Category talk:Wikipedia GUS userboxes

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[edit] Templates ready for deletion

Please delete the templates listed below as G6 (housekeeping) speedy deletions. An archive of templates deleted after being listed on this page can be found here.

Please do not list templates on this area that have incoming transclusions from user pages!
Use What Links Here first.

[edit] Double redirects - Ists to Isms - Don't do it

I don't necessarily consider it to be a good idea to replace every "What links here" with a userfied box. In many of the cases, double redirects were created from a "This user is a bla bla blaist," to a "This user is interested in bla bla blaism." I purposefully separated many of these messes when I moved religion userboxes. I'm not interested in someone throwing them back together again. I believe it would be better to just delete the page in such cases and let the Ists decide for themselves what they want to do about it. Rfrisbietalk 04:17, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Are there any specific examples of this that are in the category now? AFAIK, this cat is only populated from use of {{User GUS UBX to}}. Anyone transluding these pages has a "broken" box on their user page. — xaosflux Talk 04:40, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
I just updated the cat "direction" to specify that one should only look for transclusions. — xaosflux Talk 04:40, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Those "double redirects" (to userspace) aren't broken because they stop at the soft redirect. When I looked at some of them, I noticed someone was starting to put {{User GUS UBX to}} on the "Ist" pages, which misrepresents what happened. Because of this, I redirected them to matching pages in userspace, when I could find one. The following still have "orphaned" double redirects: Template:User dualism, Template:User existentialism, Template:User materialism, Template:User moral realism. I don't support those "Ist" userpages being bypassed to "Ism" boxes. Maybe someone (not me) will creat a new box, maybe not. I say just delete such pages when the "Ism" redirects are bypassed.

Also, what do you think should be done with the simple-linked (non-transcluded) pages? I leave them alone. In that case, when should the template page be deleted? Rfrisbietalk 15:54, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Good question, so far I've only been deleting them if the inbound links are from old pages, like closed xfd's / archived talk pages. Replacing them will get the users out of this caegory though! — xaosflux Talk 23:21, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm wondering what should be done with the "ist" to "ism" redirects that are still around. Maybe someone else can let me know what to do. The redirects I'm talking about are: Template:User theist, Template:User theist2, Template:User deist, Template:User agnostic, Template:User agnostic2, Template:User empirical agnostic, and Template:User apatheist. Thanks! —Mira 08:58, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm guessing Ashley Y most likely knows what the original "ist" boxes were. Rfrisbietalk 11:29, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Empty redirects

Userbox since migrated to userspace under [[WP:GUS]] which now has no incomming links, and is a cross namespace redirect or a redirect to a deleted page. ([[WP:CSD#G6]] - housekeeping deletion)

There seems to be some disagreements on what to do with these pages when they're cleared of links, so I'm listing them here. Rfrisbietalk 16:42, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, there didn't used to be disagreement because I got quite a few deleted using {{db-g6}}. Oh well, it doesn't seem that speedy deletion works anymore, so I guess I have to add a bunch more to the list. —Mira 20:24, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
It seems that "CSD WP:GUS" is the new "it" [1] whatever that is. Rfrisbietalk 20:35, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
I just tried that on all of the world citizen template redirects, they were removed by User:Stifle. —Mira 20:46, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Cool (although they still look "blue" to me). I still prefer the illusion "process" is important.

Rfrisbietalk 20:52, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Erm, I didn't phrase that right. The speedy deletion tags were removed. The templates stayed. —Mira 20:55, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Now......I get it!

Rfrisbietalk 20:57, 27 July 2006 (UTC) The Cyde Patrol still seems to work best! Rfrisbietalk 20:59, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Heh, I suppose it would.

Mira 21:03, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Template:User orange ← "Spam protection filter" can't bypass. Can someone?
Redlinks above deleted as Userbox since migrated to userspace under [[WP:GUS]] which now has no incomming links, and is a cross namespace redirect or a redirect to a deleted page. ([[WP:CSD#G6]] - housekeeping deletion), blue links have incomming links. — xaosflux Talk 01:43, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I removed the transclusions for these. Some still have links, but no transcludes (at least right now).

αChimp laudare 02:59, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Template:User world has says it has two transclusions, but it actually only has one, at User:HolyRomanEmperor, but the page is protected. An admin can edit that page, and then the template should be good to go. —Mira 03:59, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

It's been unprotected. — xaosflux Talk 04:26, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Okay, that template can be safely deleted. —Mira 07:26, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Userboxes for Deletion

I've got some more templates for us (some have transclusions on protected pages): These have tranclusion(s) on protected pages: Template:User AI All clear, no transclusions: Template:User AU res Template:User Adelaide Ger Template:User Architecture Template:User AthlonXP Template:User Avoda Template:User BBC 24 Template:User BBC Four Template:User BBC One Template:User BBC Three Template:User BBC Two Template:User Balad Template:User Euthanasia Template:User FF Template:User FG Template:User Hadash Template:User Kadima Template:User Gangster Template:User Ha-Yerukim Template:User Likkud Template:User Meretz-Yachad Template:User NDRAVAW.

This sounds retarded and selfish, but please do not remove content from this post, even once the ubx's are deleted. I prefer my redlinks remain. I'll be uploading more in a few minutes. Thanks. αChimp laudare 00:45, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

More: Template:User alignment Template:User queer Template:User sufism Template:User taoism Template:User transgender Template:User wicca Template:User feminism supporter Template:User feminist Template:User feminist alternate Template:User feminist-alt

None have transcludes. αChimp laudare 00:53, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Someone set us up the bomb. — xaosflux Talk 01:05, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

More boxes. I'd do more work, but my bot is just about at the end of its 1 week trial =(.

Template:User protestantism Template:User notconfused Template:User philosophical pessimist Template:User pansexual Template:User nolabels2 Template:User no-male Template:User hinduism Template:User islam Template:User islam2 Template:User materialism Template:User methodism Template:User neopaganism Template:User Penguin Template:User Shinui Template:User Porsche "user atheism" Template:User cowbell2 Template:User DOE Silver Template:User Denver2008 Template:User HNIC Template:User Liberal Template:User quran Template:User recycling Template:User world

I'm not sure how to deal with babel boxes, but the only transclusions of these are in one: Template:User not censored Template:User gay Template:User bisexual

Bable-x template replacements are like this. — xaosflux Talk 02:10, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

This one has one transclude, but there's weird formatting on the page. I have no idea how to deal with it: Template:User fsm Template:User materialist Template:User IPU Template:User sikhism

Have fun admins. =) αChimp laudare 01:52, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Alphachimp, A number of the religion userboxes were screwed up by admins who mixed religion "ist" boxes with "interested in" religion userboxes through redirects. I deliberately separated them when I moved the interest boxes to userspace. Did you manage to keep them separated? Rfrisbietalk 02:10, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Rfrisbie, we're not dealing with a lot of hard redirects here, this category is populated via the GUS 2 template. — xaosflux Talk 02:15, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
If the hard redirect went to the soft redirect, they show up on "What links here." Hopefully, I disconnected all of them. Rfrisbietalk 02:42, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
I checked them all for transclusions, including transclusions within redirects. Am I barking up the wrong alley here? αChimp laudare 02:43, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Most of the cleanup for this deals with only items marked as (transclusion) in the what link's here page. — xaosflux Talk 02:52, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Right, that's what I did. αChimp laudare 02:53, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
I always check the meaning of double redirects. If they're different than the main redirect, I look for the matching box elsewhere. I don't just go ahead and bypass them. Rfrisbietalk 02:58, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Maybe we are not all on the same page here, this cleanup category has to do with replacing soft-redirects e.g.:
These templates {{User GUS UBX to}}
(that are IN USE on people's user pages) with the ones specificed in the {{{2}}} link (typically the end-result of a MOVE). — xaosflux Talk 03:57, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Is there a known problem with the WP:GUS'd versions of these boxes changing their use (e.g. ist->ism), if so why can't they be resolved? — xaosflux Talk 04:00, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
(edit conflict) I know exactly what that is. I created it. I also know what a double redirect is and how some admins changed the meanings of some userboxes and moved them, creating hard redirects to soft redirects with Template:User GUS UBX to. I've been working on them before this category was created. I've checked around and the hard redirects I was asking about already were removed, so I withdraw my question. I'll deal with them a different way. Rfrisbietalk 04:10, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
OK, Think I just found one, and note sure where to replace it at Template:User atheist. In these cases I'd suggest substing in the box, removing it from this category for now, and list all options in the box (see Template:User atheist for my edit). These will need to be cleaned up outside of this housekeeping semi-project. — xaosflux Talk 04:06, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:AN/I

Please see, and contribute if you would like, to the discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#German_userbox_solution. — xaosflux Talk 13:52, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Protected redirect

Please bypass (or not) & delete. Rfrisbietalk 03:20, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re-creation

Someone has re-created the previously userified and deleted Template:User Denver2008. —Mira 07:57, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

I remarked it for GUS, lets not get hung up on flag/delete/recreate wheeling on these until all of the other ones are done, there are bound to be some more dificult ones, and there is a lot to do. — xaosflux Talk 03:39, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
A double recreation, then. I'll leave the creator a message. —Mira 06:45, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
It looks like it should be okay to delete it now...he answered my message with a simple "Thank you."Mira 01:20, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Templates moved - not really

Some users have created copies of userboxes instead of moving them. They also did not change any links. In addition, I'm seeing more of the original boxes getting the "moved to" soft redirect, which isn't true, e.g., Template:User Santa → User:Ashley Y/Userbox/Santa. If this procedure takes it's course, the original box will be deleted and the edit history lost. Does anybody really care? In the grand scheme of things wiki and beyond, I don't. I just want to confirm this will be going on at an increasing rate, given the current state of the universe. Rfrisbietalk 15:06, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't really care, but if the authorship of the original template is important to note, maybe a list of users who edited the original template could be placed on the talk page of the user space one. —Mira 03:26, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
If anybody feels like doing that, it's fine with me. I doubt I'll be putting much of anything up for deletion if I didn't move the contents first. Rfrisbietalk 03:52, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moving along well

We're down to ~1800 pages left in this category to clean up (until more are added!). Unless there are templates up for deletion that need to be GUSied up rapdily, please try to work the list starting here. Thanks! — xaosflux Talk 01:57, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Don't forget, there's a lot more templates that need to be userfied than the ones listed in this category. We still have a good deal more work left for us. --Cyde Weys 02:06, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Certainly, although we of course have diferant methods for cleaning them up :) I look forward this this category being empty one day though! — xaosflux Talk
  • There are currently only 66 pages left in the cat, down from thousands and thousands! Great work everyone! — xaosflux Talk 19:27, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How far do we go?

So, now that the "test" page (pets) has been userified, how far do we take this? Where do we draw the line between what stays in template space and what goes to user space? —Mira 19:42, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Everything that doesn't help write the encyclopedia goes. The kinds of things I'm envisioning staying are things like "This user has a degree in engineering" or "This user speaks French" (the Babel boxes). There's lots of humorous userboxes that need to be taken care of, for starters (lots of them). --Cyde Weys 19:43, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Okay, what about things like "This user is interested in history"? —Mira 19:51, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Meh, worry about those later, there's still lots of stuff left that clearly needs to be taken care of. --Cyde Weys 19:54, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Okay, I still keep finding plenty of religious and political boxes that weren't listed on the gallery pages. They'll keep me busy for a while anyway. —Mira 20:02, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Of course, we've got to give the WP:GUS holders time to make their pages and bring over the boxes, if you use the gus to template after a redirect, it can give the other editors a chance to change the box themselves, or drop it; the bots are all pretty much lined up to takle this still. — xaosflux Talk 20:53, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Userboxes/Humor is gonna be a fair amount of work :-/ Maybe we should establish a deadline? That's how I took care of the Monty Python userboxes. --Cyde Weys 22:48, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

The method that seems to have caused the least screaming so far seems to be:
  1. A WP:GUS gallery holder adopts the box, and MOVES it to their User: space
  2. The {{User GUS UBX to}} template is applied (adding the template and all of its transclusion users to this category)
  3. The bots have at it
  4. We delete it
Contacting people for #1 is the first step of course, once complete there is no need to delay on step 2, if the backlog here is down, step 3 should be given the delay period to execute before skiping straight to step 4. A fortnight should be long enough to let that linger IMHO. — xaosflux Talk 12:57, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
Where the complaints using come in is if the box is simply moved, then deleted, without removing the inbound links. Using the Gus2 tempalte give time to have the bots worked, I've seen many of these gettnig deleted as "userfied" while still having inbound transclusions, thus leaving redlinks on userpages that had previously been fine. — xaosflux Talk 16:52, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
We're about to find out how well the steps work these days. I just did steps 1 & 2 on 16 boxes. Rfrisbietalk 02:10, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Regarding the monty python boxes (e.g. Template:User monty python, I think that if we would follow the steps above we can avoid making user pages with redlinks, like that one did. — xaosflux Talk 04:18, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Is anyone still working this?

Just went through and had my bot repalce a few more, random sampling shows that many of these only have 1-5 transclusinos (not worth runnign the bot setup usually). If there are any with a large ammount of transclusins, feel free to leave me a talk page note with a list. Thanks, — xaosflux Talk 04:28, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm basically done with what I plan on doing with this. Rfrisbietalk 04:43, 16 September 2006 (UTC)