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[edit] from jayanthv

excuse me ,i have given a apt discussion before editting periayr,i wish you would read and not blindly revert all edits.

what exactly do you mean by telling many buddhists are aethists?do you have sources to support that?even if there is,what is the definiton of a buddhists?one who believes in the followings of "lord Buddha".which runs exactly anti parallel to the definiton of aethism.and i am sorry to say this that the great thanthai periyar was just another hoodwinking politician who acted in many paronoid ways to get notice for his party.and it is evident that he was only an anti hindu,and not anti-god.if he was anti-god,he would have taken a strong offensive stand against all religions,but that would nullify his vote bank,so he did this,in fact they say he was anti upper caste,but he did nothing to uplift dalits,because he spoke nothing against the real oppresors the thevars and the nayaks. I also apologise for my unruly language used in my earlier discussions,please pardon me,i will not repeat it. i also read ur discussion on periyars page and your explanation and i am sure ,you will put up the article you had promised. --Jayanthv86 18:25, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tamil

Great work on Tamil language, Arvind. Can you take care of the objections on Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Tamil language till Tuesday when I return back here? Thanks. -- Sundar 12:54, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)

Sure, to the extent I can. The formatting objections are quite beyond my humble wikiing abilities, though. --- Arvind 15:40, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
In relation to that, can you confirm to what extent the added references where used in the writing or fact checking of the article? Thank you - Taxman 14:57, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)
(comment left on Taxman's talk page) The section of the article on Geographic distribution has been completely rewritten using four of the books in the references (two of them are now mentioned in the text). I also made changes several weeks ago to the section on History based on another of the references, which I've now again inserted into the text. The analysis in the Examples section is based on standard grammars which are listed in the ancient works section of the references. I've also made several small changes to other sections recently, again based on the references. If you've any suggestions as to how the article could be improved by directly citing references in the text, they'd be gratefully received --- Arvind 15:36, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Great, thank you. That is better than I had hoped. As to inline citations, one way is to simply put the author's last name and the date and/or page numbers of the text in parethesis next to the fact you cited from that source. Such as (Smith, 2003, pp 22-24). One thing I did notice that would be great, is in the example section, the passage is listed in Romanisation and in English. It would be fantastic if it had a third spot showing the Tamil script before the Romanisation. Thanks - Taxman 16:02, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)

Image:WikiThanks.png - A special word of thanks, though insifficient, to you, Arvind. Thanks are also due to Taxman for his constructive comments. -- Sundar 04:56, Feb 23, 2005 (UTC)

And it Tamil language is now featured! -- Sundar 04:10, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)

Arvind, I'd already made this request in Raul's talk page. May be, you can add your support there, so that he'll be reminded of the request. He's the one who decides the featured article for a particular day. -- Sundar 04:55, Mar 8, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tamil people FAC

Hi Arvind, are you aware that someone has nominated Tamil people for FAC? Please register your vote at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Tamil people. Btw, there is some recent activity in ta:. If you've some time to spend, you can contribute there. Particularly, I seek your help in translating a couple of section in the Tamil article there. Also, I noticed your correction of the translation. I was looking for this word "kin", but didn't strike me. -- Sundar (talk • contribs) 10:39, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

Hi Arvind. I got your message in my talk page. Take your time. We need to take care of our off-wiki life as well :-) As for browsers that render Tamil text reliably on Linux, the answer is "I don't know". I'm facing the same problem. Everytime, I need to connect to a remote windows desktop to edit Tamil :-( Firefox might have some support for Tamil unicode, but on windows it shows the diacritics separate from the consonants. Kasi of thamizmanam.org might help. Will let you know if and when I get more info. Thank you once again for your unparalleled contributions to Tamil people. -- Sundar (talk • contribs) 14:41, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

Arvind, if you haven't noticed, Tamil people is now a FA. Btw, a minor suggestion: though I understand that you mark most of your edits as "minor" on account of humility, I would suggest that you do so only for typo edits and the like. Because, marking edits that others might want to look at/verify as minor is sometimes frowned upon by some people. Thanks. -- Sundar 04:12, May 26, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome back

Hi. Noticed your response at Talk:Tamil people. Hope you edit here at least occasionally and possibly at the Tamil Wikipedia too. :-) -- Sundar \talk \contribs 17:15, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] India related links

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[edit] Zoroastrianism on wikipedia :nn

Thanks for your clarification on my talk page. Does that mean that the en:Parsi page's link to nn:Parsarar needs to be changed? (some stub in-between to clarify?)

Just a thought... -- Fullstop 20:31, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Rani Mangammal

i have wikified the Rani Mangammal page,but there are a lot of names which you can write about and expand,so please look into it.--Jayanthv86 04:40, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tamil language

Glad that you've made amends to Tamil language article. Most of the issues raised by an anon at Talk:Tamil language have been addressed. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 12:18, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

All the best with your doctoral work. If it's not a problem, what your field of research is? -- Sundar \talk \contribs 12:41, 25 January 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Tamil script

OK, Arvind. I'll take care. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 13:20, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tamil literature

Arvind, In this edit, you'd referred (Hart 1975), but the citation is missing. Can you please add that? Also, the citation would be useful in a related discussion at Talk:List of English words of Tamil origin. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 12:09, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Arvind. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 05:15, 16 March 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Paternity leave

Congrats Arvind. :-) -- Sundar \talk \contribs 04:00, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
Many congratulations from me also. ImpuMozhi 19:30, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Could you have a look at this?

Hi, I changed what I think was biased writing on the article about Black July, could you have a look at its discussion page? Ulflarsen 16:54, 20 May 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Wikiproject on Sangam literature

I noticed you wanted to form one. I'm interested :) Kingsleyj 23:43, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Redaktør/Skribent/Bruker...

Problemet er at jeg føler det virker svært pretensiøst å presentere seg som redaktør av wikipedia (jeg regner med du ville sagt redaktør i wikipedia), samtidig som jeg ikke ønsker å gjøre noe poeng av at jeg skriver bedre på bokmål enn på nynorsk. Det kunne vært løst simpelthen ved at man droppet vedhenget "..., og behersker bokmål/nynorsk" på henholdsvis Template:user_nb og Template:user_nn. De som er interessert i distinksjonen, vil oppfatte forskjellen mellom "brukeren" og "brukaren". For meg har den nåværende utformingen av Template:user_nb og Template:user_nn en smak av norsk språkstrid, og derfor ønsker jeg ikke å bruke dem. Samtidig ønsker jeg ikke å presentere meg som redaktør. --vibo56 09:06, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Languages of India

Your inputs could be valuable at Talk:Languages of India#Cleanup. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 13:50, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Appadurai Muttulingam

Hello Arvind, The article will survive the deletion (with all the keeps). So I will not comment on it. Thanks for the update. - Ganeshk (talk) 03:57, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Liberation Tigers

Good for you, for making the change to the introduction. And by the way, congratulations on taking the intellectual leap of splitting the long paragraph into two! Definitely an improvement. Credmond 21:14, 26 June 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Can the LTTE be described as a "political" organisation?

User Vadakkan had vadalised the discussion page by shoving 3 differnet arguments by three differet users under one topic deleting the original sub headings of the arguments and replacing them with his own sub heading. Thus making it difficult for the user who initiated the topic to find it! This is not allowed in the discussion page.Please refrain from valdalising or you will be reported! Further if you like to experiment you can use the sand box! Thanks 172.130.231.48 19:19, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

I encourage you to report me to whoever you choose if you believe I am "vandalising" the page. It is actually quite common to restructure discussion pages to bring related discussions together. It makes discussions easier because one does not have to rehash arguments that have been repeated a little higher up the page, and the heading title was transparent enough to be evident to the reasonable reader. But, as I said, feel free to report me for vandalism. -- Arvind 21:33, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
O.k. since you have a bad attitude I will do so and report your Vandal on changing peoples comments , well more like deleating them!. - Ron - 04:04, 15 July 2006 (UTC)


'Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. '- Ron - 04:22, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your comment requested

Hi, Can you please refer to [1] and offer your comments to solve a minor dispute in the Carnatic music article? Much appreciated. - Parthi 23:26, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Can you comment on my inline questions here? -- Sundar \talk \contribs 07:48, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Create versus edit

I am in ur camp brother, creation is always very much better and then edit, you defend your work and improve it. Case in point the State terrorism in Sri Lanka. AFD is in and I am proud and relived that it began as a shameless piece of propaganda into article worth keeping. Thanks for you input in the discussion pageRaveenS

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Classical Tamil Inactivity

I have tried to organise this project and created the categories and stub templates suggested by the project template, however there has been a proposal to merge Classical Tamil category with the Tamil literature category. I think it would be better if we make this project include all Tamil literature rather than just 'Classical Tamil literature' we could do better. Perhaps we should rename the project Wikiproject:Tamil literature.

Also I would like to see some more input from other editors in this project. - Parthi 22:23, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

The project isn't supposed to be about the literature, it's supposed to cover the literature amongst other things (language, history). If you would like to expand it to be Wikiproject:Tamil, please go ahead - though for obvious reasons I would very much like to keep politics out of it, and that will be difficult with a broader focus. Let's continue the discussion on the Talk page. -- Arvind 10:33, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] LTTE mediation

Hey there, I was going through the new cases at WP:MEDCAB and I noticed that you are already mediating LTTE, which was listed as a case needed a moderator. I changed the case to "open" since you have it. Let me know if this was in error. Thanks! --Aguerriero (talk) 01:47, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Thanks for your commitment to WP:NPOV regarding the LTTE article. Addhoc 17:05, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kaveri Disputes article

Hi, After a long time, I have completed the Kaveri_River_Water_Dispute article in some shape and form. Most importantly, I've added some refs. Can you please take a look at the article and let me know if there are any glaring POV or anything that has the potential to be seen as POV. If you find anything, please let me know and I will add refs. Also the refs I've already added need some cleanup. Can you help me with this. I only know to add refs the 'plain vanilla' way. Also, while I've added refs for most of the controversial or potentially controversial portions, some parts of the article is still unreferenced. I will add it in due course. For all the above reasons, I've still left the underconstruction tag on. Once I get feedback from you, I'll remove it. I'll also make this request to few other editors, so that we minimise any risk of edit warring on that article. Thanks. Sarvagnya 23:10, 29 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Kaveri Dispute Article

Hi Arvind,

Stand of the two govts: I do not know when you last saw the article. But I made some changes after I posted my prev message to you asking you to take a look. Basically, I've gone into the main grouses of both governments in the introduction part that I added. Please take a look at it and if there is something missing, feel free to add it. Only thing is, if you are going to go into the nitty gritty of their grouses, I suggest you do it under a dedicated section. I think its better to keep the intro as brief as possible.

River Dispute Principles: That info is contained in one of the pdfs I've put in the references also I think. I wanted to add that myself but because of the technical nature of the subject, I found it a little difficult to summarise fairly without ommitting anything. Anyway, if you want to volunteer to do it, please go ahead. Once again the only request is, make sure that its presence doesnt take the focus away from the dispute which is central to the article. Infact, I am not sure, but I think I had seen an article on WP about the subject. Cant seem to find it now. If it is there, you could make use of it too.

Politics involved: I made a mention of this in the introduction I added after my previous message to you. But I agree that you can go over it in a section dedicated to it. I had also read about how winning in the kaveri districts has been vital for parties in both states.

wider context of the problem of water resources in India : imho: This one I am not so sure. In all fairness, it should certainly find a mention. But try to keep it as brief as possible.

Also, the section covering 2003-2006 needs to be expanded a bit and references added. If you can do that, fine. Or else leave it to me as I've done all the digging around for references already. I will do it in due course.

Thanks. Sarvagnya 07:42, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Halmidi inscription

Hi. I believe you were making enquires about the Halmidi inscription. There exists a book by G.S. Gai (if i am not wrong) called Kadamba inscriptions. Gai was the chief Govt. epigraphist for ASI and he deciphered all the Kadabma inscriptions and wrote about it . You may find info on the Halmidi characters there, unless the book was written prior to the discovery of the halmidi inscription. I have now added Badami chalukya inscriptions from 6th and 8th centuries to the Kannada page. We had once discussed bringing out the evolution of the Kannada characters. This is a begining. Next year if/when I travel thru Hassan I shall make it a point to stop at Halmidi and photograph the prototype they have replaced the original with (in fibre glasss). In the meantime, enjoy the Chalukya inscriptions.

Dineshkannambadi

[edit] Help needed in Carnatic Music edit wars

Arvind, the following is the message I left in User: Sunder's talk page and User:Venu62's talk page :

I find that two users Skris and Sarvagnya are reverting edits completely unreasonably. I have provided evidences from authentic sources and yet, they are pusing for their POV rather than being neutral and inclusive. The Carntic Music page has not progressed due to such unreasonable edits. The time put in to improve the article gets wasted. I don't know how to seek arbitration. I've already posted a copy of this in User Venu62 who had maintained objectivity in a tireless manner. Please advise.--Aadal 05:21, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] History of Tamil Nadu

Hi Arvind, I have inserted extensive citations in the History of Tamil Nadu article. I think it is now in a state for a round of copyedit and review. If you could spare some time to go through this article, we can move towards peer review and then FAC. Appreciate your help - Parthi talk/contribs 06:54, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Brahminical culture and Dravidians

Arvind, I apologise for bringing up one task or another for you. Please see what can be done to the mess that the article on Brahminical culture and Dravidians, whatever the title seeks to imply. This has been moved from the earlier Dravidians and Hinduism. I look forward to your cleanup help and comments. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 09:21, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Yep, it's a total mess. Looks like whatever that can be salvaged from it should be moved to appropriate articles and this article deleted pending scoping and a rewrite from scratch. Consider commenting on the requested move in the talk page. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 10:23, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re: Transcription proposal

Arvind, I had a good break during Deepavali. Had a look at your proposal; looks like it's a step in the right direction. While I'm no expert in this, I'll try to comment on each proposal based on what I feel. I've also requested comments from some knowledgeable Tamil Wikipedians. Let's arrive at something here. By the way, I liked the karpalagai metaphor. :) -- Sundar \talk \contribs 06:54, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

On a totally unrelated note, you might find ta:எம்.ஜி.ஆர். கொலை முயற்சி வழக்கு, 1967 interesting and given your background, you might help in getting us references to court papers and all. If you got some "pure Tamil" word suggestions for legal terms too, the article would benefit. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 09:29, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your browser rendering of Tamil script

Hi Arvind. I'm currently on Linux, so I'm just recalling from memory. If you're on windows, go to control panel -> settings -> languages -> select the check box corresponding to "script support for Thai, Indic, etc.," or something like that. It will install the appropriate packages if you insert your Windows installation CD at this point. However, on Linux I'm living with misrendered text. :( Some people have managed to tweak their system to render Tamil script correctly though. See if WP:COMPLEX or ta:Wikipedia:Font help helps. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 07:10, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

I found just now that Konqueror renders it correctly in my Red Hat Enterprise Linux box. So, I'm going to use Konqueror for Tamil editing and firefox for the others! -- Sundar \talk \contribs 10:02, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for your response on copyrights for Indian govt work. I am afraid I saw the response only today and have responded back. Shyamal 06:41, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry

Sorry, we may have been editing the India page at the same time and I probably inadvertently reverted some of the changes you made: unitary-->federal. Please make them again. Fowler&fowler 15:15, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

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