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[edit] Ventrilo Hosting Providers

Please dont list hosting companies in the main page. Corpx 08:05, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

someone added gamedaemons.net to the external links, but for some reason it doesn't show up when you go to edit the section (therefore I can't delete it). Could someone take a look at that?

--Abbynormal1 23:49, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Free Ventrilo Servers

87.117.194.57 - Battlefield 2 30 man server, port 3873 <- deleted this because it was a temp test server with no channels.

Why is the official Ventrilo site labeled as spam? It's the official site of the item at hand, it's the place to get the clients, and it's the next logical step for somebody who reads about Ventrilo for the first time.v--209.60.96.90 06:36, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removed Dallasxtreme Commercial Link

I've removed an external link to the www.dallasextreme.com/setup.php "guide", as it's mostly a reproduction, word for word, of the official Ventrilo setup guide on the offical Ventrilo site, but with half a page of Ventrilo hosting ads on the top and sidebar. This exact link with the same text description has been added numerous times by various IPs and most recently Abbynormal1, who has posted similar links to other pages. On Abbynormal1's first edit, the link was described as "Ventrilo client setup instructions and offers Ventrilo Servers for purchase". I can't see any reason why this link should be on the page, but I've put this here in case others have comments. --Battlehamster 01:19, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


As the poster of the link, I have comment. You're wrong in almost every staement of fact you make, including the ones you made in private to me. First, the content of the link I posted is NOT a reproduction of the Ventrilo setup guide. Albeit, part of it (client guide) is quite similar, the server setup guide -- which is the primary reason I posted the link is unique and not avaialble anywhere else to my finding. It helped me a great dela in setting up my Ventrilo server. So, I would first like to point out that the #1 question here is was my contribution worthy of the Ventrilo wiki? In my opinion, since it offers very helpful, unique information primarily for server admins, yes. The fact that this is only available from a commercial site isn't surprising considering what a small niche Ventrilo holds. Look through Wikipedia, my friend - there are tens of thousands of commercial links here, that BELONG here.
Secondly, I've changed my text description a couple times in hopes to satisfy whoever kept removing my contribution.
Finally, you say you "can't see any reason why this link should be on the page". Show me (post the actual link) a link to a different, better server setup guide that's not on a commercial site and I'll happily agree with you.
P.S. I'm not the site owner, and I consider it libel that you say "Abbynormal1, who has posted similar links to other pages.". Every wiki contribution I've made has been just that - contribution. I don't post links, or edit topics based on my own interest. I don't spam commercial links. I make valid, contribution minded edits. I suggest you either remove your libel, or back it up. --Abbynormal1 15:00, 16 July 2006
I've removed the commercial link that was placed on there. If we're going to post links to setup guides, etc., let it be on a site that's not selling something, especially not something related to the service. That's what ventrilo.com's renting page is for. Thanks. --24.93.208.62 07:47, July 18, 2006


The link was replaced. Before unilaterally removing the link, since it's been discussed at length here, please find an alternative setup guide. --Abbynormal1 10:05, July 18, 2006
How so? Look at the above "Ventrilo Hosting Providers
Please dont list hosting companies in the main page. Corpx 08:05, 9 May 2006 (UTC)"
Obviously that's a hosting company. I also think the link should be removed. --71.64.100.246 10:38, July 18, 2006


There's no argument that it's a hosting company. Commercial links, in case you didn't know, aren't prohibited in Wikipedia. Like I said before - it's their because it provides a valuable guide that ventrilo.com does not. Why is this so hard to comprehend? --Abbynormal1 10:43, July 18, 2006
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Ventrilo Hosting Providers
Please dont list hosting companies in the main page. Corpx 08:05, 9 May 2006 (UTC)"
Quite simple. Even if it's valuable, it's still a hosting company, and it's already been stated that they are not welcome on the page. Maybe, if you want to host commercial links on the page, you should alter the statement listed above. --71.64.100.246 10:45, July 18, 2006
Nobody that matters has ever stated that commercial links are not welcome in Wikipedia if they are important to the encyclopedia. The link to the guide that replaced the dallasxtreme link is not a good replacement. The dallasxtreme guide has instructions for how server admins go about configuring a server. The ventrilo guide explains how a client can install a server and connect to it. It's crazy how much opposition there is to improving Wikipedia.
I'm done trying to contribute -- it's not worth fighting blatant ignorance to the fact that this was a valid link to a useful site, despite it's commercial element. --Abbynormal1 12:34, July 18, 2006
I believe the link doesn't belong on the page, according to the Wikipedia: Links normally to be avoided page, specifically item 4. While the Dallasextreme site may have a guide on it, the site primarily exists to sell Ventrilo hosting. Based on the number of times people have removed the link, and the discussion we're curently having, I think it has "objectionable amounts of advertising" (see item #4 again). The content of the page doesn't to me, outweigh the commercial nature of it. I believe that as it is, the link should remain off the page until we have a general consensus on whether or not it should be there. I welcome anyone else's input on the situation. --Battlehamster 22:26, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kernel32.dll errors

Regarding the most recent edit which added:

Many would-be users of Ventrilo use other voice chat programs because of the incompatibility of many users kernel32.dll file with Ventrilo.

Can we get some more information about this? A source/indication of where "many" is coming from? A google search for ventrilo kernel32.dll turned up nothing relevant. A Ventrilo forums search did turn up 5 people with problems over the last year, but without anything more, that seems like a very insignificant number.

In the end I have no problems with statement if it's true, I've just never heard of this being a problem for people before. --Battlehamster 09:24, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

If it can't be corroborated then the line should be removed. Xenocidic 20:48, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
I agree. It's been almost a week without any response from the person who made the edit, so I'm removing it. --Battlehamster 21:16, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] No Linux client

Ventrilo is a - - program for - - Linux.

I think the above sentence is misleading. There is no Linux version of the Ventrilo client (yet). It's been 'in development' for a long time, maybe a year and a half. I've heard nothing of it since I first saw it on Ventrilo's site. Until the Linux client is released, it should be mentioned in a different way. Nothing suitable comes into my mind though.. Materiality 18:20, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GameComm

Why is this "software" listed under similar programs? The software does not exist, and neither does the web site. Suposedly, it's supposed to be out in 2007, but should something that does not yet exist and who's web site is currently dead even be listed? The listing should be removed.

Jake b 06:46, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree with you and I have listed the Gamecomm page for AfD, you can chime in at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/GameComm. BJTalk 06:56, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Interesting...I beta tested for them, but I guess they're done. Corpx 00:51, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] OS Section of right template misleading.

Perhaps there should be two lines under OS, server and client. There is no mention of the server's compatibility with OSs like BSD, but linux is listed when there is no linux client... only longstanding empty promises for one.

[edit] ambiguous information

The word "this" is ambiguous in this sentence: "As of this date though, the Mac OS X client is still unable to connect to most servers." Please specify the date.

Dofstead 17:53, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

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