The Wikimedia Foundation does not and has not ever charged for the use of any of its content. It is given away completely for free to anyone who wants it. See answers.com for example, which mirrors the English Wikipedia along with many many other sites that do so — without having to pay the Foundation or Jimbo anything at all. But, the terms of the GFDL do allow commercial use. So those who take our content could decide to use it to make money and such use, which is allowed, would be incompatible with the terms of non-commercial use only licenses. That's all. -Splashtalk 01:08, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Image:UTAH SR-24.PNG
What is the source of this image? --SPUI (talk) 10:24, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
- Did you read the statement? It says "if the documents are not modified in any respect", which is decidedly non-free. --SPUI (talk) 10:45, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
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- Please read derivative work. --SPUI (talk) 11:01, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
Hey congratulations on the release, I admire your tenacity. I don't know how the image should be tagged, you probably can't release it into the GFDL since there are still restrictions on its use. Should probably wait until the letter gets to Wiki and see what the people who really know this stuff say. Looking at the spelling and grammar in the release I think the state of Utah (in which I live) needs to upgrade its personnel a little. Bob Palin 20:56, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
- I see they got deleted again, to tell you the truth that's what I expected to happen but it was worth a try. Maps are difficult, we are going to have to draw our own! Bob Palin 03:21, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Non-free images
Why did you delete Image:UTAH SR-12.PNG and Image:UTAH SR-24.PNG? These are MAPS not photos, maps need to be modified to fit the specific area talked about. I ask Jimbo if I got a letter for copyright release, we could use it. What is the deal? I didn't think that I had it tagged right and ask for help with the right tag???? So if we have a letter of release we still can't use it? WikiDon 03:46, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
- I'm afraid we can only use them if they're released under the GFDL or a similar free licence. Images only wikipedia is allowed to use are speedy deletion candidates, as they severely hamper the free redistributability of the encyclopaedia we're making. --fvw* 03:51, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
The State of Utah is giving "me" the right to modify the image, I then create the new image that I want, and to that image "I" give it the GFDL tag for free distribution. WikiDon
- It doesn't work that way. You're creating a derived work from their copyrighted material, so the redistribution and copying of the end result is limited both by how you and how the state of utah allow it, i.e. it's more restricted or at the very least just as restricted. --fvw* 03:59, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
So what can I do? WikiDon
- You can either ask them to licence it under the GFDL or creative commons (once you explain what and why you'd be surprised how many people say yes), find a different source for a similar map that will licence it under an acceptable licence, or you can make your own (you won't be able to make a map anywhere near as nice unless you're an experienced cartographer, but maybe you can make something that will get the gist of the matter across). If none of that works, the article is just going to have to survive without a map for a while. --fvw* 04:32, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
- Where do I find the text for "GFDL" or "creative commons" that would be appropriate to send them? WikiDon
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- It's linked off the GFDL article, but Wikipedia:Boilerplate request for permission might be the best place to get you started. Good luck! --fvw* 04:45, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] ACD photos
You've got some cute ACD photos on your user page & talk pg for ACD, but either missing license tags or one has a tag that doesn't seem to exist. Any chance you could add the appropriate GFDL or whatever? Thanks. Helps me to keep the wp dog photo list up to date. Elf | Talk 05:02, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
- WP isn't allowing anyone to upload (easily, anyway) photos with that kind of tag (for use on WP but nowhere else) any more. However, for use on one's user page, I'm guessing that such a tag would be commonly used. For the moment, I'd put maybe {{Copyrighted}} but add a clear statement that the image is for use only on your user page and that might be OK. I'm going to ask this question at Wikipedia_talk:Image_copyright_tags#Images_for_use_only_on_user_pages_or_talk_pages. Elf | Talk 21:39, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Images for user pages only
I *think* you were the one who asked me about a month ago about copyrighted photos that maybe you'd want to have on your user page but not release for general use (or at least that I interpreted that way). There now appears to be a copyright tag for that; see this new tag. Elf | Talk 22:38, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Image Tagging Image:Carlingford Lough.PNG
Thanks for uploading Image:Carlingford Lough.PNG. I notice the image page currently doesn't specify who created the image, so the copyright status is therefore unclear. If you have not created the image yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the image on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the image yourself then you should also specify where you found it, ie in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page.
If the image also doesn't have a copyright tag then you must also add one. If you created/took the picture then you can use {{gfdl}} to release it under the GFDL. If you can claim fair use use {{fairuse}}.) See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.
If you have uploaded other images, please check that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of image pages you have edited by going to "Your contributions" from your user page and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thanks so much. Thue | talk 21:21, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
