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Under references to Jay and SIlent BOb, I removed a line that said they were shown as drug dealers "except in Mallrats", since they were shown as dealers in that movie.

Contents 1 cleanup tag added 2 Motifs 2.1 A note on motifs 2.2 Should smoking be added to the motifs? 2.3 Star Wars Motif 2.4 Jersey Girl 2.5 Director's Trademark: 37 section removed 2.6 Location

[edit] cleanup tag added

This article needs serious work, so I added it to the cleanup list. It's a fairly important and oft-linked-to article, but right now it's a mass of incoherent lists, incomprehensible writing, in-jokes and unexeplained references and abbreviations, which makes it of limited use to anyone not already well-versed in the films (like, say, me). I'll do what I can, but I think someone more expert that me is going to have to come along if we want to turn this into a decent article. --Misterwindupbird 00:32, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

I don't have anything to add about this article, but I would like to say that Misterwindupbird's page is funny. Thank you. Wikiwarlock

I removed the clean up tag, because it looks pretty good now, and I did a few additons, and because Clerks II has come out, and people go online for info and if they come to the page, its a bit of an eye sore. Add it again if you feel you need to. tourettes1992

• this is something i usually work on so I will probably get to it soon.--Torourkeus 13:34, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Motifs

Please note that I officially moved the motif's to here: View Askewniverse Motifs. I also restructured it in a way explained in the first talk entry for that episode. I don't know how to add it to the Kevin Smith box though. BTW, I'll also move the following to the Motif page.--Torourkeus 22:44, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A note on motifs

When I revised this section, my idea was to keep it to a few examples of each, rather than listing every single reference to Star Wars, Jaws, hockey, etc. After several additions, I've again edited down some of the entries, as this seems to be the main thing that bogs down the entry (and primary source of "incoherent lists" -- among other things, people have added DVD deleted scenes and the "37" jersey in Mallrats (on which the number is never clearly seen on screen).

Is there some overarching need for Wikipedia to have a list of all VA references, particularly since there's zero chance such a list would ever be complete and comprehensive? - Hedgey42 06:34, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

(Added later: And are hockey, Star Wars, Jaws and Degrassi necessarily Askewniverse motifs, or just director's trademarks? - Hedgey42 07:05, 8 February 2006 (UTC))

• I would suggest maybe separating "View Askewniverse Motifs" into a new article. I'd also suggest that hockey, Star Wars, Jaws, and Degrassi are directors trademarks, as well as motifs. While in Clerks references seemed to be for his own amusement, in some of the later movies references have been purposely thrown in as you can hear on any of the DVD commentaries. Also I'd suggest the motif section be more succinct. Meaning, it follows the following format:

• In Clerks ...
• In Mallrats ...
• Etc.

rather than the mention of the movie be grammatically and semantically random. It may actually reduce the number of bullet points because there can be one for each movie rather than one for each time a motif occurs. --Torourkeus 13:30, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Should smoking be added to the motifs?

• i don't think so. I can't think of a notable reference to suggest it is a motif. Jay and Silent Bob smoke but I can't think of any other characters that do. The only other reference involves Dante and Randal at the quick stop in both Clerks and Jay & Silent Bob Strike back. In Dogma, it almost seems like the issue's avoided to some degree: i'd imagine the mooby empire could have much easier been done to a cigarette company or something but it wasn't.--Torourkeus 13:34, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Star Wars Motif

Randal mentions carbonite when in jail in Clerks ii. Han Solo was frozen in carbonite. Somebody please elaborate on this and add it to the main page when ready.

Well should it?--Greasysteve13 06:37, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

• go ahead--Torourkeus 13:30, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jersey Girl

• I thought Jersey Girl was outside of the View Askewniverse. --Torourkeus 17:06, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Director's Trademark: 37 section removed

I removed the section "Director's Trademark: 37" because it appears also appears in the article, List of View Askewniverse motifs, with more details.

[edit] Location

"The View Askewniverse is centered on the towns of Leonardo and Red Bank, both located in Monmouth County, central New Jersey."

Wasn't it Asbury Park?

82.176.211.33 23:23, 1 January 2007 (UTC)