Talk:Venturi scrubber

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An entry from Venturi scrubber appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column on December 15, 2006.

Contents 1 Copyright problems? 2 Help 3 Copyright 4 Formatting 5 Reason for my revisions of December 23, 2006 6 Merge proposal

[edit] Copyright problems?

This article was created in rather high quality by a single user in a single edit. This makes me suspect it may have been a wholesale ripoff from a copyrighted source. It is also possible that this was taken from some public-domain source. This article either needs to show its source or be deleted as a copyright violation. --Dgies 07:04, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I tend to agree, especially as it refers to several figures that are missing. Djfeldman 13:24, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

OK, listing above... --Dgies 16:04, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Some people also have jobs and they work till very late in the evening, what's so wrong with that? If I can't find the time to finish my edit, does that mean I infringed a copyright? The pictures are already uploaded, they just need to be included in the article. Besides, I'm an air pollution control expert (in scrubber operation and design). When I created my first article, I just uploaded a small portion of it, then it was deleted. Now, I edited it using an external editor and I uploaded all the content at once. What's wrong with this too? The Vindictive 20:28, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

It wasn't meant as an attack. The article looks very good. It looks so good that we're a little concerned that it could be copyright infringement. If you have published this before, could you please send an email to permissions-en AT wikimedia DOT org saying who you are, where this work is from, and that you grant permission to use this work either under the GFDL license or as public domain. If this is your original work and has not been published elsewhere before, that's OK too. I just suspected this might be copyright infringement and wanted a little clarification. I appreciate your contributions. --Dgies 21:25, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help

Please help in wikifying this article if you have more spare time than I do, it takes a long time since it's very long. The Vindictive 13:53, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I'd be willing to help if you could just say where this text comes from. Is it new work by you, something previously published by you, or taken from a free source? --Dgies 17:04, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright

It is from a free source, EPA Air Pollution Training Institute and it is deemed as free domain see [1]. I also have confirmation and official permittance from NCSU (which the material was developed in collaboration with). Is that OK now? The Vindictive 17:04, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

That's fine, that's all I wanted to hear. Works of the US government are public domain. Please continue. --Dgies 17:42, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Formatting

Do you think that if we center and make the pictures bigger it will look better? With the thumbnails reduced to 100 px, it doesn't look so nice with so many pics. The Vindictive 14:02, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reason for my revisions of December 23, 2006

The Vindictive, the first line of any article should contain the article's title in bold font. That is why I re-arranged the first few sentences.

Your use of the word "exhaust" was very confusing. You mostly used it to specify the inlet gas to the scrubber. I know that you meant the exhaust for a furnace flue gas stack or some other process device ... but other readers will not understand that. So I changed most of your "exhaust"s to "inlet"s ... meaning the gas that enters the scrubber inlet.

In some few other cases, you used "exhaust" to specify the scrubbed gas leaving the scrubber ... which added the confusion of readers. In those cases, I changed you "exhaust"s to "outlet"s ... meaning the gas that leaves the scrubber outlet.

You must keep in mind the many readers who are not engineers and you must strive to clarify things for them as much as possible without sacrificing technical integrity. To most people, using "exhaust" to specify the inlet gas to the scrubber will be very, very confusing.

One other point, your lead-in section is much, much too long. I would advise you to break it up into more sections with section titles.

Another point that bothers me in all of your articles is the link to [2], the USA EPA's APTI training courses. When I click on it, I don't get to see the actual course content unless I sign up to take the courses, so the link is really of very little value. Is there any way around that? Do you actually have the course contents and is there any way to make that content available without violating copyrights? Happy New Year and regards, - mbeychok 22:36, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Unless otherwise specified, works of the US government are public domain. Just because they are public domain does not mean they have to be made available to the public. --Dgies 23:54, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Dgies is right. We had this discussion before. Yes, I do have the courses but they're in PDF format. Actually, you don't need to sign up. You can download them very easily by clicking on the links located in the left side of the page (courses by format). I also have the official consent from North Carolina State University to use the materials in Wikipedia. It's in my e-mail box. How can I make my e-mail box available to the public?

NCSU developed these courses as part of a project funded by EPA. Is that OK or do I need to explain more? The Vindictive 10:54, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge proposal

I'm proposing to merge Ejector venturi scrubber with Venturi scrubber. As far as I can tell, both articles talk about the same subject. Since all the action seems to be on this article I think Ejector venturi scrubber should be injected here (pun intended). ʍαμ$ʏ5043 19:01, 6 March 2007 (UTC)