Talk:West Midlands (county)

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In an official local government Order it declares that, throughout the document, the term West Midlands "means the metropolitan county of West Midlands", implying that "metropolitan county" is descriptive and not part of the official name. Andy G

I read that as having the opposite meaning. Andy Mabbett 11:04, 30 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Surely they'd have written "Metropolitan County of West Midlands" (i.e. with a leading capital) if that was the full name? Andy G 19:23, 30 Oct 2003 (UTC)

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Are the Euro constituency and the "Region" different areas? Andy G 01:23, 30 Oct 2003 (UTC)

As far as I was aware, no, but I haven't looked into the matter. Morwen 08:56, 30 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Given that the region is "sometimes considered to spread as far as Cheshire, Gloucestershire and Oxfordshire" and that the constituency has explicitly defined borders, how can they be the same? Andy Mabbett 11:04, 30 Oct 2003 (UTC)

I took that question as meaning are the constituency and the governmental region are the same, not the unofficial region. Morwen 11:07, 30 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Perhaps we should "disambiguate" the region and the, er, region? Andy Mabbett 11:21, 30 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Yes - when I posed the question I meant the official government Region (as in Regions of England), not the generalised region/area/zone. The "Region" is well-defined; the "region" is the one that sometimes includes Cheshire etc. I s'pose the use of a capital R is too subtle. Or maybe we should call the "region" the "West Midlands area". Andy G 19:23, 30 Oct 2003 (UTC)

the West Midland Bird Club uses West Midland Region (singular Midland) for the four counties of Staffs, Warks, Worcs and the WM county.

my favourite is the West Mercia police, who cover staffs, worcs, and herefordshire. Morwen 19:40, 30 Oct 2003 (UTC)

actually the West Mercia police cover Shropshire, Worcestershire and Herefordshire. Staffordshire has its own police force. David

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Who considers Oxon and Glos to be part of the Midlands, anyway? Mercian imperialists, or the residents of such counties? Morwen 11:24, 30 Oct 2003 (UTC)

First define "Midlands" ;-)

TV regions? Railway regions? Post Office regions? I know of organisations which include Lincs or Cheshire in the Midlands. Andy Mabbett 11:30, 30 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Obviously I'll have to go on a trip to Oxon and Glos to survey the people. ;) Btw, anyone else thing the Midlands page could do with a discussion of the tendency of southerners to deny the existence of the Midlands, and the annoyance this causes? or is that just me who has come across it? Morwen 11:41, 30 Oct 2003 (UTC)

There used to be "South Midland" busses in Oxfordshire. Andy G 19:23, 30 Oct 2003 (UTC)

[edit] History

In the history section of this article, it states that certain districts were absorbed by the County Boroughs in 1966.

This isn't quite correct, as a large number of the districts were in fact split. For example, Wolverhampton did not absorb the entirety of Bilston MB, Wednesfield UD and Tettenhall UD, but a large proportion of each. Quite large parts of Tettenhall UD are now in South Staffordshire district, a reasonable-sized part of Wednesfield UD are now in South Staffordshire, and a smaller part is now in Walsall MBC, and parts of Bilston UD are now in Dudley MBC and in Walsall MBC. A small part of Willenhall UD isn't in Walsall MBC, but in Wolverhampton CC.

This section therefore should be rephrased. Steven J 14:20, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject: West Midlands proposal

I have proposed the creation of WikiProject: West Midlands at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#West Midlands. If you are interested in participating in the project, if created, please add your name to the list. Thank you. - Erebus555 18:49, 17 January 2007 (UTC)