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Contents 1 Buffalo * 8 2 MoS(LoW) 3 List of fictional people who were cremated 4 DYK hook 5 Offensive comments by famous people 6 DYK replacement 7 Toy safety 8 3RR on Template:Did you know 9 Toy safety 10 An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Toy safety, was selected for DYK! 11 An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Rouse Simmons, was selected for DYK! 12 featured topic "constellation" icon 13 Tempest Prognosticator 14 BJAODN 15 Cock throwing 16 Breastfeeding 17 Orphaned fair use image (Image:Phantasie III Human.PNG) 18 boxes

Archive 10 – Posts from December 2006 to February 2007

[edit] Buffalo * 8

It has to be done, and I've done it for you. I recorded the spoken version of Buffalo buffalo...for you. :) --Caninedoubletake 00:41, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Just got to listen to the whole thing. You've done a fantastic job - well done! violet/riga (t) 14:34, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MoS(LoW)

Any thoughts on Wikipedia:Manual of Style (lists of works)? Sorry to repeat, but it's been very quiet there, despite my requesting comment at literally a dozen top-level pages! Humble thanks :) --Quiddity 21:45, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Np at all on reply delay :)

A few months ago Radiant went through a number of guidelines, marking them either historical or accepted. He marked WP:LOW as accepted. I was wondering if I could simply mark it as accepted again? (because I posted notices for feedback in about a dozen prominent/pertinent places, but have got almost no replies since mid-October). Thanks again :) -Quiddity 20:55, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of fictional people who were cremated

You sent this to VfD in August of 2004. It's still around. Someone tried to delete it recently using the new WP:PROD process, but it's ineligible for that. Since I see you're around again some, I suggest you take it to AfD again. I bet it gets deleted now. The community is a lot more deletionist on the whole these days. - crz crztalk 04:56, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DYK hook

That's a really nice hook you wrote for the Rouse Simmons article. I made the comment there that you "get it" and thought to share some humor that I almost posted on the DYK suggestion page:

• ...that the Mediterranean mantis is capable of virgin birth? -- self nom House of Scandal 20:05, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
  • This hook may be too short, interesting and sensible. We may want to go with "..that the Mediterranean mantis is a mantis, is from the Mediterranean, eats flies but will also eat things which are not flies, has six leg-shaped legs, and is not generally considered a member of the dolphin family?" House of Scandal 20:57, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Nice one! It feels good to get something into DYK after a long hiatus. violet/riga (t) 23:22, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Offensive comments by famous people

Sorry that your article was deleted. I'm not sure if I would have said keep, but it's astounding how many people "voted" on it as if it were a list. It's just still more proof that some people don't look at the articles on AfD, they just go whichever way the wind is blowing. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 22:45, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK replacement

The hook for your DYK suggestion is fairly obvious. I mean, toy safety laws are there for a reason. So children don't get hurt! Another admin had told you the hook was not very appealing/interesting, and that itself is sufficient reason to deny a DYK hook from being on the Main Page. I don't appreciate the fact that you replaced a DYK on Next Update with that of your own. If yours had been missed, then it would have been okay. However, we already stated the problem with the hook, and unless you were able to find a more interesting hook (adding that bit at the end didn't really help), it should not be on the Main Page. Nishkid64 23:47, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Toy safety

Nice and interesting article, but: If an entry is disputed, don't add it to the template until the problem is resolved. Cheers, --Camptown 23:48, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't see it as an acceptable dispute and that user has not responded, hence it being a valid entry. violet/riga (t) 02:09, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

I do not feel that self-selecting is a valid option. I was away over the weekend and could not respond. Also many admins agreed that it was not appropriate, thus it was not selected by them. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 02:27, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Self-selection is acceptable and certainly does not warrant a wheel war - please discuss this further. Your objection is invalid as it is plain false and other admins did not add it simply because they saw the words "object" as a reply and not necessarily because they agreed with it (else they'd have commented too). violet/riga (t) 02:28, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Which user? Nishkid64 02:25, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, I agreed with what Blnguyen said and I didn't respond. If he said something I agree with, I'm not going to drop by just to repeat what he said. We already gave you a sufficient explanation. Unless you can radically warp the hook to make it more interesting (find something in the article), it will not be on DYK. Nishkid64 02:33, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

If you agreed with him then you could easily have responded to my reply to him rather than simply ignoring it. Sorry but you are not in charge of DYK and do not have the final say in what happens there. I believe it should be there, is a good article, and has a good hook - just because you don't doesn't mean it shouldn't be there. What is the problem with it actually being there in the grand scheme of things? Seriously? violet/riga (t) 02:35, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Very simply because it was discussed and you didn't get your way so you put it up anyway. That's why there was a discussion with generally a consensus against self selecting. What's the big deal with it not being there. Reverting it back in twice is rather innapropriate. - Taxman ^Talk 02:42, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Can you at least re-write the hook to make it more interesting? It's pretty lame, and that's the whole point. It states the obvious. How about: ...that many toy safety problems have arisen when babies play with toys intended for older children? I'll see if I can find something better. Nishkid64 02:43, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

The deaths of babies and children and millions of products being recalled isn't interesting? I'm sorry but that's where I'm lost. violet/riga (t) 02:47, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Did you know should have a hook that is appealing/interesting. I think it's a given that toy safety issues have resulted in many deaths over time. Moreover, what do you think about my proposed hook? Nishkid64 02:58, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Please note a discussion at WP:DYK here. violet/riga (t) 02:47, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

I think that it is too short and doesn't convey that gravity of my hook, not mentioning the fact that countries impose standards that are frequently not met, the millions of toys recalled. It is written passively, "problems have arisen" does not convey the idea of death. I thank you for your attempt at a rewrite, but think that mine is better. I'm trying to think of an alternative wording at the moment, and am finding it difficult to improve on what I think is already more than acceptable. violet/riga (t) 03:03, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 3RR on Template:Did you know

Any more reverts will lead to you being blocked for violation of the 3RR. Naconkantari 02:41, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

People should talk then, as they've violated the far more important WP:1RR. violet/riga (t) 02:43, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Toy safety

Thanks, it was a funny one in that only the battery on the back of the toy showed up on the x-ray. I assumed that he'd just swallowed a watch battery. Was a big surprise to see Simba staring back at me when we removed it! Nice article, BTW, as usual! -- Samir धर्म 05:44, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Toy safety, was selected for DYK!

On January 15, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Toy safety, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! See, a better hook, and now it's on DYK. =) Nishkid64 16:10, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

By the way, it's best to check modes before dealing with Main Page imbalance. I removed an ITN headline to balance the Main Page, but apparently, I only made it worse for those people working in 1024x768. Nishkid64 21:10, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Rouse Simmons, was selected for DYK!

On January 17, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Rouse Simmons, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 21:19, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] featured topic "constellation" icon

I really like the Image:Cscr-featuredtopic.png icon that you uploaded, and I was wondering if you could design a version of it to be used for candidates (like Image:Cscr-candidate.png) and failed candidates (like Image:Cscr-former.png). Those two would be useful for talk page tags so that FT nominations could be easily distinguished from FA nominations. Thanks! --Arctic Gnome 03:44, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks - I'll take a look when I have some time soon. violet/riga (t) 22:44, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tempest Prognosticator

I added an image which I think is old enough to be PD but too crappy for the mainpage. - Tragic Baboon (banana receptacle) 21:41, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that - I was considering doing the same but never have confidence in the whole copyright status of images! violet/riga (t) 21:51, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] BJAODN

Have been trawling through the Bad Jokes pages and I just wanted to say I thought you handled the conversation about the HANS device brilliantly. You displayed an enormous amount of class. Coricus 11:06, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks - that's a very nice thing to say. It did get rather tedious but at least it was easy enough to fix. violet/riga (t) 11:37, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cock throwing

Thanks. I'd never heard of it either until I wrote The Four Stages of Cruelty. By the way, I've suggested Tempest Prognosticator for the April Fools Day DYK (because it sounds like it should be one, especially with the nom you've written), you may like to comment here. Cheers, Yomangani^talk 23:07, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that - I've commented there. violet/riga (t) 23:29, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Breastfeeding

• After some fiddling around, I've begun making progress in cleaning-up Breastfeeding. Since you had such a significant role in the article's original improvement drive, I'd appreciate any comments or suggestions you might have as I try to bring it back to an FA-worthy level. No hurry - I have lots to work on..... Thanks much. -- MarcoTolo 04:27, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:Phantasie III Human.PNG)

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[edit] boxes

Wikipedia is not a design contest. Whatever your affection for colouring an entire template purple - using inline styles can often conflict with stylesheets causing horrible colour clashes, and possible illegibility. See also Wikipedia:Accessibility#Style and markup. ed g2s • talk 11:06, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I am aware of that guideline, but having a plain white box is not good aesthetic design and makes it far less clear. Once reverted please ensure that you start discussions without going on an edit war - you've tried this before on various templates and I'm sorry but you are not right to do so. I will reflect on your compromise edit. violet/riga (t) 12:26, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

The "plain white box" which is "not good aesthetic design" is the de-facto standard for infoboxes. If the community felt they were either unaesthetic or unclear something would've been done about it by now. If you think that using purple makes it more clear then I couldn't disagree more. If you feel there needs to be some contrast between the sections, a horizontal rule should be sufficient. ed g2s • talk 16:02, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

While you may disagree you can't then go and edit war to enforce your own preference. You are talking about de-facto standards but that is for infoboxes - this is not an infobox. While there are commonalities between other forms of templates too there are also lots of navigational boxes that utilise (very well I might add) colours. violet/riga (t) 21:14, 12 February 2007 (UTC)