Talk:Vellala Gounder
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 |
This article is within the scope of WikiProject India, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of India-related topics. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page. |
| Start | This article has been rated as start-Class on the quality scale. (add comments) |
|
More information about this article...
|
|
[edit] EVIDENCE FOR Relation between Sengunthars/ Kaikolars and Devadasis
1. The following is quoted from a legitimate third party website. http://globalindiamissions.org/newsletter/nwsltr0802.htm
The Kaikolan are a large Tamil and Telugu caste of weavers. There are seventy-two subdivisions (nadu or desams). Their name comes from a mythical hero and from the words "kai" (hand) and "koi" (shuttle). They consider the different parts of the loom to represent various gods and sages. They are also known as Sengundar, which means a red dagger, which is traced to the legend of the earth being harassed by demons, which led to the people asking the god Shiva to help them.
Traditionally, one girl in every family was set apart to be dedicated to temple service and becomes a "Devdasi" (meaning female servant of god). In the temple, the girl is considered married to the temple deity but in practice becomes a prostitute, especially to the Brahmans and she learns traditional music and dancing.
2. The following is journal research article with abundant valid references. This is as legitimate as it gets.
This article talks in much detail about how women from the Sengundhar/ Kaikola caste get into the sacred prostitution in temples.
"Contending identities: Sacred prostitution and reform in colonial South India Priyadarshini Vijaisri A1, A1 Centre for the Study of Developing Societies (CSDS), New Delhi" South Asia: Journal of South Asian Studies Publisher: Routledge, part of the Taylor & Francis Group Issue: Volume 28, Number 3 / December 2005 Pages: 387 - 411
To view the complete article just register, its free.
Here are the links :
http://journalsonline.tandf.co.uk/link.asp?id=jv31l27518262711 If you cannot access it then just go to the following page and follow one of the links
3. This is taken from another legitimate webiste http://www.go2southasia.org/l_peoples.html of a world renknown organisation recognised by many countries. They have no gain in just picking on the Sengunthar caste.
The KAIKOLAR people are a caste of weavers 1.5 million strong in southern India. They are Hindus and view different parts of the loom as representations of various gods and sages. Traditionally, each Kaikolar family sets aside one daughter to serve in a Hindu temple. That daughter is considered married to the temple deity—often the Hindu destroyer god Shiva. In practice, the daughter becomes a temple prostitute.
All 3 of the above references are quite legitimate and I can quote many more. There is no question of coincidence or any error in any of these sources. Please comment. SIR I APPRECIATE YOUR UPRIGHTNESS IN CHOOSING TO HOST IN A DIFFERENT NAME PON DHEEPANKAR CREATOR:GOUNDER PAGE
[edit] regarding formatting
Sir, Why do you meddle with internal link options?I never did with ur article vellala gounder.This will spark a erase-counter erase program again.Please co-operate.I know ur Ravindran Ganapati and lets be good friends. Thanking You,
Pon Dheepankar,Delhi University
- The foramt fot Dissam pages in Wiki is like this
- Please follow the format
- RaveenS 13:58, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
dear sir,
youve mentioned that vettuvars and vellalars have common origin with their kootam system.one known fact is that vettuvars are called vadugars or northeners.even today legend says that vettuvars were NOT THE ORIGINAL PEOPLE(the hunter gatherer theory is not applicable here) of kongunadu and were taken into it by vellalas to clear the forests.later they assimilated the kootam system of vellalas and also the title gounder like how the vanniars assimilated it.the vettuvars at one point of time were in equal numbers to the vellalas and the power struggle is reflected in annamar kathai.so please dont spread the new myth of vettuva vellala common origin(ie dont use the european hunter->gatherer->agriculturist theory blindly here.
