Talk:Valspeak

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The words "Outtie 5000", "Baldwin," Loadie," "Monet," and "Postal" all came from the 1995 movie Clueless and were NOT in usage in the 1970s or 1980s. Those words were in fact, invented for the movie and were not even in usage before it became popular. I removed them from the Valspeak glossary.

If they have entered the Valspeak vocabulary, I propose to restore them ~~
I would suggest putting them in a separate section with an appropriate explanation. Thanks.   — Lee J Haywood 06:40, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Fixed Pictureuploader 08:36, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
"Loadie" has a life outside "clueless" and the Valley. I say it doesn't belong in Valspeak at all. It's been used since at least the '50's to describe person who... guess what... gets loaded. 198.49.180.40 00:32, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Audi 5000 was definitely ripped from hip-hop and not invented by the writers of "clueless" wether it was genuine teeny-bopper talk or not :) --203.202.70.202 04:54, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] AUDIO FILES?

Oh my god we like totally need a like an audio file (or multiple audio files) for this article. It is a totally great asset to like, people who want to totally like need to stop talking like me. pfftsh, like shut up, what EVRRR! RZ heretic 05:25, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Gross"

Gross, as in disgusting, was also part of Valspeak (and may have originated there), and was not otherwise in widespread use circa 1982. Now that it's universally understood, its origins in this context seem to have been forgotten; for example, Kate Winslett's character uses the term in the film Hideous Kinky, set in the early 1970s, even though the term became familiar in Britain only circa 1990. Whatever the case, it's not listed in this article.  ProhibitOnions  (T) 09:51, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I can remember this term being used as far back as the early 1960s, when I was in high school. Several other terms listed here also were in use by the general teenage population (at least in San Diego County): bitchin' (particularly in reference to a desirable female), grody, barf. I am pretty sure that "to bum", especially in the context of a cigarette, goes back a lot farther. I am pretty sure you could find this in movies but I can't think of a reference off hand.

There are other terms here I suspect, while used by Valley Girls, are not particular to that "culture". It looks like the VGs adsorbed a certain amount of slang from other forms of slang, particularly surfing/skateboarding.Wschart 16:56, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Relation to Other Dialects

There is not enough information on how it has influenced and been influenced by other dialects. For instance, some of the slang seems to have come from the Skateboarding and Surfing subculture, but none of this is addressed in the article. I am most curious about how Valleyspeak influenced the MTV generation, that demographic in which most MTV viewers come from, and how it spread to mainstream culture. If Valleyspeak really did beget most of that slang, it has had an enormous influence on young people, in other words, my generation! Rintrah 18:24, 24 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Vocabulary

Doesn't "psych" also mean "got you!"?

I was under the impression that was its only meaning.

[edit] Update/ Obsolete?

Alot of the vocabulary listed is obsolete and wrong. I go to school in the valley and i never hear tose words. FIX IT -Julesruels989

[edit] Sociolect

I say this subject is about a sociolect, not a dialect, and changed it accordingly... Loial 03:24, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

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