Talk:Weight transfer

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Should the shifting of weight in the first paragraph be described as "imaginary"? The article implies that the effects are real and recognized by car designers. Is the issue that weight (mass * gravity) is not actually shifted, but the acceleration makes it look like weight is being shifted? Perhaps a better word would be "apparent", "perceived", "so-called", etc? -- Jacius 23:54, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)

The emphasis of this article is crazy. Weight transfer is far less important than load transfer for most cars and so on. Does the paragraph I added help to explain why? Greglocock 02:04, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

It seems to me, also, that "Weight transfer" is not a very good word here. Load transfer might be a better name, with a redirect. That is, the center of gravity doesn't move much. The change in load comes from centrical force or braking or acceleration reaction (inertia). On the other hand, I think "weight transfer" is the common idiom. David R. Ingham 07:17, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

I agree entirely. None of the hand calculation methods I have seen even considers the change in CG location during a manouevre as being worth calculating. I see no benefit in including an article that perpetuates the problem. If we were to kill this article and make it a redirect to load transfer, explain the problem in terminology there, and then include the bulk of this article in the load transfer article, it would be better. Greglocock 11:12, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

I sort of think "weight transfer" is what people will most easily recognize. "Normal force" might make them try to figure out what an "abnormal" force was. I guess the sense of "weight transfer" must be that the total normal force is still (about) equal to the weight but transfers from wheel to wheel. David R. Ingham 19:14, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, but if common terminology is WRONG, as it is in this case, surely it would be wise to correct it. FWIW Vehicle Dynamics Engineers may talk loosely about weight transfer, but when we write papers we use load transfer. For instance, here are the headers on SAE's definitions of * transfer

9.5 Tire Load Transfer 9.5.1 TIRE LATERAL LOAD TRANSFER 9.5.2 TIRE LATERAL LOAD TRANSFER DISTRIBUTION 9.5.3 TIRE LONGITUDINAL LOAD TRANSFER

OK, how about we keep weight transfer as the main article, redirect load transfer over here, and then have a para explaining why the common terminology is wrong? Greglocock 21:22, 18 February 2006 (UTC)