Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/World idealism
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World idealism was proposed for deletion. This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was to delete
See also World Idealism. Non-notable organisation. - Ta bu shi da yu 07:04, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- See also World Idealism. Organization has received 58,000+ inquiries in nine months. Christianity, Islam and many belief systems started as much smaller "Non-notable organisations" within the first nine months of their beginning. Since the movement is designed to have no central authority and grass roots meeting events in homes, no accurate records of memberships is available at this time. Waiting for polling organizations and demographic experts to determine estimates of number of adherents by March 2005. -
H. Ariston 08:14, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)- Please totally discount above comment. This was created by an anonymous IP editor, however you might want to check the main user pages and their edit histories for confirmation that this was a hoax. I'm considering banning the anon for a while, because I count this as deliberate vandalism. - Ta bu shi da yu 07:46, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Delete or redirect depending on the result of the other entry. Gazpacho 07:18, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Requires further research on number of adherents and analysis of actual propositions for personal and social change. Has far reaching implications for geo-political issues. Suggest independent investigation of the truth to determine whether falsehoods or truths are presented by this new group.
Willbo 07:20, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)- Please totally discount above comment. This was created by an anonymous IP editor, however you might want to check the main user pages and their edit histories for confirmation that this was a hoax. I'm considering banning the anon for a while, because I count this as deliberate vandalism. - Ta bu shi da yu 07:46, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Delete - author is now engaging in a rather poor attempt at deception. Both comments by "H. Ariston" and "Willbo" were posted here by the same IP (66.69.226.158). These are not real users. This article and any stemming from it are clearly self-promotional. -- Hadal 07:33, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Obviously, there is an effort to supress new ideas, new ideals, to ensure that the status quo is maintained at all costs. What fears are there about giving new ideas to the public? And, who exactly is being promoted? Who is the one receiving any money or fame? The movement's founders have gone through great lengths to remain anonymous and to place the power for change back into the hands of all people. Hadal needs to re-examine the assesment of 'self-promotion' with respect to the more correct 'idea-promotion' descriptor. (comment by User:66.69.226.158)
- Might want to check the user pages now mate. - Ta bu shi da yu 07:43, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Sorry, but Wikipedia is not a soapbox. Gazpacho
- Obviously, there is an effort to supress new ideas, new ideals, to ensure that the status quo is maintained at all costs. What fears are there about giving new ideas to the public? And, who exactly is being promoted? Who is the one receiving any money or fame? The movement's founders have gone through great lengths to remain anonymous and to place the power for change back into the hands of all people. Hadal needs to re-examine the assesment of 'self-promotion' with respect to the more correct 'idea-promotion' descriptor. (comment by User:66.69.226.158)
- Delete; wikipedia is not a soapbox. JesseW 07:58, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. Wikipedia is not the place to promote your utopia. jni 09:59, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. Essay and website advertisement. We may agree with some of the ideas, but here is not the place to promote them. We should ignore the attempted deception and intimidation by the author above, but the article merits deletion anyway. Andrewa 11:06, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. The creator appears to be unaware of what Wikipedia is and is not. Needs to establish notability, needs to stop trying to use Wikipedia as a soapbox. Average Earthman 15:42, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Delete: Deism lives. Idealism in the Platonic sense is extinct. The article is proselytizing/advocacy of a scheme. For people committed to universal values, though, lying and vandalizing look hypocritical. Geogre 15:58, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. Non-notable, wikipedia is not a soapbox. Jayjg 21:34, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Delete fvw* 00:30, 2004 Nov 26 (UTC)
- I've read all of the above comments. I read the idealism-universal belief website and am not sure whether the people who submitted the original Wikipedia article and related comments are authors of the website or not. Has anyone tried to contact the authors of the website to hear their thoughts on the subject and the wikipedia entries by anonymous people? Is the article on World Idealism being introduced by a supporter, opponent or author of the website? Strangely, the website does not contain the term "world idealism" anywhere. It only describes itself as "Idealism." Who can contact the authors to verify the accuracy of assumptions detailed above? - a student of philosophies (UTC) Interesting ideas for world peace but rather idealistic, but idealism is how the website describes itself.
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