Talk:Vice Lords
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[edit] Who's oldest?
The article at conservative says "The Chicago C. V. L.'S is the oldest Chicago street gang." This article says "The Vice Lords is the oldest and the second-largest street gang in Chicago." While both are People affiliated, neither indicates that it's the same gang as the other and the histories differ. Thus the question is, which is correct? One of them must be older than the other.
There may be other gang articles that make similar claims, as I have not checked them all.
- The Vice Lords is the original gang, the Conservative Vice Lords was the attempt to incorporate and become a legit organisation much like the Black Panthers. Therefore the Vice Lords is the oldest, however CVL is the oldest in terms of absolute organisation.--Anthonysenn 11:27, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
I wouldn't compare CVL to the Panthers. The Panthers main goal was ecomonic improvement in the black community and self defense against a biased legal system. They did not start out nor end with illegal activity being their goal. VLN on the other hand started out on a crooked path, then went straight/legit, then went back to illegal activities. Panda
[edit] Urban Social Experiment
I was watching a television show on the History Channel about street gangs, and they had a section about the positive period of time that the Vice Lords went through in the 60's, and how they essentially revitalized their Neighborhood in Chicago for a two year period. Not having this information in this article paints an incomplete picture of the Vice Lords, and should be addressed. Jon Thompson 20:21, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
I agree. Panda
[edit] The gang's symbols
gd's dont use bunnys u fake
[edit] Removal talk subjects
This dumb encyclopedia admits what it wants in their articles and talk pages. Whatever is negative in regards to blacks or leftist americans are magnified, while all else is watered down. I have noticed that a lot of entries have been deleted by impotent moderators. Make all discussion topics viewable by visitors you dumb fucks. Panda —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.24.46.113 (talk) 23:25, 24 January 2007 (UTC).fuckyallvickylewasshooksIT'S 7-4 TILL DA WORLD BLOW
