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Contents 1 Bengal history 2 Bangla wiki 3 Governor of West Bengal 4 Religion? 5 Flora and fauna 6 Kansai Link 7 Ganges delta map 8 West Bengal districts map. 9 Sports Section needed attention 10 citation 11 clarification 12 Battle of Plassey ? 13 Land acquisition clashes

[edit] Bengal history

I have noticed that under the link 'Bangladesh', there is a brief history of that country starting from 13th century , but here under 'WestBengal' there is no history attached . However how Bengal / Bangla / Bangali were evolved from one to two thousand years BC , was an enchanting story and good to know. Every bangali whether originated from westbengal or bangladesh should feel great when they know this very ancient history . So, my request , if that old history can be added in this link. Thank you. from : pramita@comcast.net

[edit] Bangla wiki

The Bangla wikipedia is just taking off, but unfortunately, there are not too many wikipedians from West Bengal in the bangla wiki. So, I'd request editors from West Bengal to join there and add the articles on West Bengal, Kolkata etc. Please check out http://bn.wikipedia.org . Thanks. --Ragib 02:07, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Governor of West Bengal

This article is required in Wikipedia. --Victor.P.Das 21:00, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Governors of West Bengal is in an ok-ish status as of now.--Dwaipayan (talk) 03:06, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Religion?

What is the current religious breakdown? Also, percentages for the demographics section? pfahlstrom 23:27, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Demographics has been updated, including religious data.--Dwaipayan (talk) 16:47, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Flora and fauna

I'll work in the flora and fauna, which is the part I can probably most contribute to, since I'm a biologist by training, but it might take me some time. I'll probably write it offline as a hart summary and link out to a separate page. Give me a week to compose it offline and I'll have it ready to be added next week. Take care all. Great job so far Dwaipayan --Anirban 20:16, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

You can write a large article named Flora and fauna of West Bengal, and add its gist here in the of West Bengal, and add a link to larger one as the main article. See rhe history and Geography section for example. Thanks.--Dwaipayan (talk) 11:44, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

The West Bengal page section for Flora and Fauna is done. Sometime I'll write up a larger article. --Antorjal 14:49, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kansai Link

I just removed the link to "Kansai" in the geography section. This is because the link pertains to the Kansai region of Japan (e.g. Kyoto, Osaka), not to a Bengali river. If anybody has a disagreement with this for whatever reason, please discuss your views here. Thank you! --Kuaichik 22:38, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi... I've linked it to the Kangsabati River which is another common name for the Kasai. Thanks for spotting the link. :)--Antorjal 01:47, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ganges delta map

80% of the land mass shown in the map is actually the Bangladeshi side of Ganges Delta (you can determine this by locating Hatiya, the large island at the mouth of the Meghna River. WB is visible only at the lower left 15-20% of the satellite image. So, is there a better map available that shows more of WB? --Ragib 17:40, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Yeah. Will try to find out one better/replace with something else.--Dwaipayan (talk) 10:05, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] West Bengal districts map.

• I downloaded the excellent svg file created by deeptrivia and modified it per Samir's suggestions in the peer-review using Inkscape.
• Modifications :

1. Midnapore District has been bifurcated to show both Paschim Medinipur and Purba Medinipur.
2. Numbered and listed districts per comments at peer-review.
3. Font size reduced for clarity, since the districts are now listed.
4. Many of the spellings did not conform to linked articles in the text. All spellings now match the West Bengal article spellings.

• Unfortunately, the file works fine with software but doesn't format correctly on the page itself - [1]. So I've created an exported png bitmap file too and I'm using that one - [2] until the experts can fix the svg file (which would be awesome). Take care and please don't mind the ineptitude of a novice :P. --Antorjal 14:29, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sports Section needed attention

The Sports section need some reference as well some more information. The section looks more like of Kolkata rather than of a state. Important sport personalities should be added like Sourav Ganguly and other. Amartyabag 04:38, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] citation

I have to say some "citation needed" tags are odd, specially the one claiming a reference for "Durga puja most popular festival"--ppm 17:55, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Why is it odd? — Indon (reply) — 20:40, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

because it seems like the least controversial statement in the article. its like "west bengal is an indian state" (citation needed)--ppm 22:22, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Citation isn't used solely for controversial statements. Do you think that every readers should know that "west bengal is an indian state"? One common knowlegde for someone does not mean that it is also common knowledge to someone else. Now, please tell me why Durga puja is claimed to be the most popular festival? — Indon (reply) — 22:37, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

You answered yourself. There isn't a citation needed mark for "west bengal is an indian state". Why? Citations are valuable real estate. They should be used for controversial statements, or statements where there is a need for elaboration but not in the text. For example a survey should be cited, because people might want to know who was the surveyor, what was the statistical method employ, exactly how many people were surveyed etc. What would a citation for Durga puja serve? By the way, I am not suggesting that there cannot be a citation for it. I just don't understand why such a citataion is INDISPENSABLE for the article.--ppm 00:48, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

I asked for the source why Durja puja is called "popular". Provide that with your source. Otherwise remove the line. All things that you wrote in WP must be supported by a reliable source. Yes, there isn't a citation for "west bengal is an indian state", but if somebody asks for that, you must be able to supply your source.

And the way you answer "You answerd yourself", is very uncivil.

— Indon (reply) — 09:47, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Not all citations have to be in the same article. For example, "West Bengal is a state of India", here, the India article is the appropriate place to add a citation to this fact, rather than going to all of the state articles and repeating the same citation there. When an internal wikilink suffices, adding citations just makes the article cluttered. --Ragib 02:11, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey, I did not ask for that fact. I asked the fact that why Durja puja is popular. — Indon (reply) — 09:47, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

But the methodological question remains. Is it okay if the article Durga Puja has that info (I think it does)? --ppm 18:49, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Also, I agree that if someone wants to see proof that West Bengal is an Indian state, it must be provided. But once everyone is convinced, should it be in the article? I don't think so. What kind of encyclopedia cites the first sentence?--ppm 18:52, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] clarification

"though Hindi and Urdu may also be used." - why "may"? is this a matter of legality or common practice?--ppm 18:43, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Do we have to mention the number of MLAs and also the number of constituencies separately? -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 14:16, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, number of Assembly Constituencies is 294 while that pf MLAs is 295 (including one nominated from Anglo-Indian community). That's why it was thought that both should be mentioned. What do you think?--Dwaipayan (talk) 15:23, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Battle of Plassey ?

In the article West Bengal, it is written that,'Their influence grew until the British East India Company gained taxation rights in Bengal subah, or province, following the Battle of Plassey in 1757, when Siraj ud-Daulah, the last independent Nawab, was defeated by the British.[8]'. Is the spelling Plassey correct, or it should be Palashi? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sreerup (talk • contribs) 07:39, 6 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Land acquisition clashes

In the "History" section, I added a bit on the repeated clashes against administration on the industrial land acquisition issue that are occurring in 2007. Since this is a featured article, I thought it would be wise to declare that in the talk page. Please comment if you think this addition is unnecessary/ needs modification. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 08:28, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Dwaipayan for writing a very neutral statement on this matter. This is one of the bad event which occured in our state. I think we can start a new article regarding this (which is supposed to be vandalised very often), already something is written in the Nandigram page. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 10:40, 22 March 2007 (UTC)