Talk:Vandread

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This article was Anime and Manga Collaboration of the Week for the week of 25 March 2006. See how it improved – Before – After

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Contents 1 Collaboration 2 LGBT 3 The Author 4 Name Arrangement 5 Third Stage

[edit] Collaboration

I have a question about the "series" aspect of Vandread. Like many anime series, Vandread has multiple seasons and, like some, it's second season is subtitled - Vandread:The Second Stage. This is like Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex where it's second season Ghost in the Shell: S.A.C. 2nd GIG was given it's own article. The seasons of GITS was, IMO, autonomous enough to award the second season with it's own article, should the same be done for Vandread? Or should it similarily be set up like Full Metal Panic! where subsequent and preceding seasons are linked in a somewhat tabular fashion at the bottom? Or should they be combined and the infobox altered to reflect the separate seasons? (As it stands now, the infobox reflects only the first season.) I would just like some clarification on how this collaboration plans on going about this. Thanks. -- Miss Ethereal 05:28, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

The second season's plot doesn't get so much as a skimover in the current article, and as you mentioned most info is lumped with the original series. I'm for adding an infobox and fleshing out more info on the last half of show. Or are we in need of diviating the two with "The Second Page"? Papacha 04:00, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] LGBT

Not to be a party-pooper, but LGBT is not only not a focus of the Vandread storyline, but in fact the whole plot is basically about how much more fascinating and alluring (and even suspicious/dangerous) the opposite sex can be... if anything, this pure heterosexual angst! Sweetfreek 04:50, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• Its.....not a focus? Somthing like 80% of the cast are lesbians. .....and then there are Bart and BC. Jack Cain 06:10, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

This is so an LGBT series. Its focus does not by definition have to be about LGBT to be LGBT. It's LGBT because gay men and lesbian women make up the social background, and the vast majority of the characters in the story are lesbian women. Dita may be straight, but Meia's a lesbian, Jura's a lesbian, Barnette's a lesbian, and if Gascogne's not a lesbian then my 'dar isn't working. One of the recurring themes is the culture shock of meeting heterosexuals and learning about heterosexual issues, which most of the characters had long been trained to regard as disgusting and deviant. The story is essentially from gay cultural and lesbian cultural points of view, even if not all that characters are gay or lesbian. - Gilgamesh 06:17, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't consider this series' forced homosexualism (i.e. having no heterosexual community at all), as an example of an LGBT series. IMHO, Vandread deals with sexual relations among other things but doesn't present LGBT issues in a special way. That is why, I am not comfortable with putting this anime in the same category as Kannazuki no Miko, Maria-sama ga Miteru, Strawberry Panic or many other shoujo-ai animes.

That is my $0.02 after watching only 6 episodes so far. Therefore, I might change my opinion after watching all episodes. :) --Emre D. 10:53, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Trust me, it gets gayer. But if I said how, that would be spoiling. - Gilgamesh 11:06, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Remember, too, that role reversal is a common way to of addressing social issues in fiction. In the world of VanDread, the people have homosexual relationships by default, and most are disturbed by the idea of heterosexual relationships (at least at first). --'Kash 19:40, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

I'd agree that there are some pretty strong LGBT themes (having just watched the second stage), but as mentioned above it's also about the rediscovery of heterosexuality and (more importantly, I think) about different shapes of family and community. For instance, the important thing about Ezra's baby is, I think, not that she was born to a lesbian couple, but that the whole ship is her family and is helping to raise her. -- Matt of the Wilson 22:34, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Author

I don't know anything about the creator of VanDread, and am actually kind of curious. Currently the article links to an old Japanese military officer (died in 1945). I'm pretty sure that's not our guy, so anything now anything about this and can fix it? --'Kash 00:51, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name Arrangement

I think it's worth mentioning that the characters in VanDread don't refer to each other in typical Japanese fashion; e.g. their surnames follow their given names, which is more typical of Western culture.

[edit] Third Stage

I noticed that someone was looking for a "Third Stage" season of Vandread. As far as anyone knows, it doesn't exist. There were ideas for a season to star Hibiki's daughters, but that was scrapped for the Second Stage season.