Talk:Walker Colt

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[edit] Citations Needed

Several posts in this article are in need of citation and are likely not factually accurate. I will notate them. Roundeyesamurai 05:51, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

I am adding in additional information regarding the factual errors in this discussion page. I am not editing the front page, because I believe it to be important that people see that an attempt is being made to police the overwhelmingly great number of factually inaccurate firearms pages on Wikipedia.

In order of notation:

1) The Walker Colt was not the largest blackpowder handgun ever produced. It was (read this sentence carefully) the heaviest factory-production blackpowder revolver produced. It also (again, read carefully) utilized the largest charge of blackpowder of any factory-production blackpowder revolver produced.

2) Walker was not a Ranger at the time. He was a former Ranger (rank of Private), who had enlisted in the 1st U.S. Mounted Rifles ("Dragoons"), and subsequently recieved an officer's commission. Hence, he was a U.S. Army officer at the time the revolver was created.

3) It is nigh on impossible to prove Walker's intention for the revolver, without source material attributable to him. Although its true that this revolver served well in this capacity, it cannot be established that Walker specifically had this purpose in mind without the aforementioned source material.

4) The chambers had enough space for 60 grains, but Colt recommended a 50-grain charge. This charge was also contingent on two factors: 1) the coarseness or fineness of the powder, 2) the projectile used (see below).

5) This is a blanket statement about scores of models of blackpowder revolvers, in a multitude of different loadings, with a multitude of different specifications.

6) The Walker was originally designed with a round ball in mind; however, when the Minie ball was introduced shortly thereafter, most Walker shooters adopted them. When Minie balls were used, the charge of powder had to be significantly reduced.

7) Walker died shortly after recieving his revolvers from Colt (a matter of weeks). He had not enough time to "use them to great effect".

8) Subjective narrative. The exact circumstances of Walker's death are not known. For all we know, he may never have fired his revolvers at all.

9) Slightly more than a thousand were produced, not "1100".

10) - 13) Sources?

Roundeyesamurai 18:46, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More Of Above

There has been great progress with the article, but there are still unsourced/inappropriate statements:

1) Walker was an officer in the First U.S. Mounted Rifles at the time, not the Rangers. 2) In order to support this statement, one would need a reference to his battle record. 3) Source this. 4) This isn't applicable, since Walker revolvers were not cartridge loaders.

BTW- AF985, you cannot remove citation tage simply because of appearance.

Roundeyesamurai 06:56, 30 March 2007 (UTC)