Talk:Volvo 200 Series

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[edit] 6-cyl diesel

Was the only Diesel engine in 200-series the 2.4l L6? Were they still called 24X or were they 26X(D)?

Both actually. The Diesel engine was introduced in the 244/245 in 1979, but from 1980 to 1982, it was changed to the 264/265. However, when the PRV V6 engine was removed from the 200 series in 1983, the 262/264/265 was dropped and the Diesel was changed back to 244/245, where it remained until 1992. --Pc13 16:13, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

According to the 140/240 Model FAQ, diesel 240s were produced in the United States from 1980 until 1985. Initially they had relatively luxurious trim, but in 1984 the goodies were removed. I do not know if they were called 260s, but I do know that they were called 240s at one point--I believe both GLs and DLs. They also had a badge (I think underneath the numbers on the rear trunk or door) that said "Diesel," as well as possibly one just in front of the front doors. 2 Jan 2005

In Europe the diesels were produced in the years after the American diesels were discontinued. I don't know for sure which engines were used during the later years, but I would think it is unlikely that they had, at least, the same generation PRVs as the first diesel 240s from 1980. However, I don't know how the Volvo diesel engines evolved over the years. 2 Jan 2005

The 260 had a distinctively different body style than the 240; although it shared the same front end, they were built with longer doors and used a different roof style, thus the diesel 240s would not have been called 260s.

I've never heard of substantial body deviations beyond different front ends. There was the initial one, the V6/diesel one, and then the US post-'86 version. There's a non-English website floating around out there (either Dutch or Swedish, or maybe translated into both, but not in English) that's got a very good run-down of front ends, grilles, headlights, and a number of other features on these cars, but sadly I don't have a link. At any rate, I'm pretty sure there were three different front end styles, but no more. --69.242.193.68 00:53, 2 August 2006 (UTC) KeplerNiko

Note: the diesels were produced FOR the US not IN the US. The diesel motor was not a PRV, it was an inline motor. There were supposedly five cylinder (2.0L, D20) variants, and there were 240 and 260 variants of the diesels.

I think I made the mistake about calling the diesels PRVs above. Were all of the diesels 5-cylinder VW engines, or were there 6-cylinder ones as well? Were they all VW engines? --69.242.193.68 00:53, 2 August 2006 (UTC) KeplerNiko

[edit] Last coupe, huh?

Actually there was a 780 (although it didn't have a V8... there you go). Also a Bertone special.

The 200 was the last Volvo were the standard model was avaliable as a 2-door version. The 780 was not standard, nor was it a mere 2-door version of the 700 but featured a whole new body.
I don't understand... What is the difference between the custom-modified 242 Bertone (with its own different roof) and the custom-modified 780 Bertone? Is the 242 a lot closer to the standard 242/244 body? Peaceduck 22:35, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
The 262(not 242) Bertone had certain new features(like the choped roof) but was still based on the regular 242 body. The 780 had a new body whit a lower profile.
I'm not the one who made the distinction between a "standard model" coupe and a totally new version, but I'll relate what I know about the two cars. The 262 C was a modified Volvo 242, a two-door version of 200-series. The modifications consisted of lowering the roof and refitting the interior, plus a number of stylistic additions or changes. The Volvo 780, on the other hand, was a substantially different car. For one, there was never a two-door 700-series--all were station wagons or sedans, so the 780 had to be produced new from the ground-up. Additionally, the sheet metal is quite different from the front and rear of its counterparts. The 780 was, in effect, a third model line produced by Volvo, starting around 1985. --69.242.193.68 01:22, 28 July 2006 (UTC) KeplerNiko

[edit] 240 touring car racer?

How come there were no mention of the 2-door Group A touring car racers in the 80's, I remember they were ran by Eggenberger, later of the Texaco Sierra Cosworth fame. WilliRennen 14:40, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Heres an web article to give you an idea

[edit] Finnish Nickname

Various versions of this article claim that the Volvo 200-series has been nicknamed various things.

"Finnish people called the Volvo 200-series an "huoralaiva", which means in English 'hugger boat'" Finnish people called Volvo 200-series an "ratakisko", which means in English "iron rail". Finnish people called Volvo 200-series an "en Kyrpä-Volvo". Which means in English "cock-Volvo"

Not only are the reasons for the names not given, but huora means "whore," not "Hugger." Are any of these names acurate? Axeman89 18:16, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

A Finnish friend claims to have heard of the Kyrpä-Volvo, but not the other two. Axeman89 19:09, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

I think a Trivia section of this article should be created and the nicknames be included there, and the 300-series information should be dropped from this article altogether. The 300-series, besides simply being another model in Volvo's lineup (all of the others have their own article), is a very different car from the 240s. The driving experience is not at all like a 240, as it is smaller, has a different body type, and utilizes a CVT.

Now, I wonder who the heck says that the finnish people called/calls these things as huoralaiva or its variants. I hapen to be a finn myself and I haven't heard anyone else than some of those teenagers calling these cars as such. This is heavily universalized so I would suggest removing such comment. And I would bet by coffee ticket that the writer of such comment was a young lad like myself who is propably studying in some kind of trade school or similar secondary institude.

A Finnish Machine Enthusiasth 20.11.2006 (day/month/year)

[edit] Volvos on TV

I was the one who added the theory attempting to explain why 240s are commonly seen on television. Besides Nicholas Cage movies, there's never been any sort of clear-cut explanation, but the observations have been noted on the Brickboard. I recall reading a posting that seemed to attribute the prominence of the cars to their inside room, which allows for easy framing of actors and positioning of the cameras. Of course, this guess is just a theory, not proof, but it was definitely proposed by those who know their 240s well, if that counts for anything--sadly, I was not able to find a specific post while searching the Brickboard forums. There was once a post there, though; I know that much. --69.242.193.68 02:46, 28 July 2006 (UTC) KeplerNiko

I must say that I very much doubt this explanation. When a Volvo is featured in movies it is used to tell us something about the charcter: He is an academic, teacher, or any other type of "desk" work - e.g. he's not a craftsman. It also shows that the character is very saftey conscious. --Jimmy Magnusson 11:11, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Looking at this again, it looks more and more like Original research:
It includes unpublished facts, arguments, concepts, statements, or theories, or any unpublished analysis or synthesis of published material that appears to advance a position — or which, in the words of Wikipedia's co-founder Jimmy Wales, would amount to a "novel narrative or historical interpretation."
I have therefore removed the theory. --Jimmy Magnusson 17:26, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Length of Article

Being a huge fan of the Volvo 240, I'm glad to see the wealth of information contained within this article, which dwarfs many other comparable car articles (from the browsing I've done).

However, I feel like the article has grown too large and is overwhelming in size; thus, reducing the length of the article would be in order. Most of the information on the page is fairly interesting and at least somewhat documented; I don't want to see that just deleted. Perhaps some of the less-relevant material (towards the bottom of the page) could be spun off into new articles, while the more important facts are revised for organization and concision.

Any other ideas how the article could be made more accessible, informative, and readable (encyclopedia-like)? --84.85.0.110 02:04, 30 November 2006 (UTC) KeplerNiko

[edit] RWD + Snow?

"One of the popular features of the Volvo, especially in the Northern parts of the world, such as Sweden, Norway, and Canada, is the handling in ice and snow, generally ascribed to its front engine, rear wheel drive design." - How is this true? If anything, RWD is a bad thing on slippery surfaces; especially compared to front wheel drive. --Jimmy Magnusson 11:16, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

I think we should just remove statements like that unless they're backed up by clear references from reliable (probably major media) sources. Even when references, it's inherently point of view (as are the merits or otherwise of front wheel drive! ;-) – Kieran T (talk) 12:59, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
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