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Contents 1 Have a good xmas matey! 2 Canaen 3 Haizum 4 Comment on your remark on Freestylefrappe's page 5 Cauliflower sandwich 6 Nollaig shona duit 7 Haizum 8 Veganism 9 Happy New Year, and a bit of good news 10 thank you! 11 "Primarily" 12 Happy New Year 13 Vote for drug chart 14 Kalahuipuaʻa 15 Hello "Viriddy" 16 Sockpuppet of Shran? 17 Btw 18 Apology 19 Self category 20 thanks! 21 FYI 22 Adding cats 23 Hi there, my friend 24 I hear you man 25 Animal Liberation Front 26 Cleanage 27 Could you contact J.Spudeman 28 fried cauliflower 29 Greenbud caption 30 ArbCom elections 31 Please weigh in on request for semi-protection for Cannabis

Have a good xmas matey!

Sorry about all the stupid crap that's gone on, but - Marry Xmas anyway :-) Anjoy your wikibreak - hope to see ya soon! Spum 15:40, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Heh, wrong person :-/. Merry xmas Viriditas, i'll take a look at Vegan nutrition. Meanwhile - fancy helping me out with one of my projects? I need someone such as yourself to write some rules and guidelines up for a wiki i've started for game cheats and hints, i'd be delighted if someone as experienced with policy such as yourself would be able to draft up some stuff :-) </shameless> I'm happy to add people to My wikiproject, such as the person who posted on my wikiproject - bet, i'd prefer they registered a nickname so i am able to chat with them more "solidly".
Cheers Viriditas, have a Good xmas and new year, take it easy and have a nice wikibreak :-) Spum 14:52, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Have a merry Chrismas, Viriditas, even if all the evidence seems to indicate you are having a crummy Wikibreak ;-) —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 02:48, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

Canaen

I put a checkuser request up on Kelly Martin's talk page. Enough is enough. --Woohookitty^{(cat scratches)} 18:57, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Haizum

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Haizum. freestylefrappe 22:36, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Do not edit my comments again or you will be blocked. If you disagree with my statements present your own view of Haizum's behavior. freestylefrappe 23:53, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Excuse me, but that's not how it works, and your comments are a violation of WP:CIV. You either provide evidence (diffs, links) for your claims, or you don't make them. You were apparently misinformed about my role in Haizum's dispute. I asked you to correct your error, but so far you have refused. I am not required to defend myself from unsubstantiated claims. You, however, have the burden of proof. If you can't provide evidence for your allegations, then you should remove them. --Viriditas 00:18, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

Last warning. Do not spam my talk page, once again I ask that you explain your actions in the outside views section. I've seen Haizum's talkpage. Clearly harassment. freestylefrappe 00:19, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

Please provide diffs. I have never harassed Haizum at any time, and your claim appears to be spurious and without merit. Simply stating a claim over and over again doesn't make it true. Either provide evidence, or remove your claim. Thank you. --Viriditas 00:26, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

Comment on your remark on Freestylefrappe's page

Please bear in mind that the RfAr on Freestylefrappe is only in regard to alleged abuse of administrator powers and behavior inappropriate to an administrator. -- SCZenz 00:42, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

If the threatened blocking was indeed unjustified by Wikipedia:Blocking policy, adding evidence to Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Freestylefrappe/Evidence would be appropriate. Read through the instructions and try to follow the organizational format used by the majority of the entries there. -- SCZenz 00:50, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

I've probably given all the advice I ought to give, since I'm the principal claimant in the RfAr. If you have any questions, though, feel free to ask me—if I can't answer them, I'll send you to someone who can. -- SCZenz 01:00, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

You shouldn't remove accusations made of you, even if erroneous and/or irrelevant, from an RfC. Just state in an appropriate section that you disagree, and let the truth come out. If you really think the accusation is unjustified and its presence greatly bothers you, and you've already requested its removal, you can make a post to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents and see if someone will intervene to help. I can't possibly do so, being already in conflict with Freestylefrappe. -- SCZenz 01:19, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

You're welcome for the advice. I really think you ought to get help on the RfC problem from an unvolved admin. This is not a good time to start an edit war with Freestylefrappe. -- SCZenz 03:52, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

Probably Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. -- SCZenz 03:55, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

Cauliflower sandwich

So there I was stub-sorting food-stubs, when I come across cauliflower sandwich. I gotta say, {{afd}} was my first thought, especially after a google search didn't seem to indicate this was a big phenomenon. In fact, I get only 24 unique google hits for "cauliflower sandwich" - wikipedia. What's the scoop? —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 04:08, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

"Arnabeet Mekleh" gets far fewer google hits. My feeling is that the information should be merged to Cauliflower; I never meant to imply it didn't exist, but it seems a little esoteric for a page of its own. But I leave it up to you; I know you are a good editor. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 05:07, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

You're quite right that a google-search isn't the end-all be-all of notability; it's just a crude measuring stick, doubly so with concepts like this that might go by multiple names. Books, in general, are better than web pages, certainly, and any book references would help a lot. (Although I would add that I personally - this is just me - tend to frown on cookbooks as references, both because they tend to get people into the bad business of putting recipes into Wikipedia and because a lot of cookbooks aren't particularly well-researched.)

The actual results if the article were to be nominated for deletion would of course depend on who showed up that day to vote :-) If the article doesn't list its own references, by default what can be found in google or google books search is likely to be what people base their notability and verifiablity decisions on. (It's also the case the "non-notability" as a standard for deletion is not actual Wikipedia policy, so there are some who would vote "keep" just because it does provably exist.)

I just saw your latest addition to my talk page, and it does feel like moving the page to "fried cauliflower" might be a good idea - it's a broader concept and could include the pita sandwich. Personally I still think a section in Cauliflower would be better.—Bunchofgrapes (talk) 05:49, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

Moving articles to better titles is always ok in my book. But, I think merging the article with cauliflower would be like mergin Baba ganoush with eggplant, or Neapolitan sauce with tomato. I don't see a reason to do so, although you may have good reasons. Is there an issue with stand-alone Wikipedia articles on ethnic cuisine? I'm just asking, as I haven't followed the issue closely. --Viriditas 05:56, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

It's just gut feeling, partially based on my perceptions of the notability of fried cauliflower, and partially on the more transformed nature of Baba ganoush and Neapolitan sauce from the original vegetable. I could easily be wrong on both counts. But to me, it seems more like this would be having a separate page on "boiled potatoes". (I know, I know, if you count french fries and home fries and tater tots, we have at least three on, basically, "fried potatoes", so what am I complaining about?) —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 06:05, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

Fried cauliflower works for me. Thanks for the discussion! —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 19:11, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

Nollaig shona duit

Hi, Viriditas. Nollaig shona to you as well. Thanks for always being so friendly to someone whose POV you probably don't agree with! And I wish you all the best for the coming year. AnnH ^(talk) 00:53, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Haizum

He looks like a troll to me. Encouraging him just makes it worse, Viriditas. Better to invite everyone to step back, tone down the rhetoric and take it easy. My view is that Wikipedia works a lot better when editors take "revert bad edits, ignore trolls" as their motto, and try to stay cool when the editing is hot. I tend to think that those who start dispute proceedings are doing it less to resolve disputes and more to get their jollies from the process, because it's so easy simply to ignore someone who's pissing you off. Anyway, happy holidays to you. -- Grace Note.

Veganism

Hey man, I was just wondering what cm as an edit summary means. Thanks :) - FrancisTyers 11:04, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Happy New Year, and a bit of good news

Hi there Viriditas, have a nice new years, hope to see you editing again after this festive period! Well, there's some good new; i managed to get on the blower to the user who was posting and he's agreed to for at least a few weeks, leave off the Vegan Nutrition page; So, in my spare time, i'm expanding and correcting the article. I posted a reasoning on the talk page of why the article is somewhat askew, but it's still got some okay fundamentals, but still for purposes of clarity, i'm going to rewrite the article.

So, see you soon matey. Spum 11:48, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Hehe, no problem, Mr V. Take it easy over new years :-) Spum 11:58, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Happy new years! What's your resolution? :-) Spum 02:11, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

thank you!

Happy New Years to you too! --Woohookitty^{(cat scratches)} 12:11, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

"Primarily"

I don't know why you were so rude to me in your edit summary. The research that I needed to do to come to my conclusion was to read the article. The article is about all kinds of things. It looks suspiciously like an attempt to tie in left-wing anti-Zionism with old-style anti-Semitism such as the "blood libel". I realise I've made a mistake though, and will remove the article from my watchlist. James James 01:05, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry you misinterpreted my comment. I don't see anything rude about saying, "do a little research". Wikipedia is all about research. --Viriditas 01:06, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

The intro to the article clearly doesn't match the contents. No amount of research will fix that! Anyway, I'm acquainted with Phyllis Chesler's views. I'm not taking a standpoint on the "new anti-Semitism". I think that some on the left have gone way beyond the pale but I also think that criticism of Israel's policies is not necessarily anti-Semitic. But what I also think is that the article as it stands seems to be about all kinds of contemporary anti-Semitism, rather than being restricted to the "new anti-Semitism" as described by the likes of Chesler. Really, the article should consist only of descriptions of incidents that have been described as anti-Semitic of the new kind, not of any and all incidents, because doing the latter tends to imply that leftists were involved in the latter. If it were to be about all kinds of contemporary anti-Semitism, it should be titled "Contemporary anti-Semitism" and the intro expanded to make it clear that leftists might burn the odd flag at demos but they do not, except in rare and isolated instances, attack or molest Jews. However, I recognise that my idea of what would be neutral and yours differ, and you can outrevert me easily. It's a pity you chose that route rather than discussion but I don't mind. There are plenty of other pages to work on where I can more readily achieve the aims of Wikipedia. James James 01:23, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

And if I remember correctly not even Chesler begins her discussion of new anti-Semitism with leftists. Here she begins her discussion with the "surreal" level of anti-Semitism in the Muslim world. Her thesis is that the left has adopted the virulent anti-Semitism of the Muslim world. She would not say that the new anti-Semitism was primarily of the left, but was shared between left and Muslims, as your article in fact does imply by strongly connecting the two. Perhaps you should have chosen some other "research" for me to do, because Chesler, at least, seems to support my standpoint that the label is also aimed at the left, as well as at Muslim anti-Semites. James James 01:30, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Happy New Year

Thanks for the new year wishes! I hope you have a fantastic year ahead. Sarah Ewart 01:39, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Vote for drug chart

Hi Viriditas :) Happy Holidays and Happy New Year :) I was wondering if you might be up to voting for my psychoactive drug chart on Wikipedia featured picture candidates? --Thoric 18:49, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Kalahuipuaʻa

I've never been there. I googled up various images of that fishpond, and the picture seems like it MIGHT be that fishpond, but I can't be sure. Safest thing would probably be to just label it "Hawaiian fishpond" and let users identify it. Zora 06:48, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Hello "Viriddy"

Hey Viriditas, i little side-note here. My daughter's been watching me do some edits on the wikipedia, and she saw that i had chatted to you and that you "have no name picture", so she made you one! Be sure to leave me a note wishing her thanks (kids these days eh), her name's Stephanie (Well, english name ;-)). Spum 21:07, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Okay pal :-) Mr Spum 13:18, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Sockpuppet of Shran?

Hello, I am currently being harrassed by User:Gamaliel because you tagged me once as a sockpuppet of Shran. Please provide some conclusive evidence, and or remove your tag. I think that if you examine my record more closely you will see that no sockpuppetry has occured. This has gone on just way too long. THank you. 24.0.91.81 02:12, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Btw

Willmcw is now known as User:Will Beback. --Woohookitty^{(cat scratches)} 06:25, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Apology

Sorry I changed You sig. Unfortunately, I did have to tally you on my future RFA list as a mistruster. --Eddie 11:14, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

I see You took Your name off MY RfA mistrust list. I need Your feedback, could You please Email Me? Thanks. -- Eddie 13:46, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Self category

Hi I noticed you setup the self-populating category Category:WikiProject_Hawaii by way of the project template. I'm trying to do the same thing for the WikiProject Alaska, however I can't seem to get it to work. I was hoping you could perhaps see if I had a typo or some suggestion that would help us out? Thanks. —akghetto ^talk 08:40, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

• [Empty Category list]
• [The template in question]

thanks!

Hey, i didn't actually know :-/ Well, now i do! cheers mate :-) The magical Spum-dandy 14:49, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

FYI

FYI, Wikipedia:Requests for CheckUser #CantStandYa (talk • contribs • page moves • block user • block log). -Will Beback 08:13, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

There is no doubt in my mind that user:24.0.91.81 is the same as user:155.84.57.253. -Will Beback 04:52, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Adding cats

There is no automatic way to do it at the moment, though you could just paste it in each time. Martin 10:13, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Hi there, my friend

Hey there Viriditas! You may notice who i am, but if you don't, it's me, Spum. I recently made a new username because i'm attempting to use this one as a fresh start. Anyway, hope to hear from you soon! Take care mate :-) J.Spudeman 20:47, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

I hear you man

I understand what you're saying. The guy/girl in question is following me around in my edits, editing pages that I edit and that he/she has never edited before, and marked an article Afd before it was even edited. That seems WP:POINT to me, and don't know what else to do than to call him/her out on it, as nobody on the Admin side seems to be willing to help. Worse yet, he/she is an admin. I'm on my own, and here you show up and are critical again. Doesn't feel good. I just want to be left alone to edit pages, and not be followed in some sort of weird retaliatory fashion. Morton devonshire 04:22, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

I have redirected the page to Free Mumia Movement, in an effort to try to find some balance. My hope is that editors will discuss the political phenomenen which is the Free Mumia Movement, which is larger than the man himself and his case. Please help me to do this by removing the Afd and other tags. Thanks. Morton devonshire 05:18, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Animal Liberation Front

Why did you put the current event template on the Animal Liberation Front article? -Localzuk (talk) 12:38, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Cleanage

Hey there, my good friend! I've been going through Body Mass Index, cleaning it up a bit; think you could do me a favour and tell me if it's all wikified please? Also, the sections below "Usage" are ones i have not cleaned up yet, so wait until i have done them before checking :-) J.Spudeman 16:56, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Could you contact J.Spudeman

The IP he was using was autoblocked from a previous user, so he freaked out and said he was leaving on his talk page. I emailed him. Could you email him? Find out what it tells him when he tries to edit (it should be like #45603) or something. Let me know and I can unblock him. Autoblocks only last 24 hours, so he might be unblocked already. Not sure. --Woohookitty^{(cat scratches)} 11:28, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

fried cauliflower

Sure. I saw "cauliflower" put it in vegetable-stub, but it can be in cuisine too. Kerowyn 00:21, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Greenbud caption

Hey, just double-checking that you can vouch for that greenbud caption Sweet Tooth #3, a fourth generation, 3rd backcross to Sweet Pink Grapefruit mother. =) -SM 20:12, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

ArbCom elections

Thank you for your kind words, and for your support! I'll need that luck... Jayjg ^(talk) 22:48, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Please weigh in on request for semi-protection for Cannabis

The request is meeting resistance, and I am arguing special circumstances. -SM 13:26, 27 January 2006 (UTC)