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[edit] Usage

Usage: place {{Userpage}} on your user page or pages. It will automatically print the correct URL and make it a link back to the page the template is placed on.

Or in another case just appears as "((Userpage}}" on some external sites... --Andylkl 15:00, Jan 30, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Escape sequencing

I am making a change to this template, which involves replacing the url with this code: [http://%65%6E%2E%77%69%6B%69%70%65%64%69%61%2E%6F%72%67/%77%69%6B%69/{{NAMESPACE}}:{{PAGENAMEE}} http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/{{NAMESPACE}}:{{PAGENAMEE}}]

The reason for encoding the url in the first instance is that when people duplicate our content they often change every instance of 'wikipedia' to their own website. Here, the way the link appears will change, however the web page will still link to your wikipedia user page. Here is the rendered code: talk:Userpage http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template talk:Userpage

--Alterego 05:54, Apr 10, 2005 (UTC)

works well! --Alterego 05:58, Apr 10, 2005 (UTC)
Unfortunately, it is not working that well for me-- When I follow the link created by the template, it redirects to the main page; maybe my browser is choking on it? I'm using Firefox 1.0.4 on Windows... --bleh fu talk fu June 28, 2005 15:07 (UTC)
It's the software upgrades. Should return to normal in a matter of time. « alerante ✆ ✉ » 28 June 2005 18:18 (UTC)
Hi Bleh, another reason is that when PAGENAME is used, spaces in page names are not translated so only the first word ends up in the URL, and the non-existent result is redirected to the main page. The solution is to use PAGENAMEE instead which translates spaces to underscores (see Help:Variable). This feature is a bit misunderstood so the template has been changed back and forth many times, leading to occasional problems with composite-name users (such as you and me). As of this writing it should work correctly. BTW Bleh I see you live in Montreal, so do I; I hope the heat is not bothering you too much these days. :) Lawrence Lavigne June 28, 2005 22:52 (UTC)
Gah... still not working. http://%65%6e%2e%77%69%6b%69%70%65%64%69%61%2e%6f%72%67/%77%69%6B%69/User:Lawrence_Lavigne, http://%65%6e%2e%77%69%6b%69%70%65%64%69%61%2e%6f%72%67/%77%69%6B%69/User:Bleh_fu still brings me back to the main page. Gah! Do these links work for other people? And BTW, at 42 degrees with humidex, I simply cannot function. I hate it :/ --bleh fu talk fu June 29, 2005 01:34 (UTC)
Let's wait until 1.5 comes out of beta before making any changes --Alterego June 29, 2005 02:53 (UTC)

I added HTML entities for the link text. « alerante ✆ ✉ » 21:18, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

I tried it, it works, but it invalidates my cookies since the URL and the cookie domain don't match I'm not logged in. I say we should stick with the variable version. it makes the code more portable to other wikis. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 00:23, 2005 September 10 (UTC)
Greetings ! I don't agree with any of this at all. There should be no necessity of doing those things if we could, instead, just agree on a policy with wikipedia content mirrors. For example it would be much better if we could add a flag to the text so that no replacing on the text should be done:
 __WIKIPEDIA_ORIGINAL_CONTENT__
 This is a Wikipedia user page, etc, etc, etc.

--Hdante 17:30, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

But a large majority of forks and mirrors make only a minimal effort to comply with the GFDL, if any effort at all. æle ✆ 21:25, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Table-less template?

Perhaps we should use a table-less template, like the one I've prepared at my own user page. It renders slightly differently in every geek's "favourite" web browser :P (but still looks pretty good). – TTD Bark! (pawprints) 01:43, 2005 Apr 12 (UTC)

[edit] Fork

There is a fork of this page at Template:Userpage2 in which the table has 100% width and is not centered and the Wikimedia logo is on the right side. —Lowellian (talk) 02:34, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)

I replaced this template with your fork...no need for that. It should go up on templates for deletion --Alterego June 29, 2005 02:54 (UTC)
I only made the fork because I was trying to be considerate of other users who may not have preferred my changes. —Lowellian (talk) 02:58, July 26, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 100%

I added 100% to the width so that this template stretches across the page. Cheers! --Analogdemon (talk) 19:29, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

I reverted this because it absolutely doesn't work with some people's user pages (look at mine and you might see why). If you want to make an alternate template, that's fine by me, but a change like that breaks a number of peoples user pages. Sarge Baldy 01:58, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] blanks

Why are there blanks ({{blank}}) on the template? They are really annoying. Thelb4 20:27, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

To keep forks from replacing Wikipedia with their own project name. « alerante ✆ ✉ » 21:58, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
It's broken in my browser, it shows a rectangle. Would a nowiki tag work instead? -- Norvy (talk) 07:57, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
If {{blank}} wasn't protected, I'd change it back to nothing. --SPUI (talk) 21:59, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] More escape sequencing

I have changed all instances of "Wikipedia" in this template to using hexadecimal ASCII character codes, with an added comment section inside, in an effort to stop external sites messing with this template when they import user pages. - Mark 08:04, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

I changed the fixed-width hexadecimal entites to decimal entities. Entities don't need those leading zeroes, and decimal entities are more widely supported by browsers. Some older browsers don't understand hex entities despite the fact that Unicode codepoints are usually represented in hex. Comes out a few bytes smaller, too.
— J’raxis (T) 17:30, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Userpage_mini

I've created a {{Userpage mini}} template to complement this one. It's designed to be smaller and less prominent, so people who want the notice—but don't want it standing out so much—can have it. See its talk page. — J’raxis (T) 17:39, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] WikiVote

I know it has been stated that we should try not to vete on everything in Wikipedia, and probaby this is not the most appropriate page to ask, however:

  1. I did not find a substitute page in which I could raise the question. If you indicate me the right page, I will move the thread there]
  2. I think it would be a nice ide to vote for the "Best User Page". I do not wish for wikipedia to become a low level community were we concentrate on many things other than the article, but:
    • That is a problem that can be solved through intelligent presence of the administrators.
    • We should consider the fact that Wikipedia is not merely about the article, it is a community first of all.
    • A vote of this type is innocuous, in my humble opinion.

Federico Pistono 18:22, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Nervermind, I created an article. Wikipedia:Votes_for_best_User_page Federico Pistono ✆ ✍ 16:49, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Interwiki links

ko:Template talk:사용자 ko:Template talk:사용자

[edit] Use of copyrighted image

This template uses Image:Wikimedia.png. According to the image page, that image is copyrighted. Doesn't that mean we're not allowed to use it on user pages? --Angr (tɔk) 11:34, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

It's owned by the Wikimedia Foundation, but I'm not sure if that makes it less of a problem. æle ✆ 20:34, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] substitute?

Shouldn't we be substituting these pages in just in case the mirror site do not have the templates working properly? -- WB 03:57, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

You may if you wish; I have no real opinion either way. æle ✆ 10:58, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What is the point of this template?

Why do we have this template? I have seen it on a number of webpages but don't quite see its point.--Max Talk (add) • Contributions 00:31, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

I understand it a bit better now, but why is it only used on userpages? Why is it used as an optional thing?--Max Talk (add) • Contributions 08:15, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Certain forks copy user pages as well as the actual content, and many contributors were displeased with the fact that this made them appear to be users on those projects. This template is used to let people know that someone has an account only on Wikipedia, complete with hacks to keep forks from changing the word "Wikipedia" through automatic scripts. æle ✆ 14:10, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] template name

Shouldn't this be User page (2 words) instead of Userpage to conform with WP:UP? Westfall 04:24, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

It's easier to type. æle ✆ 21:03, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deleting of Userpages

User:Gmaxwell has vandalized my page, by deleting it and redirecting it to talk. I have repaired the damage, but wondering if anyone else has had their userpages vandalized by Gmaxwell?

MSTCrow 01:51, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure how this is related to the template...? --Anna512 (talk) 12:44, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Usertalkpage

In case anyone else thinks it us useful, rather than subst:ing and hacking this template about, as I have seen people doing, I thought it was worth creating a separate template for user talk pages (above). -- ALoan (Talk) 14:21, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Cool, I like it. heqs 16:14, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
We can change the message with {{#if:}} and namespace checks on this template as well, can't we? æle ✆ 2006-05-01t20:01z
Looks like someone recreated the deleted Template:Talkpage. heqs 15:55, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
That was me. I prefer that over some other ones I've seen. --Brazucs (TALK | CONTRIBS) 13:35, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Unencycpage

I'm not sure if this would be good or not, but I attempted to generalize this template and Template:Usertalkpage into one template (autofilling in the namespace using some magic words. I think it would be good for labeling unencyclopedic wikipedian/wikipedia-culture oriented pages. Let me know what you think --Charlie( @CIRL | talk | email ) 04:23, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Ooh, neat. We could merge all of the user (talk) templates into this. æle ✆ 2006-05-30t14:01z

[edit] This is not an encyclopedia article

Shouldn't that be changed to "This is not an encyclopedic article"? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Brazucs (talk • contribs) 09:36, June 1, 2006.

No. In wiki-speak, "encyclopedic" means "worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia". Ashibaka tock 00:43, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Add this please

[[tr:Kullanıcı sayfası]] --Cat out 15:43, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Done. —Ruud 17:32, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Use SVG logo

Image:Wikimedia-logo.svg

I don't see any reason not to — Mobius 06:33, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Irish language WP

Can someone add this, please? [[ga:Teimpléad:Userpage]] [1] - Thanks! - Alison✍ 10:46, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Done :-) --Commander Keane 06:42, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Thank you! :) - Alison✍ 07:48, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia logo

I think it would be a good idea that we include the Wikipedia logo as well as the Wikimedia logo in the template. It would make it easier for other people to identify the user page as a Wikipedia user page because the Wikipedia logo is there. Without it, some people might get confused because the visual link between Wikipedia and Wikimedia isn't there. I've done this on my user page. Harryboyles 08:11, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Interwiki link

Interwikilink to [[de:Vorlage:Wikimedia-Benutzer]] would be nice.--Plaicy 22:38, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Done. Kusma (討論) 07:25, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] This template

Shouldn't this template be redesigned? --Meno25 15:04, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] removal of the logo

from http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikimedia_visual_identity_guidelines :

Logo usage

  • The colored Wikimedia logo should always be used on a white or very light gray background (max. 15% black), never on a colored background.
  • The logo should not be turned around or distorted
"This styleguide is official policy of the Foundation.--Jimbo Wales 21:59, 25 February 2006 (UTC)"

-- Drini 03:20, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

So, are the options 1) no image, 2) new image, 3) change box's background color to a shade of gray? I'm in favor of white background with a stronger border - Davandron | Talk 17:34, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
I suppose white or a VERY lyght gray background would work. -- Drini 23:42, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
I suggest a white background. --AAA! (AAAA • AAAAAAAA) 08:17, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
I suppose a white background. --hashikure(talk) 02:36, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edit request: Border Color

The border color is pink. Pink? Could we change the color to something a little less baby girls room. I don't care, something neutral. As long as it's not pink. Veracious Rey talk ↔ contribs 04:41, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

I didn't quite fulfill your request; instead, I've added a few parameters to the template. You'll be able to change (a) the border color, (b) the border width, and (c) the background color. I didn't change any of the defaults, but hopefully the ability to customize it will keep people happier. Examples:
{{Userpage
  |border-c= 
  |border-s= 
  |background=
}}
As an example, {{Userpage|border-c=#000000|background=#fffff}} will give you a white background, black border, and will keep the current default of a 1-pixel wide border. You can keep the template code on multiple lines, as above, or on one line, as in this example.
If you need any help beyond that, let me know. Luna Santin 21:58, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The bit about mirror sites

I don't understand the part of the template that reads, "If you find this page on any site other than Wikipedia, you are viewing a mirror site." If I copy the page and put it on my own personal website, and someone else finds it there, that doesn't make my website a mirror site. Perhaps the wording of the sentence doesn't convey the intended message. —Largo Plazo 16:38, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Then don't copy the template...? æ² ✆ 2007‑01‑13t18:55z
I'm sorry, did you mean to imply that if a template doesn't make sense or is unclear or contains a falsehood, the solution is not to fix the template but to advise people not to use it any more? I don't see the merits of your suggestion. —Largo Plazo 19:32, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
This is the best I can think to do, under the circumstances. If you want a bigger change, I suggest the village pump or admin noticeboard. Luna Santin 00:34, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
If you manually copy the page and put it on your Web site, you don't need to copy {{userpage}} along with it. (Automatically scraping its contents is a different matter.) æ² ✆ 2007‑01‑15t20:21z
It isn't a question of that. It's a question of the words as somebody reads them. I can copy that page, like any page, for a mirror site. I can copy that page, like any page, to put on a site that isn't a Wikipedia mirror. In both cases, the whole purpose is to tell the reader that he's reading the page on a mirror site—but maybe he is, and maybe he isn't. I really don't see the point of the message at all. —Largo Plazo 20:26, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
If the page is copied verbatim, that's by definition a mirror of that page. It doesn't mean that the other site mirrors or forks all of Wikipedia. æ² ✆ 2007‑01‑16t14:32z
The words in the template were "You are viewing a mirror site". That was the whole reason I brought this up. If, on the other hand, the template had said only, "You are viewing a mirror page," there still wouldn't be any point to it because, as you note, it would be a mirror page by definition. It would be like putting a note on every page on one's website reading, "This is a web page." René Magritte would enjoy it, but it wouldn't serve any substantive purpose. —Largo Plazo 15:36, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
The point is so someone can easily tell you're a member of Wikipedia, not Fact-Monster or whatever the mirror of the day is. Superm401 - Talk 09:41, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
That's a pretty inventive explanation considering that's not what the template message says. And it still doesn't alter the fact that what it does say can as easily be untrue as true. —Largo Plazo 12:21, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
Actually, that's exactly the message that this template is intended to communicate: that user pages may be copied by forks and mirrors of Wikipedia, and that the users whose pages have been copied may not necessarily contribute to the fork or mirror. æ² ✆ 2007‑01‑17t18:52z
What does that have to do with the truth value of the statement "You are [probably] viewing a mirror site"? Without the "probably", it's a sentence that may be true but that may just as well be false, so it's of no value. With the probably—well, I'd be inclined to stick {{fact}} after it regarding the use of the word "probably". —Largo Plazo 20:44, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
You can't cover every single possible use of a Wikipedia user page. Most copies are made by mirrors that use copies of Wikipedia's database, and this is what the template is intended to cover. Not all people who read mirrors are aware that their content is copied from another source. æ² ✆ 2007‑01‑18t15:03z
The bottom line is to draw the user's attention to the fact that if the page being looked at isn't on the Wikipedia site at the URL shown, it's a copy and the user may not be a user of the site being looked at. This is all covered by the message excluding the second sentence. The second sentence adds nothing of value. What it does add is a reference to the concept of "mirror sites", but it may or may not be correct about that, and in any event the only thing that matters is whether the page the person is looking at is or isn't on the Wikipedia site, and whether it's part of an entire mirror site or just a single page that someone copied simply doesn't matter, and you haven't claimed at any point that it does matter. So why all this resistance to the proposal to just get rid of this one sentence that contributes nothing of value to the message and is unreliable to boot? —Largo Plazo 15:45, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

← The statement "Be aware that the page may be outdated and the user this page belongs to may have no personal affiliation with any site other than Wikipedia itself" would have little context without the explanation in the second sentence. Readers of a mirror would probably wonder why the page is "outdated", especially if they believe that the mirror is the original source. æ² ✆ 2007‑01‑19t22:02z

This whole discussion is ridiculous. The contents of this template show up in three situations:

  • On Wikipedia. An annoying but necessary eyesore.
  • On a mirror site. The whole point of the template.
  • On some random site that insists it's not a mirror, but still mechanically copies the page wholesale. This is either a mirror or a case of "don't do that then".

I see no consensus for a significant change for the template, nor even for the "probably" that Luna put in. Unless someone - anyone - else comes forward with a new argument Real Soon Now, I'm removing that "probably". —Cryptic 23:48, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] request

{{editprotected}} Please remove style="white-space: nowrap" on external link. It is annoying me not wrapping template. --hashikure(talk) 18:22, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

I think it's there for a reason. Not done for now, is there someone who knows why it was put in there? Proto::► 15:55, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Username with non-Latin characters is very long string in utf-8 encoding (for example, my username 端くれの錬金術師 is %E7%AB%AF%E3%81%8F%E3%82%8C%E3%81%AE%E9%8C%AC%E9%87%91%E8%A1%93%E5%B8%AB in utf-8 enconding). So, Template:Username with white-space: nowrap; gets very very wide with non-Latin username.
Try decreasing the width of your browser and compare two templates below.
example 1: with white-space: nowrap;
This is a Wikipedia user page.

This is not an encyclopedia article. If you find this page on any site other than Wikipedia, you are viewing a mirror site. Be aware that the page may be outdated and that the user this page belongs to may have no personal affiliation with any site other than Wikipedia itself. The original page is located at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%E7%AB%AF%E3%81%8F%E3%82%8C%E3%81%AE%E9%8C%AC%E9%87%91%E8%A1%93%E5%B8%AB.
example 2: without white-space: nowrap;
This is a Wikipedia user page.

This is not an encyclopedia article. If you find this page on any site other than Wikipedia, you are viewing a mirror site. Be aware that the page may be outdated and that the user this page belongs to may have no personal affiliation with any site other than Wikipedia itself. The original page is located at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%E7%AB%AF%E3%81%8F%E3%82%8C%E3%81%AE%E9%8C%AC%E9%87%91%E8%A1%93%E5%B8%AB.
--hashikure(talk) 04:57, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Neither wraps. Turning off the "nowrap" style doesn't change the fact that the url is still all one word. --Random832 14:37, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This template is uncategorized

This section is simply to give me somewhere to drop the uncat category in (Category:Uncategorized templates).--ais523 11:30, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

I discovered which category this should be in; would an admin please noinclude this into Category:User namespace templates for me? --ais523 11:33, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Done. – Luna Santin (talk) 23:31, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
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