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[edit] MediaWiki talk:Anonnotice#It needs to be moved up or over:
MediaWiki:Anonnotice is clashing with many of the top-right-corner icons for anons at the moment (see the thread linked in the section title for details). So it probably needs to be moved to the left. Per discussion in that thread, I'm taking the matter here for dicussion. --ais523 10:08, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Using an external editor on MacOS X and Safari?
Does anybody know how to make this work? Thanks! --BenBurch 21:01, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- Check this discussion meta:Help_talk:External_editors#ee.pl_on_Mac_OS_X. Or you could try writing your own little script, like I did for Windows: ExtEdit. — Alex Smotrov 03:58, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Purge squids on article lock
I suggest that when an article is locked, all squids purge their cache of the article. A vandal recently edited Sinbad to say that he was deceased, and then started sending out e-mails. As the e-mails spread, more and more people visited the article. It was locked and the vandalism reverted, but the people who clicked on the links in their inboxes still saw the text saying he was deceased, both on the disambiguation page and in the article itself, due to the caches retaining the vandalized versions. To those who do not know, if you are logged in everything (or at least, almost everything) is generated dynamically for you, but non-logged in users see cached content. A more general solution to this problem is to purge all caches of an article every time that article is reverted to a previous state. This will be a good step towards stopping readers of our encyclopedia from seeing any vandalism, as we tend to revert it quickly. Cheers, --Alterego 20:04, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Strikes me as a sort of Stephen Colbert + Web 2.0. GracenotesT § 00:13, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
- An article is purged from squids when locked -- that has always been the case.
- People following links to old versions, however, will see the old version because the link is to the old version. --brion 15:28, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
- It wasn't a link to an old version. I personally saw the old content, and when I logged in it switched to the new content. --128.138.114.151 21:14, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Table sorting
I have created the template {{sort}} according to current recommended practice at Help:Sorting, and used it at List of U.S. states by population. What does everyone think? I would like to see this used in all tables where the column should be sorted by something other than the visible text (persons' names, numbers of varying magnitude, etc). The template should probably be protected in that case, I already set it up with the /doc system in anticipation of this. --Random832 03:55, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
- One disadvantage springs to mind: consider a table like in Wikipedia:WikiProject Oregon/Admin where there are more than 2500 rows. If the {{sort}} template appeared on every line once, well there would be a lot of template expansion. Would it be that bad? I don't know. Judging by the new statistics in periodic table (
Pre-expand include size: 102013 bytes, Post-expand include size: 91248 bytes, Template argument size: 25690 bytes, Maximum: 2048000 bytes
) it looks like previous problems with template expansion size have been addressed, and it shouldn't bother the servers any more than not having/using the template. I really like the idea of separating the mechanism for sort order from the apparent text, as the tricks to do it are ugly, not to mention tedious. Sort isn't a bad name either, though I toyed with variations involving key and index. Great idea. —EncMstr 04:27, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Are there any monster tables like that in article space? It seems to me a table that large may be awkward anyway - the one you linked takes ridiculously long to run sort on. --Random832 06:05, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Kudos on a good new tool in the toolbox, but it needs categorized... special effects templates of some kind (per Mike Peel or David Kernow's reorganization of template categories), and your /doc page wasn't quite standard, which I just fixed up so it's close enough for the moment--but substing that new {{template doc}} template really adds to the pre-expand size, so the pretty stuff needs put in the doc page. That at least now gets categorized as a template documentation page. // FrankB 20:15, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
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The point of the template is to make tables that use it more easily editable (less extra markup) and to allow it to be changed when/if table sorting provides for a better way to specify the sort key. Substing it would be against the purpose of the template. WP:PERF is relevant here I think. --Random832 21:04, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Error message
I got this message in one article after posting a reference (scroll down until you see a red text). What does it mean and how do we I get rid of, without removing the reference? The colour of the error message was red, but when I tried to post it here, it turns black and puts a reference number after it. It also blocks any text written beneath it. --Thus Spake Anittas 22:23, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
- It means your using reference code wrong. This is more of a issue for the village pump, FYI. — Moe 22:29, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
- Okay, well; I don't know in what way I am using the source wrong. Can someone point it out to me? This is not the first time I'm posting sources. --Thus Spake Anittas 22:57, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
- See my edits to Battle of Vaslui, they seemed to fix it. Not sure what else I can say. :) — Moe 23:02, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
- Okay, well; I don't know in what way I am using the source wrong. Can someone point it out to me? This is not the first time I'm posting sources. --Thus Spake Anittas 22:57, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Stop scripts from running in IE
Hi, Does anybody know how to stop scripts in my monobook.js from running in Internet Explorer. I am using Firefox and when I use IE7, the scripts don't work and sometimes error message popup saying there is a script error. So is there a way to make scripts only work on Firefox but disables when IE is running on Wikipedia? -- Hdt83 | Talk/Chat 23:47, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
You can put a check for the browser around the inclusion of the scripts that don't work in IE:
if (navigator.userAgent.match(/MSIE/)) { importScript('Example.js'); }
This should work for matching Internet Explorer. Mike Dillon 23:52, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Idea for alleviating vandalism
I have an odd idea for alleviating some of the pressure of vandalism on the quality of wikipedia. Would it be possible, once an anon IP were blocked for vandalism, to put a cookie on the anon's computer which disallowed further editing from that computer without signing up for an account? Obviously the more computer literate and determined vandals would figure it out and delete the cookie, but I wonder if it wouldn't make a difference? --Bmk 03:04, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- Well, in all likelihood people would not be happy with an eternal cookie. However, the real problem is that it would require the user to attempt to edit after being blocked. Since only a few do (which triggers the autoblocker anyway), it is not all that effective. And soon it would be all over the internet on to delete your cookies. I would say it is not worth it. Prodego talk 03:08, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- Fair points - I suppose it would only help for repeat offenders, which, if you are correct, are few. --Bmk 03:25, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] How/When will an update of the interwiki map occur?
Hey guys, I was wondering when the latest version of the Interwiki map will be rolled out to the Wikipedia, Wikibooks, etc. databases, or even if there's someone here who might be able to speedy this process along. It's been a few months (I believe) since we changed the address of our wiki from .net to .org within the interwiki map, and we've been hoping that the change would soon be reflected here so we won't have to worry about the various server maintenance kinks on our end that seemingly always manage to break the redirect when we're not looking. I don't mind waiting, but it'd be great to know when we can expect this update to take place if it's possible to find out that information. Thanks! echelon talk 06:24, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Diff not displaying correctly
I just made an edit to Buffy video games with these changes [1] (this is using a diff between my edit and the previous previous previous edit). However, the diff between my edit and the previous edit is showing this [2]. Any reason for this? --- RockMFR 14:37, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
- Hmmm, it's correct now. Whatever :P --- RockMFR 21:05, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] User page strangeness
My user page has gone very strange today. Not a problem, as I can fix it and improve the layout, but I a) wondered why, b) wondered if the cause may have caused other problems. Rich Farmbrough, 14:19 16 March 2007 (GMT).
- I did a preview with {{babel}} removed and it looked pretty good. The babel template hasn't had a significant change since January 27, nor have any of the {{user en}}, etc. templates. You have a stray
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after babel, but that doesn't seem to affect the goofiness. Dunno. —EncMstr 07:03, 17 March 2007 (UTC)- It appears to be the {{user ang-0}} and related templates. if you look at the what links here, other users have exactly the same problem. Harryboyles 12:09, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- I've reverted the changes made on March 15 to the template and your page now appears fine. Then I reverted back with a change to see if that would work (it didn't). Drini removed links to non-existant categories from many of the babel templates and that seems to be the catalyst for the change. It appears to have affected everyone's pages. I've left a note on Drini's talk page. Harryboyles 12:28, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks very much, folks. Rich Farmbrough, 09:29 19 March 2007 (GMT).
- I've reverted the changes made on March 15 to the template and your page now appears fine. Then I reverted back with a change to see if that would work (it didn't). Drini removed links to non-existant categories from many of the babel templates and that seems to be the catalyst for the change. It appears to have affected everyone's pages. I've left a note on Drini's talk page. Harryboyles 12:28, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- It appears to be the {{user ang-0}} and related templates. if you look at the what links here, other users have exactly the same problem. Harryboyles 12:09, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] How do I find template transclusions that use a certain parameter?
Is there a way to find all transclusions of Template:NYCS that have parameter 2 filled in? Thank you. --NE2 00:10, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- You could require that when the parameter is used, it places the article in a certain category. Something like: {{#if:{{{2|}}}|{{{2}}}<includeonly>[[Category:Articles that use parameter 2]]</includeonly>}} Cheers. --MZMcBride 00:38, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- That's an interesting idea, but is it allowed? This would be a category, albeit temporary, that should not be on the articles. --NE2 00:46, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- Ignore all rules if you must. --MZMcBride 01:51, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- That's an interesting idea, but is it allowed? This would be a category, albeit temporary, that should not be on the articles. --NE2 00:46, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Preventing a page from being created
I've just deleted a page with an offensive page name. Is there any way of stopping that page being created? ( it's been recreated a numbrer of times already) Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 09:59, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- WP:SALT. John Reaves (talk) 10:09, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- Cheers. It's not ideal as the title appears on the list. But OK as a temp measure to deter the vandal. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 11:22, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- You could create (and cascade protect) a subpage in your userspace and transclude it there. Prodego talk 14:23, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- No, don't do that. Instead, use the already created Wikipedia:Protected titles. -- ReyBrujo 18:00, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- You could create (and cascade protect) a subpage in your userspace and transclude it there. Prodego talk 14:23, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- Theresa doesn't want it to appear on the list at WP:PT, which is why she may want to create her own page. Prodego talk 19:09, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- Cheers. It's not ideal as the title appears on the list. But OK as a temp measure to deter the vandal. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 11:22, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] HELP! Timeline won't go before 1800
I'm trying to promote List of Justices of the Supreme Court of the United States to Feature List status and the timeline won't go before 1800 even though I enter the start date as 1789. I have no idea what is going wrong, its the weirdest thing. Here is the code im entering:
ImageSize = width:800 height:auto barincrement:12 PlotArea = top:10 bottom:50 right:130 left:20 AlignBars = late
DateFormat = dd/mm/yyyy Period = from:01/01/1789 till:09/03/2008 TimeAxis = orientation:horizontal ScaleMajor = unit:year increment:10 start:01/01/1789
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Legend = columns:4 left:150 top:24 columnwidth:100
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And here is the error message that I'm getting:
EasyTimeline 1.9
Timeline generation failed: 3 errors found
Line 5: Period = from:01/01/1789 till:09/03/2008 - Period attribute 'from' invalid. Specify year >= 1800.
Line 7: ScaleMajor = unit:year increment:10 start:01/01/1789 - Scale attribute 'start' invalid. Date '01/01/1789' not within range as specified by command Period.
Line 16: PlotData= - PlotData invalid. No (valid) command 'Period' specified in previous lines.
It works when I put the starting dates as 01/01/1800. Any ideas on how to fix it or what could be the problem? Thank you. Warhol13 17:03, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- I already replied in Help talk:EasyTimeline syntax Nil Einne 13:56, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Images appearing higher than they should be and covering text/section titles.
For some reason images when loaded in my browser are hovering higher on the page than they should be. An example of what I mean. I looked at the links at the top of this page but found nothing that covered what I'm talking about. Can anyone help me fix this? It's really annoying. Veesicle (Talk) (Contribs) 17:32, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Hi Veesicle. You're using my script, right? This image problem is related to the script. I haven't diagnosed this problem yet, but if anyone reading this knows how to correct such a problem, related to programmatically inserting elements into the DOM, please do let us know. The image position is not always too high, and will correct itself (in Firefox) when one interacts with the page, usually. –Outriggr § 21:13, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- Ohhh, I see :) I'm such a dumbass, it didn't occur to me that it was related to the script. I guess I'll just put up with it, the script is far too useful to me for it to be worth getting rid of for the sake of things being neat. Thanks anyway. I'll just wait for a bugfix. Veesicle (Talk) (Contribs) 00:03, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
- Hi Veesicle. You're using my script, right? This image problem is related to the script. I haven't diagnosed this problem yet, but if anyone reading this knows how to correct such a problem, related to programmatically inserting elements into the DOM, please do let us know. The image position is not always too high, and will correct itself (in Firefox) when one interacts with the page, usually. –Outriggr § 21:13, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Template Images
I wanted to add Image:Larger undp logo.png image to this template on this page. BUt when i do add it, its huge! How do i scale back the image on a template? YaanchSpeak! 17:46, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, but Image:Larger undp logo.png is a fair use image, and our Fair use criteria establish fair use images can only be used in the article namespace, not in templates. -- ReyBrujo 17:54, 18 March 2007 (UTC)- Duh, I thought you wanted to put it inside the template! Hmm... let me see... -- ReyBrujo 17:56, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, the template hardcoded the image size at 300px. I suggest creating an optional size parameter, defaulting to 300 to keep compatibility. -- ReyBrujo 17:59, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Multicolumn
I just noticed that the multicolumn markers ({{MultiCol}}, {{ColBreak}} and {{EndMultiCol}} don't seem to be working anymore. Is that an error or have they been replaced by another method? Robotman1974 19:19, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Duplicate Headings
(copied from Talk:Main Page Nil Einne 19:26, 18 March 2007 (UTC))
I noticed this while I was browsing talk:Usenet - when there are two identical headings on a page, clicking any of them in the contents list at the top will cause the browser to jump to the first instance of the heading (on the Usenet page there are two comments entitled "Google Groups"). I'm assuming this happens in all cases, but I haven't been able to test it... maybe I will try it out on my user page. I also don't know if this is a Wikipedia specific issue or whether it applies to all MediaWiki sites - I'm guessing it's more likely to be the latter, in which case there's not much anybody can do about it except tell them. --Tacetus 18:56, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- I tried it out at user:Tacetus/test and I can't figure out what on earth is going on... It seems to be random - I dunno. Meh. --Tacetus 19:03, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Oh. I added some more headings and I think it works after all. Weird.... --Tacetus
But that one on the talk:Usenet page is definitely broken... maybe only on talk pages? Let me just go check that... --Tacetus 19:06, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- I think I know what's wrong. Normally if the headers are the same, wiki software should direct you to Header_2. The thing is there is only one Google groups in that discussion. The other is Google Groups. Wikisoftware doesn't therefore recognise them as the same and it doesn't link you to _2. If you try it in the sandbox and change them both to Google groups or Google Groups or whatever, it should be fine (it is still in Wikipedia talk:Sandbox at this time in fact). In the case of Talk:Usenet, my browser, Firefox 2.0 also doesn't recognise them as the same so it works fine. You browser I presume isn't properly case sensitive so does think they're the same and has a problem. The only think I can recommend is a newer or different browser. BTW, this sort of discussion is probably more appropriate for perhaps Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) Nil Einne 19:13, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- (edit conflict x2) Please report this WP:VPT instead of here in the future. The problem is that if 2 or more headings are the same except for the capitalization ("test" and "Test", for example), the TOC with take you to the first one no matter which one you click. If the headers are exactly identical, it will take you to the right header. Test it at User:Llama man/Sandbox. I'm using IE 7 and this problem is present. –Llama mantalkcontribs 19:16, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- Forgot to say - I use IE7 as well, maybe that's where the problem is. --Tacetus
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[edit] Moving a page
Can someone direct me to the right place. The page was created wwithout capitalization.Osakadan 20:53, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- You can request page moves at WP:RM. --Aude (talk) 21:15, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- For an uncontroversial move (such as the wrong capitalisation) and the title you want to move it to is blank or is a redirect to the page you want to move and this is the only edit, you can move the page yourself. See Help:Moving a page. Otherwise you can use Wikipedia:Requested moves. mattbr 00:05, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Pink box on "archived version" pages displays on "current version" too
The pink box displayed when you are viewing an older version of a page also appears when you are viewing the current version (if you pick the last version from the history page), such as this [3].
This really isn't appropriate to display and may be confusing to some people when they are in fact looking at the current version. What can be done with monobook.css, common.js or one of the other pages (or elsewhere) to make this warning not display on the current version of pages? --Aude (talk) 21:13, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- That is being discussed on MediaWiki talk:Revision-info. It would be hacky to do it that way, and it would be better to submit a request to the devs instead. Prodego talk 21:18, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Gif
Im trying to copy and past a .gif file into a powerpoint and its not working. Ive also tried saving the file and inserting it. Please advise.--68.42.172.103 03:27, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
- What version of Powerpoint are you using? A bit of Google searching implies that there is not consistent handling of animated GIF files in different versions of Powerpoint. If you are using Powerpoint 2003, this page may be helpful. Mike Dillon 04:46, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] MediaWiki:Booksources-isbn
I tried to add a link to ISBN on Special:Book source but the wiki link (i.e. [[International Standard Book Number|ISBN]]) didn't translate into a link, it showed up as [[International Standard Book Number|ISBN]] on the special page. How do I fix this? John Reaves (talk)
- Some messages use HTML rather than wikimarkup. Does writing it as <a href="/wiki/International_Standard_Book_Number">ISBN</a> work (it might not, some messages use plain text, in which ase a link is impossible)? --ais523 09:53, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] hello
i am wondering how to read articles on technical thing
thanks much i am pleased ur support
- For technical information about Wikipedia and MediaWiki, Wikipedia:Technical FAQ and the MediaWiki website may be good starting points. --ais523 18:39, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] having issues with the search function
72.130.163.87 19:29, 19 March 2007 (UTC) well, first of all, this is my first time posting on Wikipedia and I'm not sure if I'm doing some things wrong with posting.
Anyway, something is going on with the search engine because yesterday I was doing multiple word searches and it worked just fine, but today its not even working with two words. I've tried arm bone and then click the search button (pressing enter makes it go to the wiki article) but an error comes up saying: There was a problem with your search. This is probably temporary; try again in a few moments, or you can search Wikipedia through an external search service
I've tried a couple different two word searches, and sometimes it doesn't work with some one word searches. I don't know whats going on here because it was working just fine yesterday.
(self edit) Forgot to mention that I did clear cookies and cleared internet cache and it didn't solve it.
- Sometimes the search is down. It is down for all users, not just you. It will be back soon. Please note that the {{helpme}} tag is for use on your personal talk page, not discussion pages.—WAvegetarian (talk) 23:47, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
doh, didn't know that it was suppoused to be for the personal talk page. Sometimes the search works ok sometimes it doesn't, although I can't find any other posts talking about this search engine issue here. Anyways, thanks.
[edit] Test Templates and SandBot
Sandbot is constantly resetting a template change that needs a thorough test before updating the actual templates. An email last week (plus latest link diff) to user:AllyUnion has brought no clarity (answer) on why things disappear while work is in progress. The logs show a manual request has been placed, which flys in the face of the {{Inuse}} template, and the short time interval involved. Is there any way to block or shut this thing down for a while? OR AS I'M CURRENTLY SUSPECING... Is it wiping templates when the request is for the editing trial pages--a sort of shotgun effect, as it were? It really seems to not be running on a schedule, but kicks you in the gut when you're least expecting it. // FrankB 21:02, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
- {{X5}} is a sandbox, which is for short-lived experiments. If someone is repeatedly disturbing your editing there (the resets seem to be manual; someone is following the link given in Sandbot's edit message), perhaps you would prefer to experiment in your own userspace? E.g. at User:Fabartus/Sandbox? -- Eugène van der Pijll 22:09, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
- The point is some things need to be in template space, which is why X0-X9 had been established. These aren't experiments, but consolidations of seven templates down to one or two, and long overdue. I don't think anyone is directly asking for that page (or last week, pages) to be wiped, but that it's a side-effect. The use is short term... this is happening sometimes within 20 minutes of the last change... a ridiculously short time. // FrankB 22:33, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
- Just work on the template in a different place. HighInBC(Need help? Ask me) 22:37, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Nothing needs to be in the template space, just use a user subpage. Prodego talk 22:45, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] .svg map not rendering
Does someone know how to get Image:India annual rainfall map en.svg do display? Nichalp confirmed that this map was not displaying for him either. This is what I'm seeing currently. Thanks. Saravask 13:39, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
- Wow, that thumbnail gave me the strangest Squid error message I've ever seen.
ERROR The requested URL could not be retrieved While trying to retrieve the URL: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a7/India_annual_rainfall_map_en.svg/300px-India_annual_rainfall_map_en.svg.png The following error was encountered: * Socket Failure The system returned: (98) Address already in use Squid is unable to create a TCP socket, presumably due to excessive load. Please retry your request. Your cache administrator is nobody. Generated Tue, 20 Mar 2007 00:34:00 GMT by db10.wikimedia.org (squid/2.6.STABLE9)
- After a reload, I got a completely transparent 300x339 image (generated at 20 Mar 2007 00:33:51 GMT according to the
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[edit] Strange edit
I just got the strangest result whenever I typed in a response to a post on my talk page. After I typed the response which was "Yes, he was indefblocked.", the finished edit was "me" redirecting my talk page to my userpage despite me not typing that at all. [4] Can anyone explain what happened. — Moe 23:30, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
- Probably not. [cue spooky music] GracenotesT § 00:19, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Coping with transclusion size limits
Someone posted at Wikipedia:Requested templates asking for help with {{Episode list}}, in particular its use in List of ER episodes. when investigating, I learned of the template transclusion size limit. I popped on over to Template talk:Episode list and it seems others have run across the problem. I'm writing here to ask people's suggestions for working with this. Some options:
- Increase Wikipedia transclusion limit
- Subst the template into large articles
- Edit the template to minimize markup length
- Break large lists into subpages
What are people's thoughts about this? —dgiestc 22:19, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- Try the /doc subpage trick first. Here is the current size:
Pre-expand include size: 2045988 bytes Post-expand include size: 469088 bytes Template argument size: 669068 bytes Maximum: 2048000 bytes
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- If the post-expand size is the problem here, how about this: break the more algorithmic parts of this template into sub-templates, which are only called if needed. For example,
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- This would mean that {{nothing}} would have to be protected. Server load, not pretty, but it works. GracenotesT § 22:37, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
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- ParaCheck123 looks like an extremely cheesy name for a parameter placeholder. It appears as though a simple #if statement would have done well in its stead. GracenotesT § 01:16, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- ParaCheck is just a trick used so that changes can be triggered by a parameter being listed, but still left blank. For example, |Image= will trigger the screenshot layout, even if you don't have it filled out. Excluding |Image will switch the template to a no screenshot format. "ParaCheck123" was just something I thought wouldn't be a probable value for any of the variables, so it can really be anything that is not likely to be a value where it's used (Director, episode number, etc). I've suggested that ParaCheck123 be changed to "ʁ", which is also unlikely to be a value for any of those. -- Ned Scott 05:59, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- ParaCheck123 looks like an extremely cheesy name for a parameter placeholder. It appears as though a simple #if statement would have done well in its stead. GracenotesT § 01:16, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- It's not post-expand size that's the issue, it's the pre-expand size. My suggestion is to make a template that is a slimmed-down version of {{Episode list}}, something like {{ER episode}}, and then use much simpler syntax. I'm a pretty good template editor, but honestly I have no idea why the code is so complicated for Template:Episode list, and I can't begin to understand "ParaCheck123" throughout it. --MZMcBride 00:49, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Adding contribution link to user pages
I wish there were a contributions link on other users' talk pages. When I'm looking at a user's contribution history, like to look for a pattern of vandalism, I have to open "my contributions" in a new window, copy their IP and paste it in the new window's URL bar. It's a hassle. It'd be a lot easier to have a "User's contributions" link right on their pages. --AW 17:44, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- Try adding this to your user javascript file:
if (wgCanonicalNamespace.indexOf('User') === 0 ) { user = wgTitle.split('/')[0]; addPortletLink('p-tb', '/wiki/Special:Contributions/' + user, user + "'s contributions"); }
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- To my what? --AW 20:01, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- To monobook.js, assuming you are using the monobook skin. But I thought MediaWiki does this for you already? It does for me... Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 20:03, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- To my what? --AW 20:01, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Finding cities for your country using, UTC, UTC-5 and other timezones per WP:CCT
Can we sort [this list in alphebetical order. I've attempt to make a category but it doesn't appear to have the concensus of the community. The usefull category helped me sort through the cities and make the appropriate corrections. You may find it usefull to peruse cities that link to the different timezones. (ex. Got to UTC-5 and click what links here) There are however, limitations. One is that we can't browse in alphabetical order.
I did try to make a category for cities by UTC timezone but a CfD prevailed and it was removed... taking away a list of 5000+ cities categorized (see my back-up. There was not enough support for such a category.
Many cities currently utilize the {{template:Infobox city}} and have a link to the related UTC timezone. Use this to your benefit. You can find a list of cities by clicking the corresponding UTC timezone. And, if ever you feel like bringing back the category we will need at least 5 to 7 people to support this. GO to my project WP:CCT and start a section to voice your opinion. When we have enough people we'll start the cat. --CyclePat 23:00, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
- Regarding the alphabetization, on–wiki, as far as I am aware, no. You can use WP:AWB to load the what links here list, and you can then sort this alphabetically and work through them if you want. There is also a list comparer so you can have the timezone what links here list and the infobox what transcludes here list and find which articles are on both lists and use that list how you wish. My other suggestion would be to use a program like Excel, copy and paste the links and sort alphabetically. Hope that helps, mattbr 00:31, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Hey! Supper dupper! Thank you for the reply and the reminder on my userpage. I'll deffinatelly be checking into it and I'll give you my feedback at this location on how everything went. --CyclePat 18:54, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- If you want to see the work I did check out: User:CyclePat/UTC Timezone/List of places in the UTC-5 timezone. Thank you again. --CyclePat 20:21, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] DXF to SVG or something similar
I have (and I can create) quality DXF drawings that I could contribute with. My guess is that the preferred format for any technical drawing is the SVG format. Can someone confirm this and if so, where can I find a free application to convert DXF to SVG? Thanks in advance for the help. --ChaChaFut 03:23, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if Inkscape does it natively yet or not, but a quick google showed some promising tools like this. Good luck! - CHAIRBOY (☎) 16:29, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
- Do you know if this is freeware? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ChaChaFut (talk • contribs) 22:28, 16 March 2007 (UTC).
- Inkscape is free software and it can save in SVG format. However I do not know if it is able to open DXF file (which I do not know what is it) -- AnyFile 17:27, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- Do you know if this is freeware? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ChaChaFut (talk • contribs) 22:28, 16 March 2007 (UTC).
[edit] wpReason and implementation
I propose several changes to all templates in Category:Speedy deletion templates, except for {{db-meta}} and {{db-reason}} and redirects. Namely,
- The removal of the reasonlink parameter. This has been superseded by a change in {{db-meta}} that was suggested on the talk page.
- Making the the link to a criterion have a normal font size. E.g., instead of
(<small>[[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#G10|CSD G10]]</small>)
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- Encouraging the use of the wpReason parameter for admins, since it makes clearing CAT:CSD a bit easier.
I hope this proposal is sane, or at least makes sense. I would be fine with implementing it myself, iff there is consensus. GracenotesT § 16:47, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
- I'm sort of against this. - PatricknoddyTALK (reply here)|HISTORY 20:27, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- It just sounds silly. - PatricknoddyTALK (reply here)|HISTORY 20:29, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Special:Protectedpages
I've filed an enhancement request as Bug9326 to include a namespace selector on this page. Please comment on Bugzilla if you would like. Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 20:21, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- Looks like VOA upgraded this, just waiting for it to go live, thanks! — xaosflux Talk 01:49, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Template whiz needed
Please see Template_talk:User_iso15924#Feature_request and Template:Babel. Thanks! Xiner (talk, email) 03:10, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- What is it you're asking for? I don't think there is a way to prevent the level zero categories from appearing across the board without editing all of the level zero templates. Assuming that the userbox portion is kept, all that needs to be done is to remove the categories from the templates (which I've already seen being done by bots, cf. Template:User ang-0). If you're talking about suppressing the userboxes too, they can be redirected to {{void}}. Both of these things require editing individual templates, since the level passed to {{Babel}} is not a separate parameter from the language code. Mike Dillon 06:15, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- I took a closer look at {{User iso15924}} and made it suppress the category logic for level zero. The remaining Babel templates need to be addressed individually since there is not a meta-template from what I've seen. I just fixed Template:User ar-0, which was sort of a bitch because of RTL/LTR issues. Mike Dillon 06:25, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] BBC Code?
Is there any way to change editing to BBC code? --PokeYourHeadOff 22:01, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
- Do you mean BBCode?. If so I wouldn't hold your breath! BBCode does not have a universal standard. You may currently choose between wiki markup (rather similar to bbcode) and/or HTML. — xaosflux Talk 04:39, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
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Opps ya BBcode, sigh, I like BBcode better. Well I guess I can live with it. --PokeYourHeadOff 00:44, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] programmatic access
Hi, I'm writing an application that needs access to wikipedia data. For a variety of reasons, it would be really great if I could access the data programmatically. The two that top the list:
- I could then avoid scraping the front of the en.wikipedia.org sight, sparing your servers the burden and sparing myself the time necessary to write code that does such an awful thing.
- The data I get would be free of the html content that wraps it.
Note: my needs would be met by either of: a queriable web service... or a dump of some or all of the wikipedia content (which I would then download and use offline).
Can anyone point me in the right direction?
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Kierah 11:22, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- See m:dumps. MaxSem 11:35, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, and please ensure you meet the terms of the content licence (described at Wikipedia:Text of the GNU Free Documentation License) if you are using Wikipedia content outside of Wikipedia. mattbr 11:39, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- (WP:BEANS) There is also query.php or you can go directly to action=raw on a page. Don't abuse these, however. Live mirrors and such get themselves blocked ^_^. --Splarka (rant) 08:31, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Talk page blanking after edits
On two separate occassions, edits to Wikipedia talk:Railway line template have resulted in large parts of the discussion being blanked. See edit 1 and edit 2. The first edit was by me, and I assumed I'd just done something stupid, so reverted it. The second was by User:HandigeHarry, who assures me it wasn't deliberate (and I have no reason to doubt him). Could there be any reason for this?
NB - I've previously posted this on WP:HELPDESK, where it was suggested it might be a server glitch. – Tivedshambo (talk) 15:45, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- It could be related to this archive question. If it is, this could be a significant problem. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 19:56, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] New-messages bar appearing when I don't have messages
Twice today, the new-messages bar has appeared for me even though I don't have any new message. (I click on 'last change' and get a diff I've already viewed; when navigating away either the original time when it came up correctly or the time it comes up incorrectly, it's disappeared again.) Anyone know what might be causing this? --ais523 17:47, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- I don't know, but I'm getting them too, over the last several days and continuing now. Doesn't seem to matter which browser I use. If there's a trick to make this stop I'd love to hear it. — coelacan — 03:49, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- I'm adding myself to the list of people encountering this glitch. Anybody know what's up? AniMate 05:33, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- Me too, and I've been seeing some other artifacts (such as existing pages yielding redlinks). At a guess, there is discrepancy between the different servers. >Radiant< 12:37, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- I've been getting these fake "you've got mail" messages for days. The server always notifies me about the last edit to the page, including if it is a reply I made myself. (Running Win XP with IE 7.0).Valentinian T / C 13:16, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- Me too, and I've been seeing some other artifacts (such as existing pages yielding redlinks). At a guess, there is discrepancy between the different servers. >Radiant< 12:37, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- I'm adding myself to the list of people encountering this glitch. Anybody know what's up? AniMate 05:33, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
I keep getting these too, and was about to come here to complain about it... Hbdragon88 00:51, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- Radiant's explanation seems good, though I have to say that these false new message banners are much more annoying than any of the joke banners people were complaining about a few weeks ago. Do we have any answers on what's happening? AniMate 07:35, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- I am seeing this for ca 3 days now and with increasing tendnecy, today ca. 5 times.--Tikiwont 14:01, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Help with journal citation template malfunction?
Hi all,
Several of us are working on improving Wikipedia's range of taxonomic articles, by making stubs with references. To check that our references were OK before submitting them to Wikipedia, we made a master list of 4428 especially useful references to proofread. Unfortunately, the formatting of the references seem to fail after about a few hundred {{cite journal}} references. We could split the master list up and proofread the sublists separately, but maybe there's an easy solution that we've overlooked? Thanks for your time and help! :) Willow 22:54, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- I suspect that there is some limit to the number of times a template can be called per page, so yeah, go with subpages. It takes forever to load, anyway; I had to wait a full minute on DSL. -Amarkov moo! 23:02, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah there are Template limits. The stats for the current page are below:
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[edit] Which method of "includeonly" should I use on image copyright tags?
A while ago I started methodically reviewing the image copyright tags in Special:Prefixindex/Template:PD, standardizing them with Template:Image-license, and replacing the code <includeonly>[[Category:Public domain images]]</includeonly>
(or whatever the image category was) with the code {{#ifeq:{{NAMESPACE}}|Image|[[Category:Public domain images|{{PAGENAME}}]]}}
. Fabartus (Frankb) left a post on my talk page that seemed to indicate that the ParserFunction I use to replace the "includeonly" tag may not be portable to other sites using MediaWiki. I do not know and am entirely neutral about this; I could just as easily reverse the changes I've made to the image copyright tags with the prefix "PD." My question is: Is the ParserFunction not portable to other sites using MediaWiki? Thanks for your input. --Iamunknown 04:06, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- ParserFunctions requires an extension to be installed, and so a default install of MediaWiki will not include it. However, the installation is incredibly simple. Further, thousands of templates use ParserFunctions, so I don't think worrying about portability for any particular set of templates is necessary. Hope that helps. --MZMcBride 04:47, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- After an edit conflict, by the way: MediaWiki does not come with ParserFunctions; you have to install them as an extension. Of course, we have many templates with ParserFunctions, and I don't see why we shouldn't use them just because someone else doesn't. For example, the use of <ref> tags is not a standard feature, yet we use them. See Special:Version for everything that's not portable, per se.
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[edit] Section editing error
I've seen one instances today where section editing caused the part of the page that wasn't edited to revert to an older version ([5]), and one where section editing caused the rest of the page to disappear ([6]). >Radiant< 13:29, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- Weird things have been happening to everyone lately, from blankings to out-of-order revisions. It's odd. GracenotesT § 13:58, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] "Send new password" problems
Shocker: I'm sorry for editing this post, but there is a problem with the "Send new Password" function. I forgot my password, chose "Send new password", it said I'll get my password via email but I didn't. It's been 3 days now, I tried a couple of times to ask for a new password, but I don't get any email :\ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.18.88.109 (talk • contribs) 14:54, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Transwikification question
I installed a fresh copy of MediaWiki yesterday, and would like to be able to transwiki articles (keeping the history per GFDL requirements).
I notice Wiktionary and Wikibooks have transwiki enabled, how would I do this on my local one on 127.0.0.1??
I changed the settings per $wgImportSources using the interwiki links, but it didn't seem to work unlike the wikibooks example here.
If anyone could help me this would be appreciated. I've set up 2 of my own wikis so far, and they're going OK - they're not publically accessible, only used as an in-house encyclopedia. --sunstar nettalk 19:08, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Image:Foo_bar.jpg
If you try to go to a deleted/non-existent image page and the name has a space/underscore, the log link on that page is broken (see [7]). A quick search on bugzilla didn't give any results. Can someone familiar with the bug report system confirm whether or not this is a dupe? --- RockMFR 19:37, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- I requested an edit here that should take care of the problem. GracenotesT § 19:51, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- Ahh, I didn't realize that it was controlled by a MediaWiki page. Thanks for that. --- RockMFR 23:26, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] HELP
I accidentally changed my skin and really hate it now. Nothing I try will allow me to get it back to the default skin at all. I've had help from other mods and I've done the usual of going into My Preferencs and holding down Control + F5. I've deleted all my history and refreshed the page and shut the PC down but still to no avail. Can ANYONE at all help me. I will even let you have my account password so you can do it for me if you want! Yours Cls14 21:23, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- Hopefully this will help:
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- GracenotesT § 21:29, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- Yes I have done that before thanks. Just doesn't work. Anyone else got any ideas? I have seen on another pages that this is a common problem. Why don't they just get rid of the different skins? They seem to cause more trouble than good. Cls14 21:32, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- See the FAQ at the top of this page. This link is supposed to fix it. Removing the skins would be as popular as making everyone drive cars painted black. —EncMstr 21:47, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Maths symbols
I find when browsing articles which contain certain mathemical symbols (such as First Order Logic - the symbol beside the C in the A, B, C bullet points won't show) that the symbols don't show - rather, a small square appears in its place. Am I missing a required font? Thanks, 81.102.34.92 23:14, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, it's the "therefore" character from the mathematical operators set. Please see Help:Multilingual support (and [8]). -- Rick Block (talk) 00:39, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Display time remaining on active block
When viewing the block log for a particular user, is it possible to (a) provide some kind of indication that a block is currently active; and/or (b) display the time remaining (DD:HH:MM) for that block? Thanks. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 00:11, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- I really doubt that this change is going to get any priority by the developers. It seems primarily intended to help someone who has been blocked and is trying to figure out exactly when he/she can resume editing. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 21:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] UserPage creation
How do I create an UserPage - please direct me to an example of a well-written UserPage Tx, RS
- This is more an artistic endeavor than a how-to, other than clicking on "edit", but you have already created user:Rstrawn. Look at pages in, for example, Category:User en (English-speaking wikipedians). If you see something you like, edit their page (so you can see the source) and grab the corresponding wikitext. —EncMstr 01:32, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Odd diff
this diff shows a lot of other text that is not displayed in the article. Gimmetrow 01:04, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- That's because it was removed in the next edit: [9]. --MECU≈talk 19:18, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- Perhaps I should be clearer - the diff shows a lot of text in red which was not represented in the form of the page displayed immediately below the diff as the result of the diff. It's gone now, of course. Gimmetrow 19:27, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Registering on Other Wiki sites (Italian)
Hey I registered on the Italian Wikipedia, and I got the conformation email, and clicked the conformation link, and it my conformation was accepted. I tried to log in, and it said that my account couldn't be created because my school's filter wouldn't allow it or something... I'm at home, and there are NO filters that wouldn't allow it... so what's wrong? If anyone can help, reply on my talk page, or email me @: <email removed>
Thanks! Bryse 01:20, 22 March 2007 (UTC)Bryse
- This is the English Wikipedia. It's possible that someone here can help, but if you're having problems at another language version of Wikipedia, you may be better off asking there rather than here. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 21:20, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- If you got the confirmation email, then your account must have been created. If it was the Italian Wikipedia, the same issues would affect you here, so go ahead and try again. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 21:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Dorothea von Stetten Art Award
The article Dorothea von Stetten Art Award has a leading character I don't know. I am not able to move the article to Dorothea von Stetten Art Award. Can someone help? Greetings --Heiko A 09:03, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- I've moved it. In the move page, I just positioned the cursor after the first 'D', pressed backspace several times, then retyped the 'D'. I've also deleted the incorrect title. -gadfium 09:24, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Vandalism
How do I warn a vandalist which is not registered (only has an IP address - specifically 204.38.150.2)?
I am sorry if I posted this question on the wrong page, in the wrong format, etc., but there is a limit to how much a man should read and search just to ask a simple question.
Gidip 15:21, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- Have you read Wikipedia:Vandalism? IP addresses have talk pages too. —Remember the dot (talk) 15:28, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- You can post a message on the user's talk page, which in this case is User talk:204.38.150.2. Judging by all the previous warnings on the talk page and previous blocks it seems this user is a known vandal. I hope this helps, Jayden54 15:29, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Thank you both. Gidip 19:18, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Problem with subcategory
I just added the category Category:Villages in Chile to Category:Villages by country but it shows up under "V" instead of "C". Can this be fixed? For my own satisfaction, would someone explain how, even if you do it? Thanks--JAXHERE | Talk 17:32, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- Pipe the category-inclusion link to the sortkey you want (e.g. writing [[Category:Some user category]] on my userpage would sort it under 'U' for 'User:', but writing [[Category:Some user category|ais523]] on my userpage would sort it under 'a' for 'ais523'. --ais523 17:36, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- The vertical bar is a wiki all-purpose delimiter. For example, in template references, it separates parameters. In regular wikilinks it provides an alias. In category "links" it provides an index value. For categories, it's common to have many which need to be indexed different from the article name: The wiki magic word {{DEFAULTSORT:}} is useful. See the wikitext at the bottom of Steve Fossett for a good example. —EncMstr 17:48, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Template collapse/state control
Could someone that is good with controlling the collapse-ability of templates help with Template:Hidden begin? I tried adding a "state" to allow controlling the template to force open/close/auto (or default auto) but it doesn't seem to be working and I'm not very good with these collapsible things. Take a look at 2007 Colorado Buffaloes football team where I'm testing it. The 2007 Recruits should be forced closed. I know testing in the article space isn't a good idea, but I was sure this would work and it seems I was wrong. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. --MECU≈talk 19:16, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- According to the table at the bottom of this page, NavFrame div cannot have a custom initial state. In order to do that, you'll need to use collapsible tables. Cheers. --MZMcBride 19:26, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Strange happenings in Wikipedia
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[[Special:Whatlinkshere/{{BASEPAGENAMEE}}|what links here]]
This: {{BASEPAGENAMEE}}">[[Special:Whatlinkshere/{{BASEPAGENAMEE}}|what links here]] is what I see, again it might be my monobook stuff acting up. --Darkest Hour 19:51, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Autoblocks appearing in admin block log
Forgive me if this has been proposed before, but I would like to suggest putting autoblocks directly in an admins blocklog, it would make it far easier to check up on and the autoblock tool seams to stop functioning at times (as it has now). The block could be in the same format as the IPblocklist, but maybe with an addition to make it clear that it is an autoblock and not a manual admin move. Ryanpostlethwaite contribs/talk 20:09, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- While the devs are at it, it would sure be nice if the block log told me which IP range block is effecting a specific IP. HighInBC(Need help? Ask me) 02:29, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- Ohh, and it sure would be nice if admins could see deleted edits in a users contributions, maybe a different color? HighInBC(Need help? Ask me) 02:59, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- That last one should be doable after the 1.10 release, if VoiceOfAll's rev_deleted work is committed to the core code. However, the deleted contributions extension has to be enabled as well. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 03:19, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Scylla and Charybdis (the 'import a dump' Odyssey)
Hi, this is User:Mdob - again!
My home computer configurantion:
- Windows XP, pt-br, SP1;
- running an administrator account
- IE6;
- WAMP5 1.4.4:
- Apache version : Apache/1.3.33 (Win32)
- PHP version : 5.0.4
- MySQL version : 4.1.10a-nt - extension : mysqli
- phpinfo( ), PHPmyadmin 2.6.1-pl3, SQLitemanager 1.0.4
- MediaWiki 1.8.2:
- project name:MyPedia
- 2 accounts: WikiSysop and Mdob
- no Internet access from home, so I browse the Web in a Internet house (Sorry by the red link, I don't know how you call these things in English
My problem:
After one and a half year of tries, I still can't import a dump (Wikipedia or Wikia or watever) into my home computer either logged as WikiSysop or as Mdob
I've tried the:
and the
[edit] Scylla
If I run "iexplore.exe http://127.0.0.1/wiki/Maintenance/ImportDump.php" this message appears:
403 Forbidden - Microsoft Internet Explorer
Forbidden You don't have permission to access /wiki/Maintenance/ImportDump.php on this server.
Apache/1.3.33 Server at 127.0.0.1 Port 80
But I have permission! I'm running an administrator account!
If I try:
cmd cd C:\wamp\www\wiki\maintenance path=c:\wamp\php php importDump.php < c:\pages_current.xml
PHP bombs and shows this nonsense message:
DB connection error: MySQL functions missing, have you compiled PHP with the --with-mysql option?
Compiled PHP? Hello?!? This is Windows! Different from Linux, I don't have to compile programs to install them. I downloaded wamp5-1.4.4.exe auto-installer from SourceForge and double clicked it and installed it. phpMyAdmin runs perfectly.
- The permissions Apache is refering to are not the permissions you (on an administrator account) have; it's refering to the permissions Apache itself (running on a different account) has. You should check if the php files are readable by the account Apache is running under. About PHP, even if you are in Windows, it was compiled (by someone else in this case); either whoever compiled it didn't compile the mysql client code, or you didn't load the mysql module (check your php configuration, IIRC it comes with all the modules commented out; also note the configuration for the command line PHP executable might be in a different file than the Apache PHP module configuration). --cesarb 00:16, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- OK, I'm totally clueless about this. What files do I have to modify? Can you give names? I know zero about Apache configuration! are you refering to httpd.conf? Mdob | Talk 20:41, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- The PHP configuration is separate from the Apache configuration, and it's usually called php.ini; I have no idea where it's located on the Windows port of PHP. There should be two of them, one for the Apache module and one for the command line interface. Look for some commented
extension=
lines, the correct line to add would be something likeextension=mysql.dll
. --cesarb 21:30, 23 March 2007 (UTC)- Righ, I'm going to try this when I am back home (right now I am at the LAN house). Thanks. PS: don't delete this thread yet. probably I'll have more questions about this all. Mdob | Talk 22:24, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- Nevermind. I've uncommented all extension= lines in php.ini, wich screwed up my Mediawiki installation (error messages starting appearing showing my usename and password instead of the Mainpage). Nonetheless, thank you very much. I'll give up trying to install a dump (by now). Ok. You can delete or archive this thread now.
- Righ, I'm going to try this when I am back home (right now I am at the LAN house). Thanks. PS: don't delete this thread yet. probably I'll have more questions about this all. Mdob | Talk 22:24, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- The PHP configuration is separate from the Apache configuration, and it's usually called php.ini; I have no idea where it's located on the Windows port of PHP. There should be two of them, one for the Apache module and one for the command line interface. Look for some commented
- OK, I'm totally clueless about this. What files do I have to modify? Can you give names? I know zero about Apache configuration! are you refering to httpd.conf? Mdob | Talk 20:41, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Charybdis
But if I try to import a dump inside mediawiki-1.8.2, running "iexplore.exe http://127.0.0.1/wiki/index.php/Special:Import" and trying to import c:\pages_current.xml (the 6575KB doom wiki), this shows up:
Upload of import file failed; perhaps the file is bigger than the allowed upload size.
Please export the file from the source wiki using the Special:Export utility, save it to your disk and upload it here.
bigger than the allowed upload size???!!?!? This is lame. If mediawiki-1.8.2 can't import a mere 6MB dump, what to say about the esperanto and ido dumps, with 30+ MB each, not to mention the englishwikipedia 1.8 GB super-dooper-hyper-mega-jumbo dump... what is the logic in offering dumps for download if you can't import them?
I do can dump my personal wikimedia project (MyPedia) to Export.xml and then reimport it with Special:Import (So, the problem is not with the Special:Import feature)
Recapitulating:
- I can't import a wiki (not only the doom or Wikia or Wikimedia wikis - any wiki)
- I can't import through Special:Import (except only the small Export.xml files I myself create);
- I can't import through mantenance\importDump.php
- I can't even import through "php importDump.php < pages_current.xml"
I've already read the meta and Wikipedia help pages, and even some old pages like "How to become a MediaWiki hacker" and "Wikipedia:Database dump import problems". Nothing happened and I've already run out of ideas.
(*Sight*) sugestions, anyone?
- The upload limit is not a MediaWiki one; it's a PHP limit (to prevent denial of service attacks). It's usually a very small value (a few megabytes IIRC), and can be increased on the configuration file (but don't increase it too much on a public server). Also, I don't think Special:Import can import full dumps (its main use is to import single pages exported by Special:Export). --cesarb 00:16, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
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- It's the PHP one. --cesarb 21:49, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image transparency issues
Image:Us senate seal.png is acting up. It's transparent (ie, I added an alpha layer and removed the white stuff outside the circle, and it has the checkerboard), but it doesn't appear as such on Template:USCongressTerms. It's probably a transient quirk that no one can fix (and I tried clearing all sorts of caches), although if anyone knows what caused it, that'd be great. GracenotesT § 20:20, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- Fixed. I right-clicked the image, purged it, and then purged the template page, as well as adding a one to the end of the thumbnail name. One of those things worked. : - ) --MZMcBride 01:47, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- The background still appears opaque in Firefox... but no matter, it will be fixed eventually for me. GracenotesT § 02:12, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- Firefox crashed, and it was fixed! Of course, I have mixed feelings about that, but am glad that my cache was cleared... somehow. GracenotesT § 16:06, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Odd text appearing - howso
I'm really sorry in advance if this is a dumb question, or if I am asking it in the wrong place, but please take a look at J.R. Orci. I am trying to work out where that text at the bottom of the page comes from - the one that starts "Amazon.Com, Barnes and Noble, African American Fiction..."
I've looked everywhere I could think of, and am curious as to what I am missing.
Any help would be appreciated. -- Alucard (Dr.) | Talk 21:51, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- It was in Template:Writer-stub. I removed it. Prodego talk 21:53, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Thanks - it was odd, but I looked at another stubbed writer and didn't se ethe text, so assumed it wasn't there. Oh well. I'll know what sort of thing to look for next time! Thanks. -- Alucard (Dr.) | Talk 22:11, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Table help
Here's what I'd like to do, but can't: over here, near the bottom of that table, you'll see how Andrew Oliver is in a column by himself. He shouldn't be; he should be just to the left of where he currently is. Can we arrange that, please? Biruitorul 04:14, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- Have a look now: Is that what you wanted? —EncMstr 04:30, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Yes, thanks! Biruitorul 16:58, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Odd bug?
I seem to be getting a random "new message" notification for no apparent reason when there are no new messages on my talk page, and it's not the "practical joke" template, either. I can't remember the circumstances for the first time it happened, but today I prodded a few articles, added the templates to the user's talk page, saved the edit, and got a new message notification after saving the diff. MSJapan 11:44, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] You have new messages (last change)
I am getting the "new messages" notifier (orange box) once in a while and once i go checking for any new message i find nothing new. Do you have an explanation for that? -- FayssalF - Wiki me up ® 12:48, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- A lot of us have this problem, see above.It looks like nobody has a good answer at the moment. Valentinian T / C 12:53, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- (Edit conf) See the "New-messages bar appearing when I don't have messages" section above. I don't know if anything new is known. I'm seeing this too, and have noticed it often occurs in conjunction with the problem where a random older revision of the page is served (see WP:ANI#Caches_and_Page_Histories for example). -SpuriousQ (talk) 12:56, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks guys for your replies. I haven't paid attention to the thread above. Cheers. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up ® 14:24, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- In your case, your talk page received a number of subtle edits, any one of which would trigger the notification, but might be hard to notice without doing a diff. This one, for example, is a single word added in the midst of a long paragraph. In the last day, there were two other edits which added a couple sentences not at the bottom of the page. Perhaps you overlooked those? —EncMstr 16:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks EncMstr. Well, not really. I always make sure to check the history w/ much scrunity. Indeed, my case here is that i get the message notifier while i am editing or clicking on a link in order to browse an article. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up ® 17:08, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- A tempting explanation, but it wouldn't explan what happend to my talk page. I got the same message three or four times, and around five notices about a reply I made myself. On the positive side; today, it has only happened once. Valentinian T / C 16:52, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Cache coherency issue: has been happening for a couple of weeks now
There has been an issue with this for the last week or two. There is also a related issue where sometimes the page history is old, or the version of the page is old. It looks like there is an issue with the cache coherency of servers that sometimes delivers a stale page. The stale page issue can cause the "new messages" flag to be incorrectly evaluated. I haven't seen much discussion though on whether this is being fixed, or even if it has been logged as a bug. —Doug Bell talk 18:56, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Date and time disapeared
I used to have the date and time displayed in the upper right (which I found very useful in knowing how recent an edit is). This time has dissapeared. Does anybody here know how I can get it back? Thanks! -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 14:48, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Template talk:IPA
It was suggested here that this template should use a lang
parameter to indicate it does not contain ordinary English. But it is not clear what the right lang code would be. Please comment on the talk page of the template. Thanks, CMummert · talk 18:43, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Problem: Contributions Not Showing New Edits.
I don't know if anyone else has noticed this problem, if I go into my contributions, and the contributions of others', nothing registers. Does anyone know what's going on here? Acalamari 20:19, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, it's updating, but slowly. Is this a similar error to what happened with the watchlists a few weeks ago? Acalamari 20:21, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- Never mind; it seems to be fine now. I'm not sure if anyone else noticed the problem. Acalamari 20:45, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- Been happening for some time for me, usually updates about 30sec-1min. Matthew 20:48, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- Okay; I suspect it's probably the same problem as last time, as the watchlist did nothing as well. However, last time I only had a stuck watchlist; I still had updating contributions. I guess it was a delay in the servers or something like that. Acalamari 20:54, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- Been happening for some time for me, usually updates about 30sec-1min. Matthew 20:48, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- Never mind; it seems to be fine now. I'm not sure if anyone else noticed the problem. Acalamari 20:45, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] How to link to an image within an image caption?
This is the page where i'd like to add a link within caption text: Utah_Phillips
This is the current image with photo text from that page, into which i'd like to insert a link to an image.
[[Image:Utah bw sm.jpg|thumb|Utah Phillips]]
Here is the image to be linked:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:IWW.jpg
Caption text should say: Utah Phillips showing his IWW card
And clicking on IWW card should take the browser to that larger image of the card.
I try to do it like this:
[[Image:Utah bw sm.jpg|thumb|Utah Phillips showing his [[Image:IWW.jpg|IWW card]]]]
But Wikipedia embeds the image, rather than displaying the link to the image. A trick that i haven't yet learned, can anyone please help? thanks! Richard Myers 21:06, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- Use [[Image:Utah bw sm.jpg|thumb|Utah Phillips showing his [[:Image:IWW.jpg|IWW card]]]] . Note the colon. Prodego talk 21:11, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Thanks, that worked great! Richard Myers 23:34, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Cropped Top
I noticed the entire top of Wikipedia is cropped. Even the globe! The Sign text and icon sure could use some space down as well.
Please advise if this needs to go elsewhere to report.
--RonEJ 23:40, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Monobook.js malfunction
Hi, could you please fix my monobook.js for me. There is a malfunction causing all monobook functionality to disappear. It only happens from within my account. Please, help! zero » 03:26, 24 March 2007 (UTC) Monobook is back up again! zero » 04:29, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
- Excellent! That certainly is a large and complex monobook. --Iamunknown 04:34, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] wikitable
Did someone change the way that wikitable works? All the "cell borders" appear to be gone to me. Am I having a personal problem or was a change made? If a change was made intentionally, can it please be reverted? I think that this class is used in too many places for it to be changed arbitrarily. --After Midnight 0001 05:20, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
- Does it still look screwed up after following WP:PURGE and WP:CACHE? Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 05:34, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
- Believe this is due to a recent change in the site-wide CSS files. I brought up the concern that it would most likely break in IE6 at MediaWiki talk:Common.css#Wikitable changes, but the change has not been reverted. I'll add an {{editprotected}} and link to this posting as a followup. Sorry for the breakage. Mike Dillon 05:49, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Spread sheet - entry of data
Is it possible to create a spread sheet and allow people around the world to enter text information into the various columns?
I want to be able to create a spread sheet with about 150 words and phrases in English and allow people around the world to translate the words and phrases into their native languages of Arabic, Bengali, Finish, French, German, Greek, Hebrew, Hindi, Italian, Japanese, Mandarin, Portuguese, Russian, Spanish, Swedish.
A sample of the spread sheet can be viewed at the following URL.
Translation Spread Sheet
Lpscal 06:51, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
- You could make a table
header 1 | header 2 | header 3 |
---|---|---|
row 1, cell 1 | row 1, cell 2 | row 1, cell 3 |
row 2, cell 1 | row 2, cell 2 | row 2, cell 3 |
and ask the people at Wikipedia:WikiProject Philately to fill it in. —Ruud 12:00, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Justify paragraphs
I like the way articles are displayed with justify paragraphs, it greatly enhances appearance and readability. A major drawback, however, is that all pages are displayed that way and e.g. histories do look a lot worse with justified "paragraphs", b/c the diff selection buttons are not vertically aligned any more etc. My question: Is there any workaround so that only pages in article namespace will be displayed with justified paragraphs? —KNcyu38 (talk • contribs) 07:02, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
- Disable justifying in your prferences and add the following piece of code to Special:Mypage/monobook.css:
.ns-0 #bodyContent { text-align: justify; }
- —Ruud 12:07, 24 March 2007 (UTC)