Talk:Wikiversity

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This page was previously nominated for deletion. Please see prior discussions before considering re-nomination: keep, 30 March 2007, see discussion. no consensus, 14 Jun 2005, see discussion. delete, 18 Oct 2004, see discussion.

For the June 2005 deletion debate on this article, see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Wikiversity2. -- Jonel | Speak 06:35, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Notice 2 Wikiversity's existence 3 the point 4 Vague 5 Wikiversity needs translators

[edit] Notice

Wikiversity has been nominated for deletion from Wikibooks. For the deletion discussion see b:Wikibooks:Votes for deletion/Wikiversity. Please comment on the deletion there, not here. Uncle G 14:01:57, 2005-08-20 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiversity's existence

12 days have been gone and there are more votes for it to exist than there are for it not to exist. What's the problem as of this moment?? Georgia guy 20:39, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

According to this page there was to be a Wikimedia board of directors meeting today with wikiversity on the agenda. A suggested timetable for steps in making wikiversity an independent Wikimedia project is here. --JWSchmidt 22:53, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] the point

is it that you can dump your cranky theories on Wikiversity first, and then quote yourself as a published source on Wikipedia? Dark times ahead, then. Wikiversity will crawl with otherwise unpublished kooks. dab (ᛏ) 15:53, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

No. The Wikiversity proposal does not include any system for publishing original research. In fact, Wikiversity might be able to provide an organized system for teaching Wikipedia editors how to find good sources and cite them in Wikipedia articles. I suspect that many Wikipedia editors have no experience in doing this. Any Wikipedia editor who tried to add material without providing good sources could be "sent to school" at Wikiversity. --JWSchmidt 16:04, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

The original Wikiversity proposal said that Wikiversity should, "test the limits of the wiki model both for developing electronic learning resources as well as for teaching and for conducting research and publishing results (within a policy framework developed by the community)". In the current version of the Wikiversity proposal, "conducting research and publishing results" remains as part of the stated mission of Wikiversity. I think the clear intention of the proposal is that Wikiversity support and fosters scholarly “secondary research” (literature reviews). However, the current proposal also says, "Whether or not Wikiversity will host original research or secondary research is still the subject of debate." The comment by User:Dbachmann (above) expressed a very real concern: if Wikiversity allows original research then special effort will have to be made to deal with crank theories and the problem of "original research spam". I think it is safe to say that original research will only exist within Wikiversity if a policy framework can be developed by the community to deal with the potential problems of original research. Everyone who is interested in Wikiversity should read the current proposal and contribute to discussion of these issues. --JWSchmidt 03:27, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vague

The article really doesn't give much of a clue what this is. "…free, open learning environment and research community…" is so vague as to be vacuous. - Jmabel | Talk 15:51, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I came here to see what Wikiversity is, and I was refracted into a mindless jingoism. What is this? --208.3.137.68 21:41, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

I agree, what is it specifically? What is the difference between it and Wikibooks? Dessydes 08:09, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

It's a place for 1) Learning materials (that are not textbooks) and 2) Learning communities (around those materials). Please see the proposal on Meta (which is also on Wikiversity itself, but at least all the links work from the Meta page). Research guidelines still have to be worked out - this is one of the main reasons behind the Beta phase. Cormaggio ^{is learning} 13:25, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiversity needs translators

Wikiversity is establishing versions in several languages and is going to be holding multi-language discussions in order to develop policies, particularly for research. Wikiversity needs participants who can translate documents from one language into another language. Thanks for your help! --JWSchmidt 22:57, 3 September 2006 (UTC)