Talk:Whippet

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Article Grading: The following comments were left by the quality and importance raters: (edit comments - comment history - watch comments · refresh this page) Good start, especially to the temperament section. The appearance section needs expanding, and the article needs references. Some pictures of other colours would be very nice. --Pharaoh Hound (talk) 13:22, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

There is a picture of a sleeping whippet in the article. Does anyone know who took the picture and who the whippet is? I placed a solid white whippet with red fawn ears in 2001, in VA. He has disappeared, his owner's phone number has been reassigned and no one in that town seems to know him. A photo of Allen is at http://www.geocities.com/pfyrewhippets/Allen.html I just want to know that he is in a good home. His DOB was 08/12/97. Thanks much, Judy Pfyre@PfyreWhpts.com

I found this good description on the Web on Whippet Breed-FAQ . To be sure, that we can use this, I asked the emailer, Nancy Bennett [nancyb@ignet.com], and she replied:

"Certainly. It is there for educational purposes. However, note that it has time-limited material, such as the address of the AWC secretary, etc. This is regularly updated on the site. Would be you putting a link to our FAQs (preferred) or making a copy of the material? Problem with a copy is, some of the info will get out of date and people will be contacting the wrong addresses, etc."

To get it right, I tried to eliminate the part that could contain the wrong addresses and added a link to the page where I found the article. Hope, this is ok. Fantasy 22:54 Apr 6, 2003 (UTC)

Hi Fantasy. To be honest, I hadn't noticed the discussion here before I edited the page. I see now that you have taken the steps of contacting the mailer. I won't reverse the page if you revert the content, but I don't think that the above permission is quite good enough. To post content to wikipedia, we need more than just the "permission" of the owner, we need them to release it under the GFDL. This gives us the right to not just show the FAQ, but edit it and release it to future users as well. See Wikipedia:Boilerplate request for permission for more. -º¡º

OK, thanks for the link, I will contact the copyright owner to sort this out. In the meantime i will enable the content, and if I am not able to get his full permission i will remove it again. Hope that is ok. Thanks, Fantasy 07:36 Apr 14, 2003 (UTC)

Hi Fantasy. I'll just leave it to you or others to figure out what is right. I was only over here to take a look at how different dog breeds were written up. -º¡º

Fantasy, I know you were going to check that the whippet FAQ was OK to use under the GFDL - did you ever get a reply to that? It would be nice to edit the information into a similar format to the other dog breed articles, but I'm not sure what the copyright status is at the moment so wanted to check with you first. Regards -- sannse 19:37 27 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Sorry Sannse, I forgot to add it. Here is the reply to the Wikipedia:Boilerplate request for permission, I recived on the 25.04.03 15:47 from Nancy Bennett:

Ok, I agree. :)

Nancy

This should set the copyright-status clear, you can now change the text without worries ;-) Fantasy 19:49 27 Jul 2003 (UTC)

That's great, good work Fantasy :) -- sannse 15:25 28 Jul 2003 (UTC)

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OK, I've had a go at removing the FAQ format. I also removed some bits that seemed more chatty than our usual article style. I think it would benefit from some more editing for style though. I'll leave it for now and see how (or if) it develops -- sannse 21:59, 1 Aug 2003 (UTC)

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Whippets always seem strongly linked with Yorkshire (as much as, say, flat caps) - Does anyone know why? Should this have a mention in the article? Orbtastic 10:45, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

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Curious why someone decided to edit out our Loure Coursing Association link....? Seems as though there is a lot of that kind of thing going on here at Wiki.... We edit and add good pages and then someone takes them out because it doesn't fit their personal paradigm. I sure would have liked an explanation, but there isn't one on the talk or history page.

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Added the Sighthound Field Association of Tidewater to the external links. It's a non-profit "for" Sighthounds that works within the limits and bylaws of both ASFA & AKC. I can't imagine why someone wouldn't want a link like this on the Whippet Wiki...?! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.165.64.249 (talk) 02:27, 18 February 2007 (UTC).

Because that link does not provide any additional information to the article. Please read the WP:EL policy regarding external links. --Edokter (Talk) 14:33, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

By your logic -- NONE of the external links conform to the WP:EL policy regarding external links. You should get over your 'god' complex and allow others to work on this wiki besides just 'you'.70.165.64.249

Technically speaking, the SFAT isn't directly and solely related to Whippets, and therefore ineligible per Links normally to be avoided number 13. By that logic the American Sighthound Field Association is also ineligible. --Pharaoh Hound (talk) 21:12, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

That would mean that all the racing/coursing sanctioning bodies links should all be removed. I disagree with this assessment however. The national sanctioning bodies do provide more information about what to do with your Whippet and provide links to clubs such as SFAT and others.Mikieminnow 21:27, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

You are correct. None of the racing organizations apply to just whippets, and therefore the links are in direct violation of WP:EL regarding external links. They have been removed. -Edokter, since you want a perfectly clean Wiki, you can't just choose what rules you want to follow and which rules you will NOT. If people want information on Lure Coursing, then people reading this Wiki will follow the links to Lure Coursing. Thanks for bringing this issue to light.70.165.64.249

I have reverted your last edit for the following reasons: 1. removing multiple links without consensus, and 2. Violation of WP:POINT. Please familiarize yourself on how Wikipedia works. Content is decided upon the consensus of the community, but everyone has to follow the relevant policies and guidelines. And please do not tell me I have a 'God complex'; that borders on a personal attack (WP:NPA). --Edokter (Talk) 14:51, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

The racing organizations do not apply to just whippets, and therefore the links are in direct violation of WP:EL regarding external links. They should be listed in the Lure_coursing Wiki. They have been removed from this one. I would encourage you to go to the Lure_coursing Wiki and ensure the links are located there. Dude 70.165.64.249

Please review Edokter's comments above regarding removal of links. Mikieminnow 21:43, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Please stop defacing this Wiki. The racing organizations do not apply to just whippets, and therefore the links are in direct violation of WP:EL regarding external links. They should be listed in the Lure_coursing Wiki. They have been removed from this one. I would encourage you to go to the Lure_coursing Wiki and ensure the links are located there. Dude 70.165.64.249

Just because a site does not solely deal with whippets, doesn't mean it breaks WP:EL. Anyway, your disregard for policy has resulted in you being blocked for 6 months. --Edokter (Talk) 18:08, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, Edokter. I had submitted this to the mediation cabal this morning. I will rescind my request for mediation now. Mikieminnow 19:02, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

You can thank Proto for blocking him. After seeing the history of 70.165.64.249, I asked for some input on WP:ANI and Proto promptly blocked him. --Edokter (Talk) 19:42, 28 February 2007 (UTC)