Talk:Urban75/Archive 1

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Archive This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page.

This archive was created on 29 September, 2005, to take from the main talk page a lot of discussions that seemed to have no relevance to Wikipedia or to the article, but seemed rather to be flame wars or continuations of flame wars pertaining solely to Urban 75. --Tony SidawayTalk 14:06, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

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Banned from Urban 75?

I've removed the following note from the page, posted as a comment by User:Ernestolynch:

"WARNING TO URBAN75 USERS - If you edit this article you risk being banned from urban75"

I'm unsure why this might be the case - in any case, I haven't been banned from the website, but thought that the talk page was the best place to raise any issues. Warofdreams 11:12, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Yeah it's pretty borderline, even as an html comment. For one thing, there's the issue you raise of whether its true or not, and there's also the point that we don't need to do the warning. We don't care if people get banned from it, it's not our site. Let them warn and ban people if they want to. Besides, now it's on the talk page, it doesn't need to be in the article edit text. - Taxman Talk 11:56, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
It's clearly true, as a bit of research will show. At least two users have been banned for editing this article, and seeing as most of the edits on this page are by urban users, I felt they ought to be warned that Eddie Tor thinks he rules wikipedia too. Most people won't bother to read this talk page, so a comment in the source is the only way to inform people. Ernestolynch 14:06, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
You're taking it out of context - any users who add inaccurate or malicous content (as editor put it, 'fuck about') with the wikipedia article will be banned from Urban75 if identified. Thenugga 16:05, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
Which roughly translates to, "If anyone disagrees with me or in fact fails to worship the ground I walk on it's banning time", much the way urban is run in general. Good argument for pseudonimity methinks. BTW, editing other people's comments is generaly considered bad form.Ernestolynch 16:54, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
Seeing as the wikiuser calling himself 'thenugga' (aka a relatively new U75 poster called exleper) and the wikiuser calling himself 'Warofdreams' (who refuses to identify which username he posts on U75 as) have both put up inaccurate content on wikipedia, especially in regard to 'Forum Culture', one could easily be led to think that this was used to remove another poster who refuses to worship the 'Editor', along with Anna Key, Ace, Hatboy, Freethepeeps, TopCat and so on - all long-term posters whose personalities didn't fall into line with the corporate/media friendly brand image that is 'Urban75' - an online curriculum vitae for the self-proclaimed 'online anarchist guerrilla journalist' (sponsored by Sony)....

By the way the poster calling himself 'ernestolynch' on here is not the long-term poster calling himself 'ernestolynch' on 'Urban75', and who is now banned. Just to clear things up for the gestapo.

ernestolynch

It transpires, with a little bit of research, that the wikiuser called 'ernestolynch' is not only someone impersonating the former U75 poster called 'ernestolynch', but is one of the U75 posters long-regarded as being an 'enemy' of his. Quite good work by this cyber-bodysnatcher.

I didn't want to go here, but let's be quite clear about this. Whoever posted under the IP address 86.130.212.205 has been positively identified as being "ernestolynch" on U75 by cross-referencing IPs and times of posting with that username. There were warnings, the warnings were bumped so that he would be aware of them (as he was actually on another ban at the time of the original warning), he ignored them while indicating that he was clearly aware of them by his edits, and he has now been banned. This isn't a Wikipedia issue. I think Wikipedia has had enough boring U75 board politics by a long stretch. I have no idea whether "Ernestolynch" here is the same person and neither does anyone else with access to IP data from Urban. --Fridgemagnet 19:58, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
Which begs the question - who is the impersonator? A member of the management? Loki, Lock+Light, Belboid or Dubversion? Strikes me as being very convenient indeed.
"Ernestolynch"'s postings were entirely irrelevant to you getting banned, which was all based on things done under your IP address. And it's still not a Wikipedia issue. --Fridgemagnet 20:31, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
I don't give a monkeys whether "I'm" banned from Urban75/Sony. It's been going downhill for ages, Mister Mackay. I just want to know who's been using "ernestolynch" on here.
"Which begs the question - who is the impersonator? A member of the management? Loki, Lock+Light, Belboid or Dubversion? Strikes me as being very convenient indeed." Well it certainly wasn't me, and I haven't pointed the finger. My only edit was to remove a rather unpleasant slur against myself and i_hate_beckham. - Loki


I now suspect that this phantom wikiuser called 'Ernestolynch' is actually Captain Mainwaring himself. Some convenient-tastick ruse to make the former poster known as 'ernestolynch' (note lower case) look like he gives a shit about being deported from his little Sony-licious messageboard. It's a well-kept secret that many of the moderators post under alternative usernames on U75 to curb debate, quell dissent and send threads bin-ward.

See Mainwaring's own guide to 'creating online communities': http://www.urban75.org/tech/bulletin_board.html, where the curmudgeonly bank manager states,

"If your boards are proving as popular as a wet night in Aberdare, you may have to pull a few strokes to liven things up.

Try registering under a host of different names and starting no-holds-barred argument with yourself on a host of controversial topics.

But you're playing for high stakes - if people suss out that the community is in fact a collection of your argumentative alter-egos, they'll be gone forever."

Unless they are billy-no-mate blow-ins to Brixton that is...


How dare you! I know for a FACT that editor and fridge magnet DO NOT have other user-names in which they post! The fact that other people lose arguments against them IS THEIR FAULT, not ours...as any (right-thinking) poster would no doubt agree with. Run a poll - we'll see who is right! William of Walworth 16:33, 18 September 2005 (UTC)


Flimsier

Please someone run a poll to see that this sub-ern troll is banned. I don't want him banned, but if people think so, and agree with me that I AM THE NICER PERSON, maybe, maybe the moderators should do something. It's time people like him were gone from urban. Yes. Poll. William of Walworth 16:38, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Are there any effective remedies for MPD these days? --Fridgemagnet 19:20, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
The above comment was meant in a light-hearted manner, and in no way should be taken in offence. Urban75 takes the issues surrounding mental health and mental illness very seriously. We also donate regularly from our funds to several mental health charities. Urban75 Editor 05:48, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
Thank you Mike. TeeJay 08:06, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

Editing of this article

A warning to all. No further editing of this article by anyone other than myself or Fridgemagnet is permitted. Further, I require the person editing under the name of 'Warofdreams' to identify their Urban75 username below, to avoid causing me more hassle. Urban75 Editor 13:34, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, where did you get the authority to prohibit things on Wikipedia? Morwen - Talk 13:56, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
This is not the Urban75 Editor. --Fridgemagnet 14:05, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
Err, check PMs, Fridge. Urban75 Editor 14:16, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
Also, "Kid Eternity", "William of Walworth", "R.I.C.O." and "TeeJay" are not the posters with those usernames on U75, though for non-users I suppose they wouldn't mean anything anyway. --Fridgemagnet 14:23, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
Yes I am R.I.C.O. Or I was anyway before I left that ghastly messageboard. R.I.C.O. 14:31, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
Nice try, using the name of someone who's left. But the real R.I.C.O. has already emailed mods to say that this isn't him. --Fridgemagnet 14:39, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
No I haven't. Why would I after none of you stuck up for me when the UKP+P clique ganged up on me? They - Butchersapron, past caring and LLETSA were stalking me and you did not ban them. Please stop the lies, fridgemagnet. R.I.C.O. 14:48, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
I'd just like to inform everyone that the person posting on here under the name "R.I.C.O." is'nt actually "R.I.C.O." from urban75 - I never registered under that name (I edit entries on Wikipedia under my real name, R****** W****. My urban name was changed due to work reasons, and I decided to leave urban75 after my workload increased substantially. I don't even post like that either - and I don't go round naming names that mean very little outside the context of the board. So whoever you are, get a life, eh? Are'nt you supposed to be a teacher?
Pretty lame effort that, whoever you are. R.I.C.O. 16:08, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
There's no R****** W**** in the wikipedia user: namespace.Tom k&e 16:23, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

Quality trolling

This is some pretty good trolling going on right here. Sorry we ever brought Ernie along. Tom k&e 16:23, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

Your telling me - somebody is posting in wikipedia under my former username! Ive informed the editor of urban75 by the way, and I will be asking them for an IP match so I can find out who it is. I enjoyed posting on urban75, and I don't want someone posing as my old username dragging the site through the mud. My authenticity as the real "R.I.C.O." can be proved by both the editor and the rest of the mods. I think its in their best interests to get this character banned from wikipedia. R****** W****, 19th September 2005.

Will you stop claiming to be me with these ludicrous unverified posts? Where were you when the P+P bullies were hounding me about that old racist? R.I.C.O. 16:55, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
Who are you? What's P+P? I've never used that term. R****** W****, 19th September 2005
Once again - I'd like to inform all urban75 users that the person masquerading as "R.I.C.O." is not actually R.I.C.O. from urban75. R****** W**** , 19th September 2005
Well you are persistent, I'll give you that. Now - who are you - Butchersapron? Past Caring? Chuck Wilson? LLETSA (Wanker)? Why did you lie about posting under my real name? And please stop putting my real name on the internet. And you, Tom, what do you mean 'we brought Ernie along'? Is ernestocunt behind all this? R.I.C.O. 17:57, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
Have'nt you got anything better to do with your time, ern? I know the banning from urban75 has hit you hard but there's no need to be bitter! If you know me so much, on what day was I born? This is gonna make me laugh. Ernestocunt? You think I'd really mess around with usernames in that utterly lame, witless way? You can do better than that! And in any case, when I do finally decide to go back to urban75 after finishing my caseload, I'd like to see you log in as R.I.C.O., because you don't know what the password is, do ya! Sucker! Richard White, 19th September 2005.


Richard White/R.I.C.O.

Whichever one of you it is - please tell me (and others) where your evidence is that Walter Chamberlain is a racist and was shouting racist slogans before he was beaten up by a gang of youths. Spirit of Vengeance 06:16, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

What's your evidence that he was'nt?

"Spirit of Vengeance" (God, are you a goth or something?)

Whoever you are, (and I have my ideas) I've left urban75 for pastures new, so if you want to bring up topics discussed in that site with a non-member, this is'nt the time or the place. I don't have time for pedantic and patronising fuckwits like yourself who seem hell bent on following former users around as if its their only purpose in life. I am no longer posting on urban75, and I wanted to inform the editor of the site that it was'nt me pissing about with the wikipedia entry. So fuck you. Jesus, this is so pathetic. You'd think that people would actually have better things to do with their time. Like a job. ---Richard White, 20th September 2005, GETTING BORED WITH ALL THIS BOLLOCKS.

Very funny Ern. Dubversion 12:26, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
Nice to see that he likes to cock around with people's messages too - I have nothing against people on JSA, I was on it myself for 4 months this year. Good troll, is'nt he? -- Richard White, 20th September 2005
So you DID NOT write the words 'dole-ite layabout'? [[1]]Why are you trying to lie again? You MUST BE the real Richard White then. Spirit of Vengeance 13:15, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

Why in the name of G-D are you trying to misrepresent me here? I have nothing against the unemployed types. I have just been emailed by the mods at urban to warn me about this trolling. I shall complain to the highest authorities, you watch. R.I.C.O. 13:42, 20 September 2005 (UTC)


Trolling by User:Fridgemagnet and User:Warofdreams

Would the above users please use the discussion pages to justify their persistent editing of this article. The position of the user called Fridgemagnet as a manager on the messageboard which this article is about does not entitle him to edit-war this piece.

Similarly Warofdreams, although he may be an expert on African countries and Trotskyite sects in England, is vastly unaware of the topic he is obsessively editing. Go Ahead Eagles 11:18, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

For the benefit of other readers: the original edits by 86.134.80.52 which have been reverted by myself and Warofdreams were unjustified in discussion, untrue anyway (apart from the one on "Political correctness gone mad" which I'd accept) and contained a whole load of irrelevancies designed simply to give the impression, yet again, that a certain tiny subset of banned posters were being unfairly treated. I'm not arguing with sockpuppets but if anyone else is interested I'll expand. --Fridgemagnet 12:10, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
Note that User:Go Ahead Eagles is the latest sockpuppet of the user also responsible for User:Urban75 Editor and the other "users" created merely to constantly place irrelevant information into this article. Warofdreams talk 12:32, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

So Fridgemagnet, you would be prepared to ask a general cross-section of U75 posters, and not just this conveniently anonymous 'Warofdreams' and your usual line-up of sycophants, whether the following statements are true:

ernestolynch coined the 'rascist!!! 3 rolleyes and a :mad: phrase; he also coined a few others. rorymac started the other and oddjob and rednblack the others. Your dishonest rewriting of history in order to make you sound more interesting than the sort of person who takes pictures of his breakfast and puts it on his inane website is making you look like a right fool. 212.85.15.66 13:20, 22 September 2005 (UTC)


This is not ernestolynch by the way, but someone who has posted for longer than you on u75, and cannot post these comments due to your current power-crazed paranoia. 212.85.15.66 13:22, 22 September 2005 (UTC)


Ernestolynch here, I've just been emailed this latest bit of tomfoolery that the internerds seem to be up to. I definitely started the 'Rascist!!!' catchphrase, as well as the *bangs on perspex screen*. Lord knows why that Fridgemagnet is acting all authoritarian on Wiki about it, and lying to the Wiki editors. Rorymac definitely started the *shakes fist* one, and rednblack did the "Bin/ban/etc:mad:" expression. As for the bookmarks - well oddjob was banned for 24 hours for that, as well as "pissflaps". Maybe Generalissimo Fridgemagnet would like to explain why he believes these to be 'untruths', and back his paranoid claims with some evidence?

Love the trolling on here though, glad to see the hell has been unleashed by the legions. 86.134.80.52 15:30, 22 September 2005 (UTC)


Edited to add: a bit sick for Fridgemagnet to be using mental illness as a snide joke. Amazing what he can get away with here, maybe those alternative usernames he uses on Urban75 are so he can let off steam there. Ern. 86.134.80.52 15:33, 22 September 2005 (UTC)


Furthermore - Who the hell is this 'Warofdreams' character? It must be one of the UKP+P trots, but who would have a barnet like that? Were his sidies burnt off while he was playing dungeons and dragons? It must be Cockneyrebel! 86.134.80.52 15:36, 22 September 2005 (UTC)


Members to be banned from Urban75 once their identities are revealed

In line with Captain Mainwaring and Penfold's decree that people who edit this article are to be banned (for brand violation and misrepresentation of the party line), here is a list of the fiends:

  • Thenugga aka exleper, an U75 member since Nov 2004
  • Warofdreams aka ***Identity Unknown*** (see below)
  • Smileyrepublic aka ***Unknown*** rumoured to be 'Chio'.
  • R.I.C.O. goes by the same alias on U75.
  • Ernestolynch not the U75 ernestolynch, but rumoured to be an alias of errant U75 Moderator 'Fridgemagnet'.

More later!!! 212.85.15.94 13:36, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Identity of 'Warofdreams'

This wiki user has been involved in some catastrophic edit-warring on this article. Let's look at the evidence. He claims to come from Sheffield, although he most probably is some sort of perpetual student there. He's definitely a Trotskyite, and aged around 33. His clothes and hair suggest someone into role-playing games such as Dungeons and Dragnons or something. The evidence points to:

  • Belboid - a Trot from Sheffield
  • Cockneyrebel - leader of the Workers' Militia
  • Rebel Warrior - a bizarre Trot ladyboy

naah -WarofDreams is exactly who he says he is ern, as you noted back in may, or somesuch time. and stop capitalising me old bean, eh?

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