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[edit] Clean Up

Hey, I'm trying to clean this article up a bit. One of the problems was that it was clogged with useless information (did we really need a HUGE article on the difference between this and the comic?).

Anyway, will try and get it up to speed soon by splitting the detailed info up into more articles.

[edit] NPOV

There is a neutrality warning on this article, but not much in the talk section to go on. Could somebody put in a specific cleanup or NPOV request saying what needs chaning?

--perfectblue 14:35, 8 August 2006 (UTC)


What does Will say after "Guardians Unite"? Each of them says what element they have control over but not Will - what does she say?

Will says 'Heart'

perfectblue 15:44, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

For the first season, I think that she says "Birth"

Afro Squirrel 4:29, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Two Things

I have two questions. In the cast guide, it says Toby Linz as Christopher. WHO THE HECK IS CHRISTOPHER? And also, has Frost the Hunter appeared in any episodes in season 1?

Tyar 21:21, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Christopher is Irma's little brother. DUH!

No, because Cesar Flores voices Chris Lair, not Toby Linz. It has to be a different guy!

Okay here is the deal. Toby Linz was originally to voice Chris but got replaced by Cesar Flores. Chris appears in four episodes (for now). Frost the Hunter appeared in 2 episodes (Ambush at Torus Filney and Framed) in season one and appeared in the first half of season two. 24.167.169.163 02:48, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Just gotta say thanks to Magicalboy for his contributions to this article, and most notably for the screens. Your help is much appreciated - keep on the good work.T-borg 20:58, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for future editors

This article is in serious need of knowledgeable editors who more than just the fancruft currently maintaining this entry. I would be doing myself, but I did not watch more than the first five episodes that were broadcast as part of saturday morning ABC Kids in early 2005, I think. With that in mind, I request that future editors focus on the following:

  • The current episode listing/synopsis need to be rewritten in a encyclopedic manner with information about major events that contribute to the series. Put up a "spoiler" warning and small synopsis of what that episode was about.
  • The character chart table needs to be better explained or removed. I am still trying to make sense of it.
  • The Blooper and Difference between comic and animation sections need to be elaborated so differences between both mediums is explained clearly. As it stands now, some of the entries of seem incomplete.

--Kenn Caesius 01:13, 28 June 2006 (UTC) Do we really need the minor characters?

[edit] Hint

Season one and Season two are copied from http://www.tv.com/w.i.t.c.h./show/29931/episode_listings.html. That's why they look this way.


[edit] Theme song

does anyone know who sings the U.S theme song to W.I.T.C.H?

I don't know, but I remember Fox Box (or whatever they are called now) had the band playing the song one Saturday, around when they first got the series.

[edit] Comic vs. Series

I have two problems with the Comic vs. Series section.

  • The name of Phobos is mentioned in the first episode.

This isn't a real difference because the comic doesn't have episodes. You could say that in the series it is revelaed early, and in the comic it's revealed later, but right now, there is no comparison.

  • In season one, Will's powers were super-strength and the ability to blind her enemies (for a short time) by releasing a bright pink light from the heart. Though this will change in season two when she will get the power to talk to appliances and the power to release absolute energy, a lightning-like attack.

This has no comparison to the comic in it. If a trivia section was made, this would fit in it, unless a comparison to the comic is made though, it is in the wrong section.

[edit] Note on Spelling

I removed the line 'Whoever keeps spelling Kandrakar with a C stop because that's not the proper way, it's with a K' from the main article and put it here where it belongs. NeonDaylight 14:57, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

OK, Didn't it say on the article about W.I.T.C.H. that it's spelled Candracar OR Kandrakar, not Candrakar OR Kandracar?T-borg 15:41, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm not very knowledgeable about the subject, I just re-posted the line exactly as it was in the article. NeonDaylight 04:24, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
At least in the comic, and at least in Swedish and Italian, it's spelt "Kandrakar" with "K" everywhere and no "C" anywhere. (Stefan2 05:37, 14 October 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Stub

I think we should point out what makes this article a television and animation stub, and then work on that. Any suggestions?T-borg 15:50, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Hellooo? I didn't post this for you not to answer!;)T-borg 18:57, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
I have to disagree; considering the type and amount of information already present, this article is hardly a stub in need of expansion.--Kenn Caesius 20:41, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

If you go over the history, you'll see that this message was from the time the article was classified as a stub. I only asked people why it is, so it can be fixed.T-borg 21:07, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Censorship

Was this show censored/cut in any noticable ways for the US market?

--perfectblue 17:37, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

The censoring I was referring to when I first created that passage was from comparing transformation sequence from european comic version to the current television series. In the european comic, the transformation sequence (from teen girls to "w.i.t.c.h.") was much more suggestive of nudity by focusing more on everything below the neck and the feminine physique.--Kenn Caesius 18:02, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
So, there is nothing in the European TV version that was cut or edited in the US TV version?

--perfectblue 14:30, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

To the best of my knowledge, that was only thing edited.--Kenn Caesius 23:22, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Actually, two clips of It Begins were edited for the US market.

Which parts? and were they left in for UK/Canadia versions?

When the girls are in the gym and Irma says Uriah should slither back into the water, water shoots from the fountain and hits Uriah in the face. And when the girls are in the restaurant, Irma screams "Keep all that noise down!" Then, the others look at her and she says "I was being ironic!" - Frozen Flower

perfectblue 15:41, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] P is for and Q is for

Sourses have not been sited, so I'll remove the added info. Sorry, but I checked on TV.com and they haven't posted any new episodes after L is for Loser.T-borg 08:53, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Episode summaries

I really don't think that they should be copied straight from TV.com. It isn't encyclopedic at all. The plot should be summarised in it's own section, and the episode summaries- deleted. After all, Wikipedia is not a TV guide. T-borg 10:38, 9 August 2006 (UTC) PS: Note the similar situation on the article about A.T.O.M..

I have the same impression as well and it will only be a matter of time before someone pulls "copyright violation" issues. How do you suppose we can address this? Off the top of my head, we have two options: an overall season synopsis like the one used in the Winx Club article or (if we can really find the time) a separate article like episode listing like South Park.--Kenn Caesius 19:22, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
The overall season synopsis sounds to me like the best option, but I think we should take a vote on it. Do you think it might make the article a bit too big?T-borg 21:40, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Not at all. I believe that the overall story of each season can fit into what, one, two, paragraphs? --Kenn Caesius 23:44, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

If you say so, will something like this do:

[edit] Plot

  • Season 1:
  • Season 2:

T-borg 12:19, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] TVRage

I seriously think we should remove the link to tvrage.com. The episodes summaries there are nonsensical, the information inexistent and the forum has been inactive since June, none of which makes it a valuable guide to link to. Witchinsider 07:54, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Characters

Hey, here's a thought. How about we just skip the characters section. All the needed info on them is already on the page about the comic book. Here we should just point out differences in the original characters and their TV series counterparts, and list any exclusive characters introduced. What do you think?T-borg 20:00, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

I am not at all sure. By skipping are you suggesting that editors consider removing the section entirely? if that is the case, it is a bit too drastic. I would like to suggest reducing, editing, and moving content from the current entries to their respective articles.--Kenn Caesius 22:40, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
Well, now that I think about it, there are already some articles about W.I.T.C.H. characters, so I guess the best thing would be to concentrate on those. On a side note, didn't you read the whole message? I did suggest we point out differences between the original characters and their TV series counterparts and also list any exclusive characters introduced. But It's partially my fault, should have been more specific.T-borg 10:09, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
In my haste to reply, I will have to admit that I might glossed over your comment and I must apologize for my faux pas. I like your plan and I suggest you go through with it.--Kenn Caesius 23:06, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

I just think that it is terrible that they are taking it off of ABC Family. Some cable's don't offer Toon Disney. I am going to miss Saturday and Sunday mornings.

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What I say is to just have the characters section blank on this page and have a link to the new pages being created: Shetfield Institute Related Characters and Meridian Related Characters. However, T-borg and I are trying our best to finish up Shetfield, but it will take awhile. PLUS SOMEONE ERASED WHAT I TYPED UNDER URIAH DUNN! In the meantime, he will just have to leave what we have, although it is irritating to see your hard work being erased by someone. Tyar 22:31, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

That's the price we pay for partisipating in "the Free Encyclopedia":). But as this is no place for such discussions, this is T-borg, signing out.T-borg 07:17, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

It's Sheffield, not Shetfield. This needs to be corrected. Witchinsider 12:44, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

It has been corrected. Tyar 20:43, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Knights of Destruction

Is it possible that the Knights of Destruction are a reference to the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse? Or is it just speculation? T-borg 10:48, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mess ?

Hi, Someone just got in and edited major external links as the 3 ones redirecting to each different version of opening I cleaned a month ago, and apparently replaced with pirated content (tv rips of episodes). Anyone got backup so we can remove and put older version in a click ? Thanx. Onickz, Witch crew

[edit] Editting gone awry?

First off I really like tha progression this article: detailed and concise. However, there is one glaring problem: what is the w.i.t.c.h. animated series about? A non-spoiler plot or synopsis of the two seasons would be nice would really enhance the article.--Kenn Caesius 20:58, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Can't we update the article with accordance to this? May the Edit be with you, always. T-borg (drop me a line) 15:31, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Separate episode articles

Would it be acceptable if separate episode articles were created, like it was done with Ben 10? --May the Edit be with you, always. T-borg (drop me a line) 14:34, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

So long as they contained more than just the episode name and a TVtomb 2 line summary.
perfectblue 14:42, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Any preferences about the articles' names, like "Episode name (W.I.T.C.H. episode)"? --May the Edit be with you, always. T-borg (drop me a line) 14:51, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Well, personally, I think that it would be best to have them all on a single page, or 1 page for each season. An appropriate name would be "List of WITCH episodes" or "List of WITCH episodes (Seasion 1)", as we don't really need an essay summary, just a start middle and end paragraph.

perfectblue 18:22, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

PLEASE read WP:EPISODE first. Episode articles can't be created until season articles are written. The season article should not be created until this main article is cleaned up and it needs some work. Cheers. L0b0t 22:07, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
It's still a future possibility though, so it's good to make plans now rather than one person rushing in unilaterally.
FYI, I know that it's not your fault, but there are so many wiki guideline sheets like WP:Episode out there, but there actually finding them is a pain especialy for newcommers who don't know that they are there.
perfectblue 08:30, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Too many character pages

In addition to the individual pages for the main characters, there are three pages with various descriptions of the heroes and villians on them, some are rather mess or patchy, and all are out of step with one another.

Unless somebody comes up with a real big reason not to do it, I'm going to merge all of these pages (except the ones for individual characers) together into a single page. This includes removing most of the character details from the main Witch page.

perfectblue 11:55, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Something along the lines of List_of_W.I.T.C.H._Characters (TV_Show), perhaps? May the Edit be with you, always. T-borg (drop me a line) 12:05, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

That's the one that I'm updating right now. I was thinking that maybe ALL the characters should be there. At the moment there are characters on two other pages as well.

perfectblue 12:24, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Z is for Zenith

OK, I've seen the thread on TV.com, but still, wasn't there a rule about referencing forums? May the Edit be with you, always. T-borg (drop me a line) 18:58, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Guardians of what?

During Season 1 W.I.T.C.H. were the Guardians of the Veil, but in Season 2, didn't the Oracle say they were now the Guardians of the Infinite Dimensions? May the Edit be with you, always. T-borg (drop me a line) 17:52, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Correct Spelling?

Is it Kandrakar or Candracar?

The Disney website [[1] uses a double C, but loads of other sites use the double K spelling.

perfectblue 09:47, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Candracar is what is used in America. Kandrakar is used in Italy and the Philippines. --Amibite 18:16, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

In that case, I vote that we maintain the original spelling.

perfectblue 19:56, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Episode name

What was the name of the episode where Haylin does the school play about the dragons?

perfectblue 13:17, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

"Ambush at Torus Filney". --May the Edit be with you, always. T-borg (drop me a line) 15:04, 1 December 2006 (UTC)


Thank you for the W.I.T.C.H. ! i love it!

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[edit] CHYKN

Do we honestly have to use C.H.Y.K.N.? It's not an official name. Hay Lin only suggested it... Øřêōş 04:04, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

It's used several times during season 2 and became the in universe name used for them. Plus the alternative is "The old guardians" or something similar, which is longer and less succinct.
perfectblue 09:07, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

It has not been used in the comic book, so we should probably not refer to the former Guardians as CHYKN when speaking about the comic book. Øřêōş 12:04, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fifth Heart

What was the name of the holder of the fifth magical heart, the big rock creature that Nerissa tried to seduce at the end of season 2?

perfectblue 17:19, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Not exactly sure if he even had a name, but I'm a bit bussy these days. You can look it up on YouTube, they've got all of the episodes (I believe the episode in question was "V is for Victory"). --May the Edit be with you, always. T-borg (drop me a line) 21:23, 10 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Article called 'The Graudians Powers'

I been thinking that we could make a page for the graudians powers and just list the powers they have on the main page. PS3 wins 18:12, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

I think that it would be hit be an AFD on the grounds of notability within about 5 minutes. The correct place for the guardian's powers is on their individual profile pages. We need to cut the power section on the main page down to basically "Taranee Cook: Fire, Telepathy " and so on, and use the profile pages for all the details.
perfectblue 19:17, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
After reading the pivorse one it is the best place for the powers to be on the profile page. PS3 wins 20:59, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
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