Talk:WALL-E

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This article was nominated for deletion on 18 January 2007. The result of the discussion was keep.

Contents 1 Plot? 2 Official Wikipedia naming? 3 Succession 4 Logo 5 Greg Kinnear?

[edit] Plot?

I have added the link to JHM that talks about the plot to WALL-E. Should I keep it there? I see that previous additions have been deleted because JHM is a blog, but couldn't this be incorperated into the article? --Bobthemonkey3 16:42, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

WP's official policy is listed at WP:SPS. Blogs are not considered reliable sources for information from Wikipedia's viewpoint (JHM has been wrong in the past, even a little bit about WALL-E). We *like* JHM, but because of the way JH writes... "the information has been self-published, which means it has not been subject to any independent form of fact-checking." SpikeJones 17:44, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree it shouldn't be used as a source, but couldn't it be added in there as a "JHM has an artice about the reported plot of this movie, not as plot" entry? It is information about the movie.--Bobthemonkey3 18:01, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

No, because there are all sorts of blogs that have articles about the movie (valid or not) that would want to be linked as well. Just keep monitoring other 3rd parties (not blogs) for verifiable information that would collaborate what JHM has said, and when you see an indepenent, reputable source that can back up what JHM posted using their own cited research, then the plotline can be added. SpikeJones 18:42, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

I think the blog seems pretty accurate - if we want a plot here, we HAVE to use the blog as source. Or we should delete the whole Plot section. --Have a nice day. Running 00:47, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

OR you could just put it under rumored plot.

Same issue. no fact checking. jj 21:04, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Official Wikipedia naming?

Is there any consensus on what the proper WP page name should be? Over the months it has been W.A.L.-E., WALL-E, WAL-E, WALL -E, and now WALL• E. SpikeJones 13:32, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Both Bob Iger's letter and the title image depict it as "WALL• E". Until we hear otherwise, I support this as the official name. RMS Oceanic 15:30, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Is it with or without the extra space near the dot?SpikeJones 16:20, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

It's hard to determine using the picture alone, but Iger's letter uses the space, so again, I say we use it until otherwise corrected. RMS Oceanic 17:58, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, if we go by that Reuters article (and who knows that that writer is using as the source material), then the name of the movie would be "Wall-E". JHM is using "Wall E". Disney is using "WALL• E" (if you cut-and-paste from their article), and the graphic that may or may not be real is showing as "WALL•E". As an encyclopedia, can we at least get confirmation on what the name of the film is supposed to be before we start writing too much of the article? SpikeJones 19:40, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

So.... we've made an official decision on what the WALL-E page is going to be called, then? SpikeJones 00:37, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

No idea. jj 02:27, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, User:Tregoweth just renamed/moved the article, so is that confirmation on anything?SpikeJones 04:42, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

I was just trying to make it easier to type, assuming that Disney was using the bullet for visual appearance, not for actual spelling. It can always be moved back When more information is released. —tregoweth (talk) 05:48, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Succession

I've added Toy Story 3 as the Pixar successor to this film, in the succession box. M. Collins 14:56, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Logo

Which one should we use and why?jj 00:34, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I think we should use the logo with the dark background instead of the one with the white background. First of all, I don't know enough about either of the logos' fair use problems, so you can disregard my opinion if fair use problems actually do factor in significantly. Fair use problems aside, however, the official logo with the dark background would be the more appropriate image to use. I personally think that it looks better on the dark background, but the phrase "looks better" is subjective. In my humble opinion, it's better to use what is, rather than what we hope should be - the latter would differ from person to person anyway. S@lo 02:16, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

The black on white logo looks better on the page, I believe. According to the image tag, it was created specifically for the site, and at higher resolution, based on the original. Also, based on Wikipedia image use standards, the black on white logo should be the preferred one to use, as it has not been lifted from another site. WP:FU states that Copyrighted images that reasonably can be replaced by free/libre images are not suitable for Wikipedia. The white on black logo is a copyright infringement, the other is not. It's really quite simple, as far as I'm concerned. MikeWazowski 07:03, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Greg Kinnear?

Where exactly does it say that Greg Kinnear will be playing WALL-E? I've already tried to use Google (and Google News) to verify this, but I still didn't find any articles/websites confirming this. I didn't see it in any of the references or external links either. Did I overlook something? S@lo 03:56, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I have not heard anything about Greg Kinnear being in the film, but I have heard the Fred Willard will right here: http://jimhillmedia.com/blogs/jim_hill/archive/2007/02/27/toon-tuesday-again.aspx don't know if it's true though. Pixar is 04:53, 19 March 2007

As we've said elsewhere, we cannot use JHM as an original reference source for WP articles. You must find an outside reference that (a) is not a self-published blog that doesn't cite sources; (b) does not use other self-published blogs as their source information. This is why we try to stick with official Disney/Pixar released information or media with editorial review and fact-checking to support info included in WP. (We *like* JHM; we just can't use it as a source) SpikeJones 00:22, 20 March 2007 (UTC)