Talk:Vistula-Oder Offensive
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The edit adding the reference to "European Theatre" may be misleading. The European Theatre of Operations was a US command, similar to the CBI, MTO or SWPA. I don't think it is synonymous with "the war against Germany". I suggest it be removed. Everyone can see from the map that the campaign took place in Europe.DMorpheus 18:16, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
It is still a lousy article and many important elements of the offensive are missing. The map is incorrect because it includes conquests made after the offensive. I am reading a book about it, but I would appreciate some help. Andries 00:07, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
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- I agree completely. I will try to provide some help. DMorpheus 00:30, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Scope of the offensive
I am a bit confused whether the offensive included attacks by Ivan Chernyakhovsky on East Prussia that started on Jan. 13. The book by Hastings suggests but does not state that it was not part of the offensive. The book by Beevor is is not explicit either, but suggests otherwise. The offensive excludes attacks made after 2 Feb. such as the attack on Pomerania. Andries 06:25, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
I think these maps help:
- Vistula to Oder: Soviet Advance Across Poland January 11 - February 2, 1945
- Soviet Advance into East Prussia & Seige of Königsberg January 13 - May 9, 1945
They are part of a series copyrighted to Richard Natkiel, Gatrell Ltd so they can not be copied as images into this article. The talk page Talk:Prague Offensive includes a list of Soviet offensives sourced from http://www.fireonthevolga.com/Red%20Army%20casualties,%201941-1945.html which ties in nicely with the maps above. BTW I know the source for the maps because Ziemke uses them in his book "Battle for Berlin end of the third Reich". As the Offensives on the talk page are similar to those in the maps, I have added the later offensives to the Eastern Front (World War II), but they still need to be stubbed as they are red links at the moment.
I have also included an link to an article called the Capture of Pomerania and Silesia, This period could be included in this article but it would cover the fighting in later Feburary and March which may or may not be inclded in this offensive, and could include the German counter offensives of Feb 16/18. On Page 45 of Ziemke's Battle for Berlin there is a map in the same series as those above showing the counter attack and the front lines during this period. --Philip Baird Shearer 20:15, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Operations details
This is a rather unininteresting subject, because it is clear why the Soviets achieved a breakthrough. I do not know what to write there except for Walter Nehring roving cauldrons. Andries 13:09, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
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