Talk:Urinary urgency

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Urgency → Urinary urgency –

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Urgency is a medical symptoms. I think it should be included in Wikipedia.

When I searched for the page "Urgency" in wikipedia, I couldn't find any relevant results. Actually I want to know more about this. It's really disappointing that no one has started this page. So I just want to start it, and then other professionals help to expand the page.

If you think that copying the definition from another page is infringing copyright, I can rephrase that sentence with my own words. That's fine... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hahagood (talk • contribs).

Disappointed...

BTW, I don't know how to add a "Please help to expand this page" headnote

I'm new to wiki... but my suggestion is being considered "to be deleted". You see how disappointed I am. Wiki doesn't welcome newcomers...

First of all, welcome, newcomer! You should know that having your page edited doesn't constitute lack of welcome: bold edits are expected here, and you shouldn't be worried if your work gets edited. That's the nature of the community.

Secondly, I marked your initial contribution for "speedy delete" because it was copied from an external Web site. Copying things like that is illegal, and, of course, against wikipedia policy ([[[WP:COPY]]). Since you've updated the entry to your own wording, I'm going to remove the "speedy delete." However, I think that you'd be better off putting this entry into a subheading under urination rather than as its own topic. Either way, Urgency is the wrong title; if anything, it should be Urinary urgency.

I'll give you a few days to make these changes yourself before jumping in again. Take a look at the WP:HELP pages and see if you can figure out how this should work. Let me know if you have any questions.

P.S. When you make a comment on a talk page, you should end it with --~~~~ to insert your signature. --Graham 07:24, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply.

I don't mind that my page is edited. Indeed I very much want some professionals to correct or expand this page. But when I think this topic is worth inclusion in the wikipedia encyclopedia, someone suggests it be deleted, It's quite disappointing...

I've taken a look at the page urination. It does have one or two sentence about urgency named "Urge Incontinence". But just as Polyuria, Urgency is also a medical symptom. People would want much more than just one or two sentences when they search for it. (But sorry I'm not an expert and I cannot help expand ><")

That's why I opened up a page dedicated to Urgency, just as Polyuria having its own page.

The term Urgency itself is enough to mean an urge to urinate, though I agree it'll be less ambiguous if "Urinary Urgency" is used. I'll try to fix it. But in case I have not, you may just delete this page. That's fine. People still can find urgency in google, etc.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hahagood (talk • contribs).

*Don't be disappointed; just because you believe something to be encyclopedic doesn't make it so. It's happened to all of us.

*Sign your comments, as requested. Use ~~~~ at the end. You should indent replies, too.

*I'm still not buying this as a separate category unless you can expand it into an article of substance. An article is different from a definition --- take a look at WP:NOT under "WP is not a dictionary." --Graham 08:02, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you again for your reply. Okay I'm now not disappointed. I'm a newcomer there are many things I have to learn. Thank you for teaching me about all these things.

Actually there can be more things to be added, say conditions that present with the symptom. But first I'm not an expert in this. Second I do not have time to do searches for this.

Okay you can delete this post. If in the future I have more than just the definition to write about this topic, I shall create it again. Thanks.

Hahagood 08:37, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Fine. If you really think that this article is worth nothing, just delete it. Sigh... Byebye

Graham I know that you are a good preson and i shouldn't have said anything offensive. Sorry ><""" Hahagood 09:18, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Nope, nothing offensive here at all; not sure what you're referring to. I've worked as a copy editor, and I've found that at least 90% of writing is editing and organization. The reason WP is so useful is that we all take the time to put things where they belong. The primary goal, in my opinion, is clarity.

You'll note that I never questioned that the article should exist (except when it was in violation of copyright), just where it should go. And I'm very open to being convinced. I hope I haven't given you the impression that I'm somehow more likely to be right than you are; we're both, in WP parlance, "editors," and you have as much right to argue your point as I. --Graham 09:36, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Graham, I don't want the article be deleted. But if you find that it's not sophisticated enough (I think that way too), you may place a suitable deletion request. But please don't put an author requested one, I didn't mean that. Anyway you are more experienced in this sort of thing that I am.

If there's a medical professional to discuss this topic here, I bet he or she will certainly welcome a page for urinary urgency.

I realize that Wikipedia is not "anyone can edit", but "Anyone can use, Expert/Professionals can edit" But I'm not a professional. Thank you very much. See you~ Hahagood 09:43, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

I'd like to second the suggestion that the article be renamed Urinary urgency, or written (as Graham suggested) as a section of Urination. I don't have a strong opinion between those two options. I have trouble seeing how an uninformed reader would guess that an article entitled Urgency would be about a medical condition. --Waitak 15:14, 30 July 2006 (UTC)