Talk:Wagga Wagga, New South Wales
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Assessment comments
The following comments were left by the assessors: (edit · refresh) • 05:44, 17 February 2007 (UTC) - B class - the first few sections are good and well-referenced, but still need a bit of work; the rest of the article needs quite a bit of work on it. Good balance of pictures and information though. |
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[edit] request for comment
I've only ever heard of this lore told as the 5 o'clock wave - not 4 o'clock. Is anyone else familiar with this? --Centauri 10:49, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Eurythmics
On what basis is the claim being made that Annie Lennox and Dave Stewart formed the Eurythmics in a Wagga Wagga toilet? Both musicians were already in another band called the Tourists when they decided to form a duo. I can't find anything on the web to substantiate that claim about the toilet meeting. Megan1967 07:17, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- I recall the story being in circulation in the music media in Australia in the mid 1980s, and heard it at that time from numerous sources, so I've always assumed it to be true.--Centauri 03:57, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Redirection of this page
This page should not have been moved without consultation. We have established a naming convention for all Australian places by concensus discussion on the Australian Wkipeidan's Noticeboard. While there is only one Wagga Wagga, many Australian place names are not unique. For the sake of simplifying disambiguation, all Australian places, other than State capitals with unique place names (ie not including Perth), are automatically disambiguated, including Townsville. Please see the current discussion at WP:AWNB#Naming_conventions.2C_again....--AYArktos 22:19, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Five O'Clock Wave
I have reverted the following addition to the Geography section:
The river also supports a sandy "beach" where people gather for picnics and barbeques in the summer months. The beach used to play host to the "Gummi Float" where people were encouraged to make rafts from inner tubing and sabotage their competition by throwing rotten eggs and flour at them. Those still nostalgic for the event can take a float down the river from "the Rocks" which are located some 600 metres upstream from the main beach area. Located on the river, the beach does not have ordinary waves, but at 5 o'clock every day, water laps towards the shore as flow relased from the Burrunjuck Dam upsteam washes through the area - this "phenomenon" is known affectionately as the Five O'clock Wave.
Before re-inserting please cite your sources. If it is a myth, please state clearly. This Lonely Planet reference implies the 5 Oclock wave is a piece of local folklore. Perhaps it could be included as folklore. The "Gummi Float" description also needs to be referenced.--A Y Arktos 21:56, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
This is definately a local myth and is in no way true. It is all meant as a joke --Zig c 11:35, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
- I remember a local myth about commuters from Narrandera catching the 5 o'clock wave home every day. Both the 5 o'clock wave and the Gummi races are mentioned in Sherry Morris' Wagga Wagga, a history. I've reinserted references in the History and Tourist Attractions sections. Gimboid13 00:36, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Verifiability
Can we have some sources please? This needs to be verified. I note that someone has added a book source to the Wagga article. I will arrange in the next 7 days to read the book to affirm that it supports the assertions in the article which include reference to the 5 o'clock wave. My local contact had not heard of this piece of folklore and has been around the district long enough to come across it if it had existed.--A Y Arktos 07:18, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- I lived in Wagga for 3 years, and the tale was related to me within days of my arrival there from Sydney in February 1985 - and I heard it related to many others over the following years. I don't know who your local contact is, but they seem peculiarly uninformed. --Gene_poole 05:34, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
I went to Yanco Agricultural High School in the 1980's. This school is on the Murrubidgee River and we revelled in convincing boarders from the coast with stories about a daily wave that occurred every day whilst we were being served dinner, it was especially good because the river was off-limits regardless of the time of day. Garrie 00:46, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Merger of Wagga CBD Discussion
I think the article needs to be retained, but not as "Wagga Wagga CBD", instead it should be "Central Wagga" or "Central Wagga Wagga". Central Wagga is considered a distinct suburb by the Wagga Wagga City Council as much any of the other Wagga Wagga Suburbs articles on here. In fact it is one of the cities most highly populated suburbs. But the name is incorrect because there isn't an area of Wagga known as the CBD and the article needs to be re-written with the whole suburb as the focus.--Zig c 04:07, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- It should be in the city article as it doesn't have a lot of content and would most likely have some duplication since the city article should discuss its CBD. Garglebutt / (talk) 23:52, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
- As at March 2006 the article still hasn't identified separate content from the city article and specific to place- I plan to merge shortly.--A Y Arktos 18:56, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
- I've had a go. Most of it was already included in the main article but I've copied across the remainder. - Gimboid13 08:35, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Meaning of aboriginal words "wagga wagga"
Could somebody please cite a linguistic source for the meaning of "wagga wagga" in the dialect of the wiradjuri people? I know it is modern folklore that that is the meaning of the word. I know that is the understanding that lead to the place getting the name it now has. But was that understanding correct, or was it wrong? The same arguements are going on on the talk pages of several locations, and regardless of the way it is/was undertaken there was a similar arguement on the meaning of "murrumbidgee".
--Garrie 23:18, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
- I think the Geographical Names board of NSW is reliable source wihtin the scope of Wikipedia:Reliable sources booth for Wagga Wagga and Murrumbidgee. The GNB does in turn cite its sources.--A Y Arktos\talk 23:22, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
- In this case I think they cite the city of wagga city council. Surely someone involved in the Wagga articles has some connection with the aboriginal land council, or is involved in studying the wiradjuri culture? GNB names have been shown to be factually wrong before, but once the name is an accepted place name then that is all the GNB care about (they are only a geographic names board after all).--Garrie 23:28, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
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- Answered on user's talk page. GNB does not cite Wagga council but appears to have cited anthropologists.--A Y Arktos\talk 02:30, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] infobox obscelescence
I've converted the infobox to the new version, however there was some information left over that isn't in the main body:
|pophistoric= 627 (1861), 6,419 (1911), 19,235 (1954), 39,461 (1981) |pop2001=56,722 |railway=1879 from Sydney
Harryboyles 15:15, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Wagga vs Wagga Wagga
Locals never call the place by its full name... but this isn't explained, the article just starts using Wagga as the single word.
Is it worth mentioning the song, Don't call Wagga Wagga, Wagga??? Garrie 10:16, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
- I've put in the lead sentence that it is informlly referred to as Wagga. As to the song, I'd probably make a section about unique Wagga customs, like the 5 o'clock wave. Harryboyles 10:59, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Merging Sturt Mall
Yes please - if this article should be kept at all it should definitely be merged into Wagga Wagga! VirtualSteve 07:45, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Keep Seperate: Sturt Mall should not be merged with Wagga Wagga. If Wagga Wagga Marketplace gets its own article, Sturt Mall should as well. I think some more information could be added to the article, but it has a good opening paragraph and a photo. --Whats new? 00:37, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
As detailed above I withdraw my opinion that this article should be merged. User Whats new? makes a good point in relation to one in all in - and I whilst I have my own opinion as to whether that is a good reason for anything to be in Wikipedia - and as to whether a small country shopping mall is encyclopedic (I see 10's of 1,000's more separate articles for every shopping mall in Australia - not to mention the world) it seems it is important to others - see List of shopping centres in Australia. So I agree it should be kept separate and cleaned up (or perhaps deleted if it is not). VirtualSteve 01:52, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Additonal external link
I think Wagga Guide at www.waggaguide.com.au should be considered for the external link section as it is an excellent resource on all aspects of Wagga. The site includes information useful to new residents like when to put your bins out or where to get new ones, location of hospitals, the local schools of all levels in the area, what shops are located where, and the city counsillors with their contact information for all levels of governement. There is information for visitors and what to do while in Wagga including upcoming events all the major pubs, restaurants and cafes. There are featured community based news stories about interesting local happenings. The website is updated regularly and is in the process of adding a lot of new content. what do you think? (Catrionakerr 03:41, 15 January 2007 (UTC))
