Template talk:West Midlands railway stations

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[edit] Disused stations

I've added the disused stations, for which there are articles. I'm also aware of (in Birmingham):

  • Bromford Bridge
  • Camp Hill
  • Castle Bromwich
  • Central Goods
  • Church Road
  • Granville Street
  • Handsworth Wood
  • Hagley Road
  • Harborne
  • Icknield Port Road
  • Kings Heath
  • Lifford
  • Monument Lane
  • Penns
  • Rotton Park
  • Soho Road
  • Somerset Road
  • Streetly
  • Sutton Town
  • Sutton Park
    • An Historical Survey Of Selected LMS Stations Vol One Dr R Preston and R Powell Hendry (1982, Reprinted in 2001)
  • Winson Green

also:

and I'm sure there were more. Andy Mabbett 01:01, 19 March 2007 (UTC)


There were indeed. How about the following to start with:
  • Dunstall Park
  • Wednesfield Heath
  • Heath Town
  • Wednesfield
  • Willenhall Bilston Street
  • Willenhall Stafford Street
  • Monmore Green
  • Ettingshall Road
  • Bilston West
  • Daisy Bank
  • Darlaston
  • Pleck
  • Short Heath
  • Princes End and Coseley

The real trouble is that there are so many closed stations in the area that an attempt to get them all in one template will be a nightmare. Fingerpuppet 00:10, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Size of template

I'm getting worried about the size of this template: it's starting to get far too big. (It's already taking up most of my 800x600 display....) Maybe the Metro stations could have their own template? Possibly even the disused stations should have their own as well, especially if all those listed above (and some in Coventry?) are going to be added. --RFBailey 09:27, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I'd be happy with that, so long as each of those templates included links to the others (not least because some of the metro stations are disused railway stations, and vice versa). We could, if necessary, have separate "disused stations in..." for B'ham/ Black country/ Coventry; or "disused stations on the xxx line" or "disused [GWR/ LMS] stations" (including predecessor companies, of course) . Andy Mabbett 11:18, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
There's plenty more where that lot came from - I haven't mentioned most of the ones located in Dudley MBC or Sandwell. The problem with the Birmingham/Black Country/Coventry idea is the definition of "Black Country", the missing Solihull MBC ones plus the ones just outside the Metropolitan County such as Wombourne and Codsall. How about one of those fancy templates that are in several independent sections (like "Places with city status in the United Kingdom")? That way you can have a section for "open", "closed" and "Metro". I'd also suggest that The top section is changed from Birmingham City Centre stations to the major West Coast Mainline stations - BNS, Birmingham International, Coventry and Wolverhampton High Level, as I rather suspect they're the busiest rather than Moor Street. Fingerpuppet 16:34, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Or just "mainline stations"/ "inter-city stations". can you provide a link to page with one of the "fancy templates", please? Andy Mabbett 17:23, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Template:UK_cities is the one I had in mind. It seems that it is made up of a group of other templates, which I feel would be a sensible approach here. Fingerpuppet 22:16, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I've put together here an initial draft of the sort of thing I mean, with a copy of the current template beneath for comparison. What do people think of this sort of approach? Fingerpuppet 23:17, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rail Around Birmingham

This regional map showing operational and disused railway station is a very good source and reliable at that. Some stations are outside the West Midlands boundary. - Erebus555 18:25, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Rail Around Birmingham is a great source. As I undestand it, it shows ALL stations in the West Midlands conurbation, used or otherwise, as well as the others. I used it extensively for stations on the South Staffordshire Line, which, I think, is complete now. I would use the source extensively because reliability is good. Worley-d 14:02, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes; I'd be inclined to make sure that every article on a station links to the respective page on that site. Andy Mabbett 14:22, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
I've done this as standard on the South Staffs stations' pages already, so I guess it's something to continue with. We have to remember that while the smaller stations are maintained by a small group of followers, stations like Birmingham New Street have stupidly large bases of people who make edits. So perhaps we should just concentrate on the lesser stations and let the bigwigs have their say on New Street. Worley-d 10:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Just be aware that it does not actually have information about every station. There are cases in which the station may have a page but not information or images. However, I am sure this is going to be rectified in due course. It may also be useful to note the amount of information it has on Midland Metro stations too. - Erebus555 17:10, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure what to say about the Metro. It's not a heavy rail line so should it be included? Worley-d 21:03, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
This is "West Midlands railway stations" not "West Midlands heavy railway stations". Andy Mabbett 21:38, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Quite, but are the Metro stations classed as rail stations anyway? If anything they should have their own template? Just throwing ideas in the ring Worley-d 12:23, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Hence the separate sections in my "discussion template" above... Fingerpuppet 15:36, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
I'll just shut the f**k up now :) Worley-d 22:16, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
No need to do that - they're good thoughts that need discussion! Fingerpuppet 07:47, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sources

[edit] Be careful with boundary!

I've removed Wyrley and Cheslyn Hay: it's in Staffordshire, not the West Midlands. Care needs to be taken to ensure that the no more stations outside the county are added! --RFBailey 08:50, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

On the other hand, it would seem really daft to miss out the former Wombourne station as it's the only station on the former line that's not inside the WM County boundary on the curving route. Fingerpuppet 09:24, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
In the case of Wombourne, we could perhaps include it in (brackets)? Andy Mabbett 09:33, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Thank you. My bad. Just goes to show, you shouldn't believe everything you read on Wikipedia! Andy Mabbett 09:33, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Regarding the Wombourne branch, the Penn station is also outside the boundary (it was in Lower Penn), as is Himley. Possibly Gornal station was too, but I'll need to check a map. --RFBailey 10:39, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Gornal is in the Dudley Metropolitan Borough so is almost certainly inside the West Midlands Conurbation. Worley-d 00:09, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

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