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Contents 1 Smile 2 Milton Acorn 3 Famous Poets CD 4 victoria victoria 5 vancouver victoria! 6 On AfD.... 7 In the Skin of a Lion 8 In the Skin of a Lion *2 9 Polish Cz... painters 10 CCOTW 11 BC! 12 One Dead Indian 13 Medcab case 14 Royls 15 Quebec bashing 16 Defence 17 Kravitz 18 John Thompson 19 Mordecai etc... 20 Kelley Armstrong 21 Lisa B 22 Your fixes to Runaway production 23 poet stat! 24 Hollywood North 25 Gradey Alexander

[edit] Smile

[edit] Milton Acorn

Thanks for the tweaking of the article. I am mostly a French speaker (from Montréal) so I can collaborate with advanced english though I may need to be corrected ;) Lincher 18:38, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

If only my French was as good as your English! Well, a girl can dream. Victoriagirl 21:38, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Famous Poets CD

Hello again, I had thought I had put the note of the CD in all the poets I had the Rights to republish, I was just catching up on stuff. In 1976 the CBC produced a series of 30 minute audio tapes of 8 Canadian Poets, When I was at the University of Toronto and became acquaintance/friends with several of the poets in question, one of them mentioned the Tapes and I approached the OISE education at U of T, taken over by U of T Press, and bought/obtained the reproduction Rights for the Tapes for the CPA, including with the help of Gwendolyn MacEwen, the Rights for Milton Acorn's More Poems for People just after he died. In or about the year 2001 I had the tapes Mastered and put on CD. There are two famous poets per CD doing 30 minutes each of their poetry and one hour for Milton. So as sales have been slow to minimal I no longer advertize them on the Bookstore for the Canadian Poetry Association. They are still available if you want a copy. SO how should they be listed, I was going to go back and put the ISBN of each CD this weekend to update it all, Should there be a separate article or part of the CPA site, mentioning them maybe. Please let me know the proper method that is best. WayneRay 20:57, 1 September 2006 (UTC)WayneRay

I just updated and included more information and a list on the CPA article for reference, of all the CD poets, let me know if this is ok. WayneRay 21:41, 1 September 2006 (UTC)WayneRay

I finished the Discography listsings and connections and it does look better, I also updated the CPA site with our book listings. WayneRay 18:17, 9 September 2006 (UTC)WayneRay

[edit] victoria victoria

Hi, Do you know a lot about victoria island? I am going to have a year out and my family and I would like to go somewhere unusual (for us!). We were thinking of Victoria Island but apart from a visit to the Burchardt gardens in 1976 I don't know a whole lot about it. Malcolm Lowry wrote a long short story about his sojourn in the area and that kind of inspired me. I like the wild; fishing, writing, etc. I have also been a professional artist in the past. Is there a book I could turn to? Would we have to get some sort of permit to stay? Cheers, Lgh 00:47, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] vancouver victoria!

Yes, of course, how dumb of me - I meant Vancouver Island! Thanks for the good info - we will follow up. Lgh 22:44, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] On AfD....

Hi. I just wanted to say that I really enjoyed your introduction on the AfD for Leona Czwartkowski. It was very informative, which makes life a lot easier for the voters, and is much more preferable to something like, "WP:BIO.", as an introduction. It's always great to see some one put time and effort into an AfD, and it isn't recognised nearly enough, so thanks! I hope to see you around there again soon. All the best, Thε Halo ^Θ 00:15, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] In the Skin of a Lion

Hi, I do not have any problem with your edits. However, this was this editor's first attempt at an edit (second actually, but the first was interpretted as vandalism). The editor obviously spent a great deal of effort typing in the edit, and I wanted to soften the blow of the deletion somewhat. Take care. --BostonMA 02:07, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

I feel bad too. But you are right about the edit. It is just one of those unfortunate experiences in life. --BostonMA 02:14, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi, its me again. I originally WP:AGF and didn't want to WP:Bite, but I'm not so sure any more. There could be a sophisticated game going on here. --BostonMA 00:03, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] In the Skin of a Lion *2

Hi Victoria. This is Abhinav. The editing i have done is based on our school research. Most of my classmates wanted to have a reference page where all the notes could be found. This site was perfect for the information that i had added. Those notes took some time to type... i was sad at the outcome of my hardwork. As for the vocabulary. Our teacher had asked us to find out words we don't understand. I put the words there for my classmates and u deleted them too... dunno what to do next!

           Abhinav :-(

Can u plzz tell me what is wrong with the summary of the book??... all my info is not useless u know!! ... besides.. this is to help Wiki and i know that my info is valuable, not only to my class, but others. Ondaatje and how he uses 'surrealistic' thoughts is a valuable piece of information which i have posted!!...... i doubt u have posted "Great Edits" ... I don't mind repeating the same thing over and over again. U erase.. i will repaste!! I need proof lady!... Please rethink!

           Abhinav :-(

Hey Victoria! .. I don't need your sympathy, besides, there was never a consensus in this matter. U just erased my work saying it was 'irrelevant' with no proof or any communication. All my work is definately not irrelevant! I have sympathy and pity for you being so bad at editing!! Sorry...

           Abhinav :-(

Those who are interested (and it seems there are a couple) can find my response to the postings above on the In the Skin of a Lion discussion page. [1] Victoriagirl 02:31, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Polish Cz... painters

_ _ Fine job you did, spearheading AfD of Czwartkowski, and you were conscientious enuf to follow up by killing her lk from the LoPbN-tree. Brava!
_ _ That makes me think you probably did similar research to justify killing the other three rd-lks on the same page, since they each appear (as their respective what-lks-here pages reveal) to have been copied in good faith from entries presumably made in good faith to, IIRC, List of painters or List of Polish painters, and i assume you realize that rd lks are a Good Thing until there's article-specific reason to presume n-n. If you did, could you say so (if not, e.g., describe Google test results) on talk:List of people by name: Cz (in lieu of having done so in the summary), saving collegial angst over seemingly reckless removals? Thanks!
--Jerzy•t 14:15, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CCOTW

You showed support for the selection of a Canada Collaboration. This month None was selected for improvement. We hope you can contribute.

[edit] BC!

Wow a wikipedian from BC now going to university in Montreal (Concordia I presume?) Thought I was alone! --Gregorof 00:27, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] One Dead Indian

Hi there Victoriagirl. Could you provide source for the fact that One Dead Indian was published by Stoddart in 2001? Can you provide an ISBN?

I can find this showing it was published by McClelland & Stewart in 2003. Could this refer to a revised or paperback version? Is Stoddart perhaps a subdivision of M&S, or something? Regards,--Saforrest 04:50, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi Victoriagirl. Thanks for the explanation about Stoddart. I like the "References" -> "Editions" change; I agree that having a reference to book X on a page about book X is a bit strange. I'm happy as long as the complete information needed for a reference (title, publication date, etc.) and the ISBN is included somewhere on the page, in whatever form. --Saforrest 20:48, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Medcab case

Under the Copyright Convention this is true in canada.

If the content is copyrighted and does not have permission to use, Wikipedia can not use it. You would be justified in deleting these links then, get sysop assistance if necessary. The case is therefore Closed. Geo. 18:41, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Royls

--- Hello Victoria, Next time read my book - "Don't Get Hustled: On A Higher Level". Yes I am philosopher. And I started a "ROYLS" Article. With the intention on correcting it later on. No this is not a user page. by Roy M. Philip --- 11/04/2006

Note: this communication appeared originally on my user page. As it is communication frm another user, I have moved it to User talk. Victoriagirl 02:36, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Quebec bashing

I don't see how the changes you recently made to Quebec bashing are "as per the Mediation Cabal decision", as you wrote when making them. perhaps I'm missing something, but I don't see that anyone has shown that the articles were used without permission. If I am missing something, please let me know. I added a bit more on the case's page. John FitzGerald 17:49, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Mathieugp has clued me in on why the references should come out at least temporarily, but I hope someone is looking into whether the articles are used with permission or not. if no one is, I can try. John FitzGerald 19:11, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Our messages seem to be crossing. Thanks for the message on my talk page. At the very least this imbroglio shows the weakness of the mediation procedures – obviously you felt constrained from investigating. Anyway, as I noticed on the article talk page, I don't see how vigile.net could have carried on a program of barefaced piracy for so long without being caught. I will inquire further. I must say I'm surprised that you don't seem to feel any need to. John FitzGerald 19:24, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Here's your evidence. Took me like three minutes to find it. John FitzGerald 19:41, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh, yeah – as I've noted elsewhere, I'm now happy with your last edit of the article, until the issue is settled, anyway. Couldn't be more appropriate. As I implied above, I think the problem was too many people trying to act in good faith when what constituted good faith wasn't very clear. John FitzGerald 20:02, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Mathieugp pointed out something I missed. That article I found is dated 1998. As he suggests, vigile.net has probably either established its right to reproduce or reached an accommodation. I haven't been able to find anything later. Anyway, it's about time someone contacted vigile.net. I suugested to Mathieugp that he's the obvious candidate. John FitzGerald 23:48, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Defence

Thanks for the note "in your defence." However, no need to defend yourself to me. I admit my original post could well have have left the impression I was expecting a defence, but if I'd thought you'd done something beyond the pale I would have reverted your edits. I work in a field where the modus operandi is essentially to question everything. My original comments on this issue were not fully informed, my contributions since have had certain, um, flaws, but I think we're all getting closer to a resolution as a result. As per Popper's The myth of the Framework.

You were right to raise this issue and I have been persuaded by Mathieugp your removal of the links was the right thing to do until the issue is settled. My big beef is with the mediation procedures. Again, I don't think they need to be defended, just examined. John FitzGerald 17:48, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kravitz

Victoria, thanks for your help on the Kravitz entry. You have great taste in music.

s.

[edit] John Thompson

Hello,

I did quite a bit of searching regarding the death of the poet John Thompson. I could not find a source that stated his death was a suicide. From what I did find, it is clear it was drug related. As you can see I added both the text I found and its source to his article.

Regards,

Michael David 14:17, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mordecai etc...

Thanks for the heads up, and thank you for the clear headed commentary. Hopefully we can move beyond the silliness soon. Peregrine981 02:18, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, I couldn't do it without you. Your resourcefulness has been invaluable to moving that article along. You had mentioned that we should include a ref to how many articles he wrote on the subject, but I am having some trouble finding a reference for that. Any ideas? Peregrine981 18:19, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

I found one source saying that he had written 7 major articles in the US media (out of 8 on the topic of Quebec!). However, the source for this is Guy Conlogue (Conlogue, Ray. "Facing up to both sides of Mordecai." Globe & Mail (Toronto, Canada) (July 25, 2001)). What do you think? Can the source be trusted on this? Peregrine981 00:50, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Checking the databases, I found 4 articles written on Quebec politics after 1991, giving a total of eight. Perhaps it depends on what one means by major. Perhaps we should just cite the articles in question? Peregrine981 20:03, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kelley Armstrong

Hi, you put a wikify tag on that article. What would you suggest be wikified? It looks to me like almost everything that can be wikified is. (Not all, but most). Could you be more specific (maybe on the article tak page)? Aleta 05:06, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I have no argument with, and am actually in agreement with, your concerns. I just wouldn't classify them as wikification (which I think of as being markups and wikilinks, etc.). Maybe one of us could change the tag to something more representative of those concerns?  :) Aleta 22:04, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

First, I should have thanked you before for your reply, so thanks! I see you've already changed the tag to cleanup - no problem with that.  :) I've reposted your concerns to Talk:Kelley Armstrong, and I've been working some more on the page, adding references (though all so far are to subpages of her official page). Aleta 23:23, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lisa B

Hey, I know you didn't realize I was still working on it. I just got frustrated (more than was warranted for the amount lost, but that is my own crap). I wondered about the citation noted thing. Actually I'm adding at least one. Part of what I found disagrees with the thing about her debut album, som I deleted that mention. Aleta 01:21, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Hey, I hope you don't think I was upset with you. It was just the situation. Anyway, it's funny we keep working on the same pages - for you it's presumably the Victoria connection, but this and the Armstrong article are totally unrelated things for me.  :) Aleta 01:36, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your fixes to Runaway production

I just saw your changes to Runaway production. Thank you - I was trying very hard to synthesize everything, but it's exceedingly difficult to edit in the sea of references and notes. I agree there is still a lot of redundant redundant hyper-linking, among other things, so it's nice to have some fresh eyes. Agent 86 03:38, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I just realized I was talking about a completely different (but related) article. I guess I didn't screw up after all - until I made the above note, anyway! Agent 86 03:50, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

As I said over at Agent 86's talk page, thank you both for your participation at Runaway production and Hollywood North. This situation will really benefit from "new blood" sifting through the conflicting contributions and sorting out what is appropriate. At the same time, I'd also appreciate any advice you can provide me on how best to approach this matter as an editor. Constructive criticism is always welcome. Thank you. --Ckatz^chat_spy 05:57, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] poet stat!

Hi Victoriagirl - I have watched from afar and with interest as you have bravely defended various poets. Time to reveal that I am a poet (gulp) with two books to my name. If you email me a mailing address I will send you my 2000 book Erosion which will give you some flavour or Australia or at least my small corner of it. Cheers, Lgh 23:42, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi again, if you are logged in you can go to my user page and email me direct using the 'email this user' in the 'toolbox' box in the left margin of your wikipedia window. I'd rather not post my direct email 'cause you never know who's watching! Cheers, Lgh 01:25, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hollywood North

Thanks for the thanks. I did say "everyone" because I didn't want anyone to feel singled out and also because I wanted everyone to think about their actions. But I have to say that you were probably the only editor to remain completely civil the entire time. --JGGardiner 05:56, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gradey Alexander

I also did a bit of Googling, and turned up about as much as you did. Not having personally heard of him doesn't really matter; if he were notable he'd be somehow verifiable on the web. Unfortunately, though, being a hoax isn't actually a speedy deletion criterion, so it'll have to go through AFD. I'll look after that right now. Bearcat 20:59, 28 February 2007 (UTC)