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Native American Timeline

I'm signing off too. But Wiki has these timelines as well. See also:

Best wishes. WBardwin 07:22, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I looked over the Template:Timeline of the Migrations Period. Very nice. While you are thinking big - and trying to gather information -- why not create one on a smaller scale? Such a chart on the Ancient Pueblo Peoples/Anasazi could include Chaco and near-by ruins such as Hovenweep and Mesa Verde. I'm no "techie" but if you have the programming skills, I can help provide the information. Think it over. WBardwin 04:50, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
I was thinking by culture site over time. Some of these sites just begin at a given Pecos Classifacation stage and die out at another. It appears the Anasazi people were much more mobile than their stone structures lead us urban types to believe. Because of the impressive ruins, people tend to think of these people as tied to one place. However, they appear to move in response to both social and environmental conditions. So a chart would show which culture sites have which PC characteristics, along with the current date estimates. I think it would be a great "picture" of the Anasazi culture. WBardwin 07:26, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
I'll look over your links and the chart and compare with my books. I think I have at least one source that will give me a good start. Chaco is probably a good timeline to start with, as it was inhabited for a relatively short period of time, although the paleo groups wandered through at intervals in the early years. Will try and dig through the books ASAP. WBardwin 07:55, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm reading and taking notes for the timeline, and find myself making petty little edits all over. There is no article on the southwest pit house!! Have to create that one too. The Chaco article/section on cultural development contains good dated material for a beginning or for experimenting with in a format. While I'm researching again, would you support a seperate article on Pueblo Bonito, such as the one on Fajada Butte? How many of the Chaco sites are individually notable? Best. WBardwin 18:27, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
created a stub for Pueblo Bonito, using the old redirect page. Lots more information available, but lots of disagreements among archaeologists too. WBardwin 03:42, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Category:Celloists

I didn't create the Celloists category. But thanks for your concern. Best regards. Эйрон Кинни (t) 01:53, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

You may be correct, but I don't know a great deal about music or cello(e)s, so you may want to consult someone else about the naming conventions. Or your could just rename it yourself. Either would be fairly efficient. Эйрон Кинни (t) 02:02, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
You're welcome. Эйрон Кинни (t) 02:04, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

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AOL Blocking

Re: your offer of help. I appreciate the offer and I may take you up on it. But -- it will take some time. I'm dealing with company protocols and security issues, as my employer pays for and configures my system to allow me to work at home. They insist on using AOL (or a cable company not available in my area). Any software I download and any sites I have to register with must be approved by my employer first. This process is not hard but it is time consuming. To date, I've not been denied permission -- but I suspect they wouldn't like Foxfire. Will let you know if I need help if/when the approval comes through. Best wishes. WBardwin 18:48, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Don't be misled by the volume of talk about blocks on my talk page -- I can go for long periods of time without a block and then they pile up for a day or three. I was simply out of state for the last few days, giving a workshop. I am afraid, however, that the admins are getting tired of my ongoing problem. And if so, I will have to take some action. The techs I work with are reasonable souls, the personal requests just have a lower priority, rationally enough. So ------- what do you want to talk about? Timelines? Should be around for much of the week -- but have two big projects due in the next six weeks. Best wishes. WBardwin 06:12, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Removing ciation tags

Citations tags are to be placed on the article itself and not in the article's talk page. --Strothra 23:37, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

re edit summary note

Dear Veridas, thank you for the olive branch. I was very tired and rather grouchy last night. Paul B 00:30, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

New votes on Jewish articles

Hi Viriditas: The votes that were cast about the recent Jewish articles were stopped and relisted for a new ("2nd") vote, all can now be found at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jewish summer camps and local organizations. Best wishes. IZAK 06:42, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

re:Usual Suspects

I'm aware of Wiktionary's exicornt vandal, and I've come to calling the guy here the same thing. The Checkuser I haven't heard about: got a link? Given that we know both Eddie and the exicornt vandal edit from AOL, I'm surprised that turned up anything. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 02:41, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Ah, Never mind... —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 04:13, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Stop removing references

Please, stop removing the references related to the Neo-Nazism in Croatia!--69.199.0.50 17:15, 28 May 2006 (UTC)--69.199.0.50 17:15, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Moa move

I've moved the Moa talk, jimfbleak 04:49, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Hello

Bhadani has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk pages. Happy editing!

--Bhadani 14:23, 2 June 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for pointing that out

I'll put my comments at the bottom in future. All the protocol I'm trying to learn in a short time!

--Amandajm 12:33, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Diamond Head, Hawaii

One of the pictures on the Diamond Head, Hawaii article is up for nomination to become a featured picture! You can see the picture here. Please add a supporting vote on its nomination page here or, more specifically, here, if you feel it's worthy. Thanks for your help! Cathryn 16:07, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Re Viridae

Hi. Although the usernames do present a similarity, I honestly don't see any risk of confusion due to this similarity. For instance, we have recently declined a request where the user wanted a username that was taken, so he requested to be named with that username followed by a full stop (as in "username."). Naturally, a single stop sign is too small a difference and could create problems, but "Viridae" and "Viriditas" are sufficiently different. We do have many other cases where usernames are somewhat close, but not really nearly identical, and no problems have emerged. I can actually speak from experience: there are at least two users out there who have the word "redux" in their usernames, and I've never seen any problems, for myself or for them, because of that. Still, you could always try to reach an understanding with Viridae himself. If you guys can agree on it, you can contact me anytime and I will perform whatever change you guys have agreed on (I would only require the links and/or diffs to the discussions you might have had). Regards, Redux 04:14, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Timelines

Noticed your name on Template:Timeline of Conquests of the Ottoman Empire -- is this the style you had in mind for Chaco Canyon? Can we incorporate the Pecos Classification stages into the time axis in some fashion? They are common reference points for students and would be familiar. Working on data -- hardest points seem to be the earlier dates of occupation. Construction dates for the Great Houses are pretty well established. Best.............WBardwin 06:30, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Internet Counter

Thank you for welcoming me to Wikipedia. I was wondering, how difficult would it be for Wikipedia to add an Internet Counter to each article so it could be seen how many people have visited that article like, for example, in the past month and/or year? It would be interesting to see that information below each article. Best wishes, Keraunos 07:33, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Dreamachines

Since I see you have been editing Dreamachine I though you should know that we've blocked indefinitely the user:Riefenstahl/user:Trithemian/ 84.191.xxx.xxx. In addition to his activity on that article, he also runs a business making and selling dreamachines. He was blocked for repeatedly posting personal information of an editor with whom he had a dispute. -Will Beback 19:41, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

KajuPista

Thanks for the welcome Viriditas & for responding to my question on the Talk:Vegetarianism page- KajuPista 09:00, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: Post Armenian Genocide chronology

I fixed the title and I'll remember to use edit summaries. I have no idea why I placed a 1918 entry under the 19th century (I suppose I was thinking 1818 for some strange reason). I fixed that too. Thanks for spotting that. -- Clevelander 00:05, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello

I was just curious why you reverted my edit on The Case For Mars. I removed the Latin because it was unnecessary and the new edit read a lot simpler. Thanks. sinblox (talk) 04:08, 13 July 2006 (UTC)·

Eddie

User:723b, another Eddie sock to add to the list. Nice to see you back from your wikibreak. :) Sarah Ewart (Talk) 14:39, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Thankyou for the belated birthday wishes. :) Sarah Ewart (Talk) 06:04, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

What do you think?

Should I care that (maybe-probably-certainly) Eddie is using us as a Yankees scorekeeping blog? Is it worth hassling about? I'm torn. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 03:09, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

re: Organ Stop Pizza

Whoops! Sorry 'bout that, thanks for correcting it. --Aguerriero (talk) 05:31, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

hi

you told me that my editing reminds you of some other editor named Eddie because he also like the Yankees. i want to know what he has done to you that you're concerned about him.

My page

Hey,

Just because you suspect me of being someone else doesn't give you the right to blank my page and fill it with "sock" nonsense. If you want to talk i am open to comment, but please don't vandalise my page. Go Yankees 04:24, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Grendelkhan's RFA

Thank you very much, that's very kind of you to say. After seeing User:Lingeron do the same to a few othe RFA's, I thought I should say something ;)

Thank you once again, it's always nice to hear from wikipedians that you havn't talked to before, and maybe should have. I'll see you round the wiki. Thε Halo Θ 14:44, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

I feel better now

Any lingering doubts I might have had regarding that block (and I am always a doubter) have been delightfully cleared up by the ensuing spate of obvious Eddie vandalism to my user page. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 02:50, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Oops, I think that may have unintentionally come off with a sarcastic tone. It wasn't! I don't mind my page being vandalized in the least (it amuses me, I'm simple-minded I guess) and I'm glad to know it was in fact Eddie. If the vandalism becomes too much of a pain, there's always semi-protection.
The wiktionary question isn't stupid. I have heard that what they have done is to only allow AOL connections through https: (SSL-encrypted http), which AOL handles through proxies that don't jump around nearly so much. However, Wiktionary supposedly gets a lot less traffic than we do, and those SSL connections are a much bigger drain on the servers than regular connections, so enwiki can't afford to do that, performance-wise.
We have recently been granted the ability to set a block on an IP (or IP range) that won't trigger autoblocks on registered usernames, which makes blocking AOL ranges a little less awful in the case of major vandalism storms... but for the most part, the main tool is still reversion. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 02:10, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

San Francisco Burrito Merger

This minimal merge that you performed is totally inadequate. It violates the principle on the merger page which say There are two or more pages on related subjects that have a large overlap. Wikipedia is not a dictionary; there does not need to be a separate entry for every concept in the universe. For example, "Flammable" and "Non-flammable" can both be explained in an article on Flammability. There is too much general information on burritos in the San Francisco Burrito page. Just putting the summary on the Burrito page doesn't get to the heart of the problem here. Ortcutt 20:17, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Fascinating

Who would have guessed my Gumboot chiton was such a short hop away from Steinbeck? I guess learning that sort of thing is why I'm here. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 02:53, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Obvious?

Have a look at [1] and [2] and see if you don't see what I see. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 23:10, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Never, mind, it's ridiculously clear even to me. I'm writing up some evidence to post when I block. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 02:08, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Mission District, San Francisco

Can you please provide an external source that shows the Polish Club as a noteworthy piece of the Mission District's history? There are many important landmarks in the Mission District, but I do not believe every one deserves a place in the History section of the article. Jonemerson 18:32, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Mesa Verde National Park

I've about typed myself blue in the face with this editor, over a very minor word change from what I can tell. Somehow, he evidently believes this guy was a paragon of virtue and a classy scientist, by virtue of his family, and that the world has attacked him for decades. He even accused me of slander on my talk page, to which I took offense. So -- if you would be so kind -- would you look over the last few edits on the article and the discussion and express an opinion. I'm not asking for agreement, just a third party. Best wishes. WBardwin 01:34, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I know my POV is showing on the talk page, but I've tried to keep the article as neutral as possible. As for Chaco, it appears you are really getting involved in the mixed up world of Southwest dating. I'm sorry I haven't had more time to be of help. Best.....WBardwin 05:53, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

WP:3RR violation.

Viriditas, you have violated WP:3RR at July 2006 Seattle Jewish Federation shooting. Please revert your changes or be reported.--Cerejota 11:48, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

July 2006 Seattle Jewish Federation shooting

What's the story with the "See also" section? Do Israel-Gaza conflict and Israel-Lebanon conflict actually belong there? Aren't they already linked to in the article? I am having trouble following what s/he is doing. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 12:56, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining all that. I compared the versions and looked at a lot of other diffs. I think that version of the intro he had was too long and it had too much information about the victims which didn't belong there. So I changed it back. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 13:45, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Check yours! :) Sarah Ewart (Talk) 11:39, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

On Naveed Afzal Haq, it looks like you introduced a couple of <ref name=foo /> tags where there is no named reference to link back to. Could you have a look? Thanks. - Jmabel | Talk 06:58, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

AfD Nomination: Science Fiction Studies

An article that you have been involved in editing, Science Fiction Studies, has been listed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Science Fiction Studies. Please look there to see why this is, if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you.

-TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 09:34, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Peter Schlumbohm cleanup

Could you be more specific as to what aspects need cleaning up? The article seemed OK to me when I wrote it, and I don't intend to pore through the styleguide on a fool's errand. Richardjames444 17:11, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Let us form the mighty alliance once more :-)

Hi Viriditas, now i've finished all my studies as well as my other projects, i'll be back on the 'pedia as i was before, with a vengeance. I'm trying to find a relevant image to mark the occasion. Nice to be back, and nice to see you again matey :-) James S 20:53, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Point well taken. Although, for a while i'll be working on Medicine / Physiology / Anatomy articles as i just recently qualified as a Physician. :-) James S 22:19, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Please state which keep votes are made from "socks"

Answer on my talk page. I have over 6-700 edits, Subhash bose has at least 1k, D-boy has over 500. Bakaman Bakatalk 23:25, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't mind the move, as long as the sock/anon note is made in bold.Bakaman Bakatalk 23:27, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Since I don't know how to make all the templates, could you also make unsigned templates for the delete votes taht match the keep ones? In the spirit of fairness of course. Though we disagree, I wish for this to be a fair vote, not a sockpuppet infested rathole (regardless of who's doing the socking).Bakaman Bakatalk 23:30, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Good enough. I made the concerned edits to the unsigned template on the anon IP's votes. I don't have any more concerns at this point. Thank you for making the sock part bold.Bakaman Bakatalk 23:36, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Could you explain what "crystal ball gazing" is? I tried to think about it (I saw it on another AFD), but I'm drawing a blank.Bakaman Bakatalk 01:17, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Regarding Healthy diet

Maybe it was the sentence "Healthy diet is both a concept and a problem and only applies to wealthy North Americans...", as well a the reference to Supersize Me, that lead me to believe the article was US-centric (rather than UK-centric). At any rate, I think the article is heavily biased towards the dietary problems of the Western World, particularly the US and the UK. Although I recently read that there are now about one billion obese people in the world, I still think that the 800 million people suffering from undernutrition and hunger should be featured more prominently. Burschik 06:55, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

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Was Atatürk a Muslim?

Thank you for your comments. I personally am not convinced that he truly considered himself a Muslim, although outwardly he made the appearance to be one (there are pictures of him praying). What his parents believed, is not relevant, in my opinion. I'll have to check his biographies for some detailed info, but the article certainly needs to address this question. Many people in Turkey believe he was an atheist. --Benne ['bɛnə] (talk) 10:08, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

No bother

I am not bothering, I am speaking of a current situation

much love--Jeyler 23:38, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Hippies

I dunno, maybe my observations are inaccurate. But the timetable is pretty telling; by 1967, "hippie" was dead for all intents and purposes, and the oldest of the boomers would only have been 22 by then. If you think it's right to characterize them in the intro as boomers, I won't argue -- that article is so god-awful that a minor quibble over 1945 vs. 1940 birthdays isn't too important. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 00:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I've answered your query on my own talk page. We really need to discuss the changes you made to the "hippie" article, because I don't believe they constitute improvements. Founders4 09:36, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

EddieSegoura

After today's sustained Eddie attack, I've created a LTA style page in my userspace similar to the ones on WoW, TCV and the other vandals. You can access it here. MER-C 12:17, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Your thoughts requested at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Dealing with EddieSegoura. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 15:21, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Homework

Good to see you back, Viriditas. Check out User:Axiomm and his contribs sometime and tell me what you think. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 02:26, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I wasn't thinking I was being ignored, no worries. Did you see User:Mostly Rainy? Yiikes! Got approved for VandalProof and got a barnstar from Phaedriel! —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 02:42, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Sequential edits to "Hippie" article

Hi Viriditas. During the past month I and several other editors (Pedant and Mombas, in particular) have carefully worked out several compromises regarding the lead to the "Hippie" article. Many of these changes were made in response to objections you registered a month or so ago. When you last entered into this discussion, you wanted citations for other items, stated differently, not the lead as it appeared (until today) in its present form.

I would appreciate it if you could make your approach a bit less precipitous. Some of what was written was sourced, and some was not--more a function of limited time than an unwillingness to do the sourcing work. To simply eliminate whole sections seems rash. And moving the Eisenhower quote and discussion of the seminal impact of the dawning of the Vietnam War to the 1963-66 section weakens the lead, making it choppy and causing a failure in transition.

Finally, fifteen or sixteen sequential edits (rather than a single edit worked out in preview) makes the changes nearly impossible to track and compare. I've reverted to a previous edit for now because I believe the article has been damaged by these edits.

Can we discuss this please and move a bit more slowly, answering your specific objections and incorporating some of the changes you have made in a more incremental manner?

Thanks. Founders4 08:16, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Hippies

I have added a few small things to the Hippies article over the past couple of months, as well as to the article on Timothy Leary. I was one of the original hippies in San Francisco in 1967, and Timothy Leary was an acquaintance of mine, so these are subjects I know about! Keraunos 13:40, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia Time Stamp

Could you please tell me if there is a way to change the time stamp that inserts the time when you wrote a contribution to Wikipedia to reflect the time in your own time zone, and if so, could you instruct me how to do this? Also, can the time stamp be adjusted to account for Daylight Saving Time? Thank you. Keraunos 13:40, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks V

Thankyou for the congrats Mr V. And thankyou so much for taking a break from your wiki-break to come back and support me. I really appreciated you doing that. :) I hope everything is good with you and that we see you back on deck soon. Cheers Mr V, Sarah Ewart (Talk) 13:00, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Ken Kesey and MKULTRA

Ken Kesey's introduction to LSD during MKULTRA experiments while he was a student at Stanford had a major impact on hippie history. In fact it is hard to imagine hippies becoming what they became without LSD, and Kesey was intrumental in popularizing its use. I see no justification for removing this reference--once again Viriditas, it is an arbitrary deletion. Please reinstate it. If you do not reinstate it, I will. There is no excuse for not including relevant information in the article, your own prejudices aside.Founders4 04:38, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Hello

Hello, I on;y reverted because you are in a dispute with another editor that involves that policy, editing a policy while in a dispute with an editor that involves that policy can (And at the time to me) look like a bad faith messure. I am neutral in this and would like to remain that way (Other than advising Pendant on how to handle his dispute). I made a suggestion for mediation on the WP:OWN talk page. It may help to calm the issue down (Of course I would not mediate it since I'm now some what involved). I would recomend for the time being that you not edit the own policy until the dispute is settled (Editing it may cause the issue to flair up something by the looks you it niether side wants). I'm not pendant advocate yet (He would more than likey as me since I'm the deputy coordinator of the AMA and he is a advocate himself. I will also bring this up to the coordinator to see what we can do to help solve this issue before it blows up). Happy Editing Æon Insanity Now!EA! 16:21, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Featured list candidate

I thought you'd like to know that List of United States federal legislation has been nominated to be a Featured List. It needs 4 votes by October 2, 2006.

As I have labored hard on the article, I would appreciate your looking it over. You can find a discussion here: Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of United States federal legislation.

Thank you!

—Markles 23:08, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks, Viriditas, for your latest edits. Many of them do improve the article, as have others. My objections to elimination of the political aspect of hippie identity from the lead remain--hope we can work that out.

You are correct, of course, that The Hippie Museum is not the most impressive place from which to source. I suppose I am more concerned with the actual quality of what they have collected (generally quite high), but I do understand your concern. I am glad you will be converting the cite for Stewart Brand's 1995 essay on the libertarian aspect of hippie identity and its cultural importance--especially with respect to cyberspace. Good thing Time published it. The next time I see Stewart--probably at next month's Long Now gathering--I will consult with him for the purpose of adding to the "Philosophy/Ethos" citing. I'm sure he has written more on the topic than appeared in the Whole Earth Catalogue, and it would be great to include such references.

I initiated a request for a similar consultation with Stephen Gaskin (as you probably noted), since "conscious creation" was a frequent topic of discussion during his Monday Night Classes. Haven't yet laid my hands on his book by the same title--reference may or may not appear in this redacted version of class content.

By the way, this "we are as gods" and "conscious creation" stuff put hippies in direct conflict with traditional Christianity, especially Catholic theologeans who considered it blasphemy. (I'm sure Muslims would be even more offended.) We need a section that discusses hippies/spirituality/religion in more detail. Maybe I'll work on that next.

I found it necessary to revert GeorgeLouis' radical edit of the lead to your last edit. Hope you concur. His concerns re: sourcing echo your own. I'll try to get the page numbers you requested to you shortly. I own two copies of 'The Ultimate Frontier,' the early edition I cited and a reorganized (though unchanged) later edition. Only the later edition has an index, and about fifty pages make reference to the topic in question--unfortunately the page numbers do not correlate, so a re-read will be necessary. I briefly borrowed The Hippie Trip, so don't have it in my possession at present. Didn't note the page numbers, as I usually would in traditional footnoting, because I noticed that no one else in Wikipedia seems to do that.

It is my hope, Viriditas, that we will eventually be able to resolve our differences and mutually profit from collaborative editing efforts. Founders4 19:14, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

For the record, I wrote the above when I was still hopeful that collaborative editing efforts were possible. Your final acts of bad faith--accusing me of fraud after I spent an entire day adding citations you requested, in conjunction with your final disruptive edit--forced me to conclude that your actions constitute a form of trolling. You have editing skill, which I acknowledge. It is not, however, coupled with a willingness to work harmoniously with others. Founders4 17:48, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
By "disruption" you mean my penchant for fact and reference checking - a thankless task which uncovered misuse of citations and an onfoing culture of original research by yourself and others on the Hippie article. If demanding accuracy, neutrality, and verification are "trolling", then I suggest you have a lot to learn. Until that time comes, I will ask you to confine your comments to the article talk page, as you seem incapable of discussing the topic. —Viriditas | Talk 21:47, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Hello (Again)

Hello Viriditas, I have warned Pendent for violating WP:NPA but I must also ask to to adhear to WP:CIVIL. Some of your comments are boardline. Just wanted to give you a heads up (I don't want to see anybody blocked over this). Æon Insanity Now!EA! 00:07, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Apology

I apologise for my recent boorish behaviour. It would be good if we could work collaboratively rather than antagonistically. User:Pedant 21:32, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. User:Pedant 02:26, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
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