Talk:Warsaw Ghetto
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"At this time, the population of the Ghetto was estimated to be about 1,000 people, about 68% of the population of Warsaw." -- Were 1,000 people -really- 68% of the population of Warsaw?? This seems like a typo. -- Thurifer 17 Mar 2007
An event mentioned in this article is an October 16 selected anniversary.
An event mentioned in this article is an good place for the jews that is not true----
More to come in a few days, until someone else is faster. --Yooden
I guess ZZW is ŻZW, Żydowski Związek Walki (i am not sure, but Jewish Fighting Union in Polish is translated like that (and yes, those organisation were named in Polish, and they used also Polish flags) szopen
Could you check whether I messed up the characters? --Yooden
I guess they are OK now. szopen
To help with the Warsaw Uprising page I made a number of photos around Warsaw. I can also make more on demand for specified locations in the centre to help with this page. If there's something still existing in Warsaw and/or a monument anybody would like photographed, please put a note on my talk page saying where and why. Mozzerati 22:10, 2004 Jul 31 (UTC)
- I uploaded yet another pic, but I can't fit it into the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising page. Perhaps it could be added here? Halibutt 23:31, May 30, 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Jewish Ghetto Police
Goodoldpolonius2, please don't revert without discussing it first at this talk page! My primary texts are: Emanuel Ringelblum, Notes from the Warsaw Ghetto, ISBN 0805204601 (unfortunately I have only Polish language edition), Barbara Engelking, Ghetto Warszawskie. Przewodnik Po Nieistniejacym Miescie, ISBN 838763283X (in Polish). Engelking's 824 pages work is the most complete book on the Warsaw Ghetto. It was published by Polish Academy of Science in 2001. Also, Calel Perechodnik, Am I a murderer?: Testament of a Jewish Ghetto Policeman, ISBN 0813327024 describes participation of the Jewish Ghetto Police in Otwock (outskirts of Warsaw) in deportations to Treblinka. Quick google.com search on Jewish Police yields the following pages: [1], deathcamps.org/occupation/warsaw%20ghetto%20liquidation.html, [2], [3], [4]. I would be happy to discuss this topic here since, guessing from your reaction, this issue is relatively unknown even to people interested in Jewish history. --Ttyre 18:56, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I think that if you want to insert that sentence, it needs to read, "A role in these expulsions was played by Jewish Ghetto Police, organized, like the Judenrat, by the Germans. Some of the police were threatened with having their relatives sent to death camps if they did not comply with these orders, and others saw an opportunity to live better than the average Ghetto resident." From your sources (www.deathcamps.org/occupation/warsaw%20ghetto%20liquidation.html): "The 2,000 - 2,500 Jewish policemen and their families were promised immunity by the Germans for their co-operation. As the "action" progressed they began to understand that they were not more than a tool of the Germans and their future like ordinary Jews was clouded in doubt. Therefore they began to desert in droves. The German's response: each policeman was personally ordered to bring in five heads per day for deportation. Those who did not fulfill this order were threatened with having their relatives transported to make up the difference. The SS directed the deportations from two centres in the ghetto." Not that there weren't thieves, opportunists, and evil people among the police, but we should be careful to explain more fully. --Goodoldpolonius2 03:19, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
On a role of the Jewish Ghetto police see discussion. --Ttyre 16:01, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
[edit] "Poles" = non-Jewish Poles?
This article contains at least two references to "Poles" in contexts that make it apparent that it means non-Jewish Poles. It presupposes that Jewish Poles are not Poles. I'm inclined to change it to "non-Jewish Poles". Comments? Michael Hardy 20:57, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
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- I think non-Jewish is more common usage, but either one works for me. --Goodoldpolonius2 01:55, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
someone please answer this: when did the ZOB recieve their first gun?
[edit] Corruption of article
...members of the Jewish police the sdjhdfgh]] train station each day, and failure to do so would result in immediate execution of some one hundred hostages, including Czerniaków's wife...
Does anyone have the information to correct this? --Brideshead 18:17, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] 1821, 1903
The article claimed the Germans occupied Poland in 1821 and established the ghetto in 1903, which is obviously some sort of wierd typo. I changed the dates to 1939 and 1940, respectively, since I know the Germans invaded in 1939, and the article says the ghetto was established one year after the beginning of the occupation. I marked the edit as minor due to the obvious implausiblity of the 1821/1903 dates, but I just thought I'd mention it here since I don't know much about the warsaw ghetto. --Filippo Argenti 20:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
