Talk:Urmston

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[edit] closure of woodsend school

i don't think that "Recently elected Conservatives decided to close Woodsend Primary School to save money" should be included as such without a citation. stating the sole reason as "to save money" may well be accurate (i don't know) but without a citation it makes the article read as biased, rather than as factual account. it seems from other sources that the reason was surplus school spaces in the area.

edit: surplus school spaces in the school itself, not the area:

http://www.trafford.gov.uk/cme/live/dynamic/DocMan2Document.asp?document_id=AAC6DF60-C69E-495A-820E-3F0FA3354F3E

[edit] facts about The Trafford Centre

Whether The Trafford Centre is in an area that was once a part of Urmston or not doesn't alter the fact that information about The Trafford Centre ought to be in the entry for The Trafford Centre and referenced from here, not repeated here. Malleus Fatuarum

The Trafford Centre plays a major part of Urmston life with a large amount of Urmstonains working there and the large impact it has made on life in the town. A small precis of it is worthwhile, but referencing it from the Urmston article is also workable. (Quentin X 16:37, 27 March 2007 (UTC))

The Trafford Centre plays a major part of Stretford life as well. Are you suggesting that another precis of it would also be worthwhile in the Stretford article? And in every one of the articles about the other surrounding towns? It doesn't make sense to me to repeat the same facts about The Trafford Centre (its size, retailers, facilities and so on) in several different places rather than keeping them together in one place.

IMO the only valid comments to be made about The Trafford Centre in an article about Urmston are those specific to Urmston's relationship with The Trafford Centre. Like the fact that the Dumplington site on which The Trafford Centre is built was once a part of Urmston for instance. (---- Eric 17:19, 27 March 2007 (UTC))

I am not suggesting that it doesn't need pruning but to say that The Trafford Centre is on the outskirts of Urmston and that is it would be to the detriment of the article. Nor would I suggest keeping it out of the Stretford or Eccles articles. Moving futher afield would be a tenuous. Are you suggesting we include Sale, Altrincham and Salford. How about the coach parties that come from Clywd? (Quentin X 22:48, 27 March 2007 (UTC))

That's exactly my point. Details about The Trafford Centre - its size, retailers inside and so on - should be in the Trafford centre article. An article about Urmston, Stretford, Sale etc. should include The Trafford Centre in their own contexts, as a major employer, competitor to their own shopping centre, or important local resource for instance. As the Stretford article in fact already does. ---- Eric 14:15, 28 March 2007 (UTC)