User talk:Vcalzone

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Please do not remove AfD tags. Thank you. Isopropyl 07:53, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject

Please see the information at the article regarding WikiProjects. That is better for what you guys are trying to do. zellin t / c 14:23, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] proposed delete of good grief

hi, i originally proposed to delete good grief, but after seeing all the hard work you've put into it, i realise i was wrong! i think now that it looks so much better, it's much more accessible and definitely worth keeping. so i guess this is an apology! -- ConDem 17:22, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiquote

The quotes you guys are trying to do probably belong on Wikiquote. (See [1]). I'm monitoring your situation very closely (on your boards and on here) and would be glad to help so feel free to leave a message on my talk page if you have any questions. zellin t / c 17:45, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

I personally think that the article for The One Where Michael Leaves has a good format. Some things that Good Grief has are unnecessary - quotes (which belong on Wikiquote) and goofs (which can be subjective, which is a no-no on Wikipedia. As far as a WikiProject is concerned, it may be better (on second thought) to put a guide on the OP forums in a very visible place on how to make one of these articles. Some things that should be included in these, in addition to the general format of The One Where Michael Leaves as you made it, should be the addition of [[Category:Arrested Development episodes]] and {{spoiler}} tags. Also, a guide on how and when to make wiki links is probably a good idea. I would also advise anyone who plans on contributing to create a user account as it makes it easier for Wikipedians to contact them. Feel free to leave any more questions on my talk page. zellin t / c 18:12, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

I noticed on the forums you referred to me as a "she"... I take no offense but I am, in fact, a man ;-)! zellin t / c 18:17, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

That is a good start that you put up on the forums. As for Lindsay's incorrect listing, either [[Lindsay Fünke|Lindsay]] or [[Lindsay Bluth Fünke|Lindsay]] will work as well. Make sure that your members know that a wiki link is only necessary for the first mention of a character. Also, other things that may have articles on Wikipedia (such as Blue Man Group or Army) also warrant wiki links. I also want to alert you to a problem with Barry Zuckerkorn, who has been added to some articles as Zuckercorn (with a 'c'). zellin t / c 18:31, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Looking good so far. You can let Beamer know that it's my pleasure. Also, I would probably continue going against Musty Old Claptrap's initial suggestion - a mass submission in order to get publicity would be frowned upon. zellin t / c 23:58, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

You're right, this is a little like Palpatine and Vader. I noticed that there is some question as to which episodes are done; there has already been a list of AD episodes here: List of Arrested Development episodes. Red links, obviously, have not been started, but some of the blue ones (such as Bringing Up Buster) are only a little beyond that point. And I wouldn't be too concerned about Bringing Up Buster's possible deletion, Wikipedia policy already exists on this matter and the current apathetic voting reflects that. zellin t / c 00:18, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Also, sorry Musty Old Claptrap! zellin t / c 00:20, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

I love your Cornballer article. I was going to suggest more miscellaneous articles like these! Please add them to [[Category:Arrested Development (TV series)]]. Also, in episode articles that reference these things, don't forget to wikify ;-) zellin t / c 01:36, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

I am pretty sure I removed all of the attention tags, but you guys can feel free to remove them once the articles look good. To revert, you can go to the "history" tab, and click on the version you want to revert to, click "edit this page", then save that version. zellin t / c 03:19, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

I just wanted to address Zegota's concern. On Wikipedia, it only takes one person to put a page up for deletion - this person was not aware of the existing precedence for TV episodes on Wikipedia. I would not be concerned at all for anything like this in the future regarding episode articles. However, we may eventually see all the miscellaneous articles (The Cornballer, Les Cousins Dangereux, Bananagrabber, etc) get pushed into one "Arrested Development miscellany" article. That is what happened with The Colbert Report (see The Colbert Report recurring elements, which is a very good article). I wouldn't be too worried though, just make sure you only write these types of articles about important, recurring elements. zellin t / c 00:51, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

I had actually thought that would be something that would make sense anyway, since most of the running gags don't have TOO much to say about them, and probably wouldn't have much meaning outside the confines of the show. I figure we might split the page for Arrested Development characters into lead characters and supporting characters, too. If we did something like that, though, would it be possible to have a more direct link, like one that has the target from the URL? As it is, a link to Kitty Sanchez only goes to the main page, and makes it hard to find the information about Kitty. --Vcalzone 01:54, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Nevermind! Just found it! [ [ Kitty Sanchez#Kitty Sanchez|Kitty ] ] --Vcalzone 01:59, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Please do not move the pages as has been discussed on the forums. zellin t / c 23:07, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for heeding my advice ;-). I imagine Leez will be upset, but precedent already exists for this (see the list of Simpsons episodes); titles are usually only clarified when needed due to another, preexisting article. You may find other TV episode lists that go the other way, but they are doing so out of line with existing procedure. When this happens, it is also probably a good idea to put a note at the top of the preexisting page in italics, noting that the user may also be looking for the AD episode, with a link provided of course. zellin t / c 04:11, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Leez, a page already exists for Switch hitter. The disctinction is in capitalization. Like I said above, when you have two articles that have otherwise identical titles, it is a good idea to put a note at the top of each page in italics that the user may be looking for the other page. Obviously this is not neccesary when there is an (Arrested Development episode) distinction, as someone looking for the show Family Ties would never type in "Family Ties (Arrested Development episode)". However, someone may (and would likely) type in "Family Ties" if they were looking for the episode, so there is a note on that page saying so. zellin t / c 18:26, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

1. Hello Vcalzone. One of your recent edits was undone by an automated bot as likely abuse of editing privileges. Our welcome page provides information for new users who would like to contribute. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you feel you have recieved this notice in error, please contact the bot owner. Thank you for your interest in our project. // Tawkerbot2 22:32, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey Vcalzone. I just wanted to let you guys know that the project is coming along very nicely. Also, observing the project has increased my interest in AD, and I am re-re-re-watching Seasons 1 and 2. I am also trying to download Season 3 episodes from BitTorrent, but seven of the episodes (For British Eyes Only, Forget Me Now, Mr. F, SOBs, Fakin' It, Family Ties, and Exit Strategy) haven't made any progress. I am downloading the iPod versions from this page. I am a bit new to BitTorrent, so is there something else I should be trying? Or will they start up eventually? You can respond to me via e-mail: zellin@mac.com. Thanks! zellin t / c 16:02, 25 March 2006 (UTC)