Template talk:Vermont

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Contents 1 slimmed down template 2 U.S. state templates 3 new template suggestion 4 Standardization of state templates 5 City names

[edit] slimmed down template

with 250-ish towns, listing them all in the template was getting unwieldy and taking a lot of time to load. I added a link to the towns in Vermont page instead, added a few more thing to the template and left it alone. I hope that's okay with folks. Jessamyn 03:08, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] U.S. state templates

Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. states/state templates lists and displays all 50 U.S. state (and additional other) templates. It potentially can be used for ideas and standardization. //MrD9 07:25, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] new template suggestion

Hi. I saw that you have been working on new designs for the template. I think a smaller footer version would be great, but I think some of the design choices that you made make it very hard to read [blue links on green and smaller text] so I thought it might be a good idea to move sample designs in here while we worked on something more final. The template goes on the bottom of a lot of pages, and if you're trying out new ideas it might be a good idea to make sure the final version is usable and readable, at least somewhat. Here is the copy of the version you were working on. I really like how it's smaller, and has the state seal, but the collection of small boxes and similar colors makes it hard to read and the extra HTML makes the code hard to edit for future changes. Do you think we can find a middle ground? Jessamyn (talk) 13:33, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

This is the template you were working on

	The State of Vermont
Capital	Montpelier
Regions	Champlain Valley | Green Mountains | Mount Mansfield | Northeast Kingdom
Counties	Addison | Bennington | Caledonia | Chittenden | Essex | Franklin | Grand Isle | Lamoille | Orange | Orleans | Rutland | Washington | Windham | Windsor
Cities	Barre City | Burlington | Montpelier | Newport City | Rutland City | South Burlington | St. Albans | Vergennes | Winooski
Towns	For the complete list of the towns, see: List of towns in Vermont.
	Culture	Geography	Government	History	Images

This is what the template currently looks like (copied in case it's modified in the future)

	State of Vermont Constitution | Towns | History | Music
State Capital	Montpelier
Regions	Champlain Valley | Green Mountains | Mount Mansfield | Northeast Kingdom
Towns	For a list of the towns in Vermont, see this listing of Vermont towns.
Cities	Barre City | Burlington | Montpelier | Newport City | Rutland City | South Burlington | St. Albans | Vergennes | Winooski
Counties	Addison | Bennington | Caledonia | Chittenden | Essex | Franklin | Grand Isle | Lamoille | Orange | Orleans | Rutland | Washington | Windham | Windsor

I don't like the formatting changes, but I am for changing the order to Capital, Regions, Counties, Cities, Towns. I also think the header links could be changed to Government, Geography, History, Culture, Economics. Or something along those lines. --Thetrick 00:46, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

I think those are both good suggestions. Do you want to try to work up a mock-up and put it here and peopel can offer suggestions, if they have any. Jessamyn (talk) 01:10, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

	State of Vermont Geography | History | Government | Culture
State Capital	Montpelier
Regions	Champlain Valley | Green Mountains | Mount Mansfield | Northeast Kingdom
Counties	Addison | Bennington | Caledonia | Chittenden | Essex | Franklin | Grand Isle | Lamoille | Orange | Orleans | Rutland | Washington | Windham | Windsor
Cities	Barre City | Burlington | Montpelier | Newport City | Rutland City | South Burlington | St. Albans | Vergennes | Winooski
Towns	For a list of the towns in Vermont, see the list of towns in Vermont.

[edit] Standardization of state templates

There is currently an ongoing discussion regarding standardization of state templates (primarily regarding layout and styling) at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. states/state templates. An effort was made earlier this year to standardize Canadian province templates (which mostly succeeded). Lovelac7 and I have already begun standardizing all state templates. If you have any concerns, they should be directed toward the discussion page for state template standardization. Thanks! — Webdinger ^{BLAH | SZ} 23:01, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] City names

I propose changing the city names as displayed from "Barre City", "Newport City", etc., to just "Barre", "Newport", and so on. The reason is that the places are actually called "Barre" and "Newport", not "Barre City", etc. I understand that there are surrounding towns of the same name, but since the template clearly says "Cities", I don't think that that should cause any confusion. Still, being an outsider (from New Hampshire), I want to check the feelings of the community before I make a change. Any comments? Ken Gallager 21:32, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I have seen at least one place where "City" is added (the City of Barre web page), but it's clearly in the context of having to distinguish the city from the surrounding town. "City" would still be unnecessary in the case of this template. Ken Gallager 16:44, 23 January 2007 (UTC)