Talk:Ward (fencing)

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[edit] Merge

I don't know how commonly the term "ward" is used, maybe it would be better to move this to guard (fencing). dab (ᛏ) 09:52, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

The ward, if I remember correctly, differs from a guard in technical application, being an active, not static block. I'll look into it and make an edit today if that's true. If not, I agree. And even if it is, we may still have a merge to occur in the future as a ward is commonly thought of as a type of guard, guard being simply a defensive posture or action. -- Xiliquiern 14:04, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

hm, no, it is no block, neither active nor static. it is a position assumed in the zufechten, i.e. before any blade contact is made. dab (ᛏ) 15:25, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, I meant it as a position that can be used to block a blade, as most of the guards do, except perhaps langort (though even it in some cases), but also a position that is in the zufechten yes, like ochs or pflug. I was also thinking ward may have been used to discuss an absetzen or versetzen, or the position resulting from such a movement. I looked through a few sources this morning (mostly Ringneck interpretations) and the ARMA website and have not been able to find a discernible difference between the two. Sometimes guard is used, sometimes ward, but I have yet to find a specific citation of how ward is different than guard - something tells me there is a usage of it that is in someway definably different, but that could be addressed within the article. For now, I am in favor of your suggested move to guard (fencing).