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[edit] Hi

Hi, thanks for your contributions to articles relating to the Korean Demilitarized Zone, Operation Paul Bunyan, etc. Thanks for helping out! If you're interested, maybe you'd like to join Wikipedia:WikiProject Korea, where you can coordinate with others who share similar interests. We have a couple of working groups starting up that *might* interest you (not sure): this one on North Korea and this one on Korean military history. Anyway, hope to continue seeing you around. Cheers, -- Visviva 15:16, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Korean Armistice Agreement

I've added the "{{prod}}" template to the article Korean Armistice Agreement, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree with the notice, discuss the issues at Talk:Korean Armistice Agreement. You may remove the deletion notice, and the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached, or if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria. --Benn Newman 01:13, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Benn. I think I agree, as it looks like the article has been moved to wikisource now. If this is correct, then I have no problem with deleting it from wikipedia. I do have a couple questions though, since still pretty new to wiki. On the existing pages that link to this, do I need to change the link to reflect it's new location in wikisource, and so, how? Also, there's several 'things' that could be linked in the document back to wikipedia articles. Is that suggested to do as well, or are there other governing attributes for text documents vs. wiki articles that discourage/prohibit it? Thanks for taking the time and effort to review the article and get it moved over to wikisource. wbfergus 12:45, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
The "best" solution would be to rewrite the article to make it encyclopedic. You could also make it a redirect page (which I'm not sure if you're supposed to, its technically possible though) or change all the links to it (but if there would ever be an article there, they would bypass it and go straight to the source text). Use something like [[s:Korean Armistice Agreement|Korean Armistice Agreement]] to link to it. --Benn Newman 17:03, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unspecified source for Image:Armistice001.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Armistice001.jpg. I notice the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you have not created this file yourself, then there needs to be a justification explaining why we have the right to use it on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you did not create the file yourself, then you need to specify where it was found, i.e., in most cases link to the website where it was taken from, and the terms of use for content from that page.

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[edit] Welcome to the Military history WikiProject!

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[edit] Axe Murder Incident

Hello! I asked you to please cite some references for the additions you made to this article. Thanks a lot. Rare thing to have parts of such an event described by a real-life witness. Please feel welcome to contribute as much as you can.

While not wanting to be a pedant, it would still be good if you could reference as much as possible using published third-party sources (sadly, other witnesses themselves do not count unless they have written books or articles about it), as it otherwise would be original research. Have a look at what this means, and why Wikipedia has this rule - though in this case, most of the editors here will likely err on the careful side in treating what you might add. If you are unsure how to cite, have a look at the way the other references on the page are included. Internet links are NOT needed for a reference, just provide as much info as you can.

And don't be in any way put off by the above. Welcome on Wikipedia. MadMaxDog 12:56, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks MadMaxDog. There's a whole lot of information I haven't added, as most of it is/was from a biased POV. But, I do need to flesh out the section a bit more with additional details and pictures (I have permission from Wayne Johnson who took most of the pictures).
As an aside, your name is a tad funny. Our platoon was named the "Mad Dogs" after a nightime patrol we conducted, by the KPA guards. We (about 5 of us) snuck out of our main checkpoint and made a round of the JSA. When we were near KPA#10, we heard some snoring, so we snuck up the building and pounded on it with our axe handles. We heard shouting from inside and high-tailed it back to our checkpoint, laughing all the way. We started walking about 50 yards away from our checkpoint and the KPA caught up with us, ticked off really bad. They had a camera with them and started taking pictures (with the flash), and then complained about us the next day at a Joint Duty Officer meeting, stating ".. Lt. Zilka's Mad Dogs who patrol the JSA at night with big sticks". (Lt. Zilka was our platoon leader). Anyway, the higher-ups in the chain-of-command thought it was both pretty funny and quite an honor, since the KPA had never complained so vehemently or specifically about our gaurds in the area, and told us we should keep the name and use it with pride.

[edit] Not a problem

Not a problem, I'm just updating Air Force photographs and saw "soldier" and was thinking...hmmmm, that doesn't look right. It's all good. Signaleer 15:40, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Linking categories

If you want to link to a category (as in the discussion on the MILHIST talk page), use the following: [[:Category:United States Marine Corps fixed wing squadrons]]. Carom 18:16, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, I finally figured it out, except for the code/nowiki part. Is that neccessary, as it appears to have worked without it? :^) wbfergus 18:19, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
No, those are not neccessary. Using "code" just produces a different font, which is often used when talking about actual code (so that the code doesn't get lost in the rest of the discussion). "nowiki" is used to override the wikimarkup, so that you can display the code, rather than getting the result that the markup would normally provide. I used them here so that you could see the markup to use without having to enter the edit screen. ;) Carom 18:26, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Adding reference to an article

Hi, just to let you know. If you're the first to add in a reference into an article, you have to add in the appropriate template near the end of the article to make it show up. -- KTC 09:33, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I didn't know that. I've subsequently gone through the main set of pages I've been editing and have changed the <references/> notation I was using to now use the {{reflist}} template instead. It looks like it has a few 'features' that will make it worthwhile and easier to use. wbfergus 17:50, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Axe Murder

Hi William. Thanks for providing more info and material on this. I have done some layout editing on what you added, though.

Could you please revisit the 'Background' section and try to clarify the initial sentences? First of, is it correct that some of the post were abbreviated CP and some OP?

Second, where you say "...OP#5 (now called CP#3) during the summer months. During the winter months, a UNC checkpoint could only see the top of CP#3", is:

  • a: the to-from relationship of the visual angle correct or reversed?
  • b: the second time you refer to CP#3, is this the original or the renamed?

This section has simply gotten a bit confusing over time. Would be great if you could have a go at clearing it up. Thanks. MadMaxDog 07:03, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments. I went back and hopefully got it cleared up now. I decided using the new new name, even if only one in parentheses, confused the matter to much, so I stayed with the names used at that point in time. I was also wondering about adding another image showing the layout of the JSA, the one from the Joint Security Area article, August 1976. Any thoughts on that, or where it should go? wbfergus 11:49, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Added it in - it certainly helps the article, even while already being included on two other articles. MadMaxDog 08:05, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] People's Volunteer Army

While legally that may be correct, the formations of the PVA were simply 're-hatted' PLA formations that existed before the Korean War within the PLA Ground Forces and, after the Korean War, still within the PLA Ground Forces. As far as I was aware, it was a legal dodge to avoid a wider war with the US, but they were inherently PLA formations. For one small example, see Tiananmen_Square_protests_of_1989, where the PLA's (ex PVA's) 27th Army was one of the forces suppressing the protests. When we get round to writing individual articles on PLA armies, their PVA period will be only one part - though an important part - in their history. Thoughts? Buckshot06 21:20, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

You had it right - they should be listed as units of the People's Liberation Army, with a notation in their history that while they fought in the Korean War, during that timeframe they were ostentiably part of the People's Volunteer Army. A subcategory tag within the 'Units and formations of the PLA' will handle that. Great work on starting the PLA by the way - we're tremendously systematically biased toward Uk, US, Germany etc... Cheers Buckshot06 20:15, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

My thought would be to create the 'Military units and formations of the People's Liberation Army' category, simply by initially writing it out as a redlink, and then clicking on it, then renaming the armies & divisions to eg 27th Army (People's Republic of China). Keeping the PVA category would probably be good to, to mark the units that were involved in the Korean War. Cheers Buckshot06 20:40, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Unspecified source for Image:JSAmap.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:JSAmap.jpg. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, then you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, then a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a restatement of that website's terms of use of its content, is usually sufficient information. However, if the copyright holder is different from the website's publisher, then their copyright should also be acknowledged.

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Hi. How does "who created the content" differ from the current licensing section that says it's in the Public Domain and a work of the U.S. Government? Doesn't the "Work of the U.S. Government" already state "who created the content", or am I missing something? Most of what I've uploaded has either been my own work or the work of the U.S. Government. wbfergus 10:30, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
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