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[edit] External VB6 link

Hello, I just tried to add a link to an external site that I think is very helpful. The site currently and will always deal only with Visual Basic 6 information. Many VB6 sites are not up to date or don't even exist any more once VB.NET was realeased. However, like this wiki discribes many business still use VB6 heavily. This site is for those business. I am wondering what needs to be done in order for this site to be considered a valuable asset to the VB community? As it was immediatly removed from the external links section when I added it. I hope this makes sense - I am not trying to be a pain or annoy anyone, so if I am missing something please let me know. The link is vb6.us.

Thanks, Mjwest10 20:38, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm the one that reverted your edit. The main reasons were:
  • There is already a long list of sites. Wikipedia is not a list of links
  • There was no comment to go along with the edit
I seem to recall that link was added a while ago and got reverted. (I tried to go back and find that, but I just tried to find that, but couldn't.) wrp103 (Bill Pringle) 02:05, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
That makes sense, except for I think even though there is a long list of VB6 sites some of them are not nearly as useful as the vb6.us website. For example the Visual Basic Sample files link goes to http://undim.blogspot.com/ - this is a BLOG that has only three posts on it and a bunch of ads. Another example is the ABOUT.com site - it goes to a page that only has a few VB.NET samples - seems to be much better placed on the VB.NET Wiki page. Another one is the Beginner Visual Basic 6 tutorials (http://aphnetworks.com/tutorials) this link goes to a page that has a bunch of tutorials related to PHP, windows tips, and other things and only a few Visual Basic related material. This website is of some use, but it seems like a site committed only to VB6 would be a good link to have. This is why I added it, but I didn't think about the fact that I should have commented along with it - sorry about that. Would it be appropriate for me to replace the visualbasic.about.com link with the www.vb6.us link? Please let me know.
Thanks, Mjwest10 16:02, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
As a side note - I just noticed the last link on the page (vbaccelerator) is simply a link to a bunch of advertisements.
Mjwest10 16:07, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Why don't you delete the references which you think aren't appropriate, since you spotted them? (It is easier to get forgiveness than permission. ;^) If you can get the list down far enough, then adding vb6.us won't be such a deal. Make sure you explain your edit!
BTW - you should use colons to indent each new thread. This helps people keep straight who said what when. ;^) wrp103 (Bill Pringle) 16:49, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Sounds good - While we've been talking - two more links have been added. I am going to remove those new ones and go through and figure out any dead/useless links. Thanks for all your help and patience.
Just updated the external links - I removed any dead links, ones that were not directly VB6 related, or ones that were specific to one tutorial - for example a tutorial that explained how to create a hash tree in VB. Now we have room to include other VB6 tutorial sites - but I would recommend people discuss them first - to make sure its not just a site that is a bunch of ads. Does this seem reasonable? Mjwest10 18:52, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mjwest10 (talkcontribs) 18:15, 21 February 2007 (UTC).

I added a comment to the Tutorial section of the article suggesting they discuss any additions on the talk page before adding anything. That way, if anyone adds an entry, especially without any comment, it can be reverted right away.
You're getting the hang of Wikipedia. Great job! Now, remember to sign your posts on the talk pages with four tildes (~~~~) wrp103 (Bill Pringle) 19:47, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Popularity

"it currently competes with C++ and JavaScript as the third most popular programming language behind C# and Java."

Doubtful. The article referenced is almost 2 years old. More recent data suggest otherwise:

http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm

--200.59.173.14 19:43, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

My guess is that we could find a number of articles that would rank languages differently, but I agree that the more recent article should take precedent, and we should probably add a date to the statement. wrp103 (Bill Pringle) 22:54, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Controversy section

I pruned most of the controversy in this edit. The previous version can be seen here. This section had been tagged for cleanup since May 2006 and was almost entirely unsourced. It also compromised a major portion of the article. I believe that my edit helped to focus the article on the language itself rather than various opinions about the language's strenghts or weaknesses. If a controversy section is necessary, statements obviously need to be attributed and reliably sourced. ChazBeckett 02:10, 17 March 2007 (UTC)