Talk:Uplift Universe

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Contents 1 Not a trilogy 2 More Uplift novels? 3 Levels of space 4 Fictional planets category

[edit] Not a trilogy

The novels, Sundiver, Startide Rising, and The Uplift War are not really a trilogy in any meaningful sense. They were called "the Uplift trilogy" because at one time they were the only three books set in this background. But they all have stand-alone plots and seperate characters and settings. MK2 05:36, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I think the Uplift War is the trilogy.Cbdorsett 13:01, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] More Uplift novels?

Is there any info if Brin is going to publish more Uplift novels? Last one is '98... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 00:36, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I think he said he wasn't planning on it in the afterword to the final book of uplift storm.

Actually, the last six words in the afterword to Heaven's Reach (the final book in the Uplift Storm trilogy) are "Hang on. There's more to come." In fact, a short story and a novella taking place in the Uplift Universe can be found on Brin's site. To my knowledge, Brin has given no indication that he's finished with the Uplift Universe. ProgHead777 09:53, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

There's a new novel coming. Some of it can be seen in GURPS Uplift, under the preliminary name Jijo Ascendant. BTW, the text says that Temptations happen _after_ Heaven's Reach, this should be changed to _at the same time as_: at the end of Heaven's Reach we see a huge invasion fleet coming to Jijo, and this is not mentioned in Temptations. Albmont 00:34, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Levels of space

Anyone recall what the various levels of space were? I'm specifically trying to remember which letter was populated by the meme organisms.

There are 5: A, B, C, D and E. E-Space is the one of the meme things. Albmont 00:31, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fictional planets category

I have now twice removed the Category:Fictional planets tag from this article because I feel it is superfluous, unnecessary, and confusing to add this to a category not specifically created for such an article, especially when it is already in a more appropriate related category, Category:Fictional universes. I base my opinion on the following reasons from Wikipedia:Categorization#Some general guidelines:

• 1. Categories are mainly used to browse through similar articles. "Fictional universes" already handles articles about fictional universes like the Uplift Universe. "Fictional planets" collects articles about planets, not every article that talks about a fictional planet.
• 5. An article will often be in several categories. Restraint should be used as categories become less effective the more there are on any given article. There is no compelling reason to add articles that merely include fictional planets to such a category, and it reduces the usefulness of that category to clutter it with related (but not true sibling) topics.

I invite counterarguments. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 21:31, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

As the initial creator of this article, my intention was to describe this interesting universe as a whole. It wasn't meant to describe each particular planet. If people are interested in the Uplift planets, it's my opinion that other separate articles should be created. One could do the same for the many species as well. Dyl 00:07, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I see. I hadn't noticed the lack of Uplift Universe planet articles to include in Category:Fictional planets. That does complicate things a bit. The purpose of categories is to group articles with a specific related theme. Typically one doesn't put an article in a category merely because it mentions things that are in that theme. This is one of a number of aspects of MediaWiki Categories that leave a reason for "List of" articles to exist. A List of fictional planets, which could include both planets with and planets without articles (the latter of which would probably including a link to an article that discussed them, like this one). Categories can only include existing articles. I was going to suggest creating such a list, but I just noticed that that article name is already a redirect to Planets in science fiction, which seems to suit the desire to list groups of planets by fictional universe, including link to each universe's section on planets. In fact, I see that it already includes a line for Uplift Universe. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 03:59, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

My suggestion is for somebody to create a List of Uplift Universe planets (at a minimum) and have Planets in science fiction point to that. Dyl 15:48, 8 March 2006 (UTC)