Template talk:United Kingdom regions

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NB. Most of the contents of this discussion page were written as discussion when the template was Template:United Kingdom regions, including both England regions and other parts of the UK. Then, on September 12 2005, somebody changed the content of the template to limit it to England, and moved it to the new name Template:England regions. A few hours later, somebody else moved the template back to its former name and reverted it to its former content; and recreated Template:England regions via cut-and-paste.

How does this template work? For exmaple when you are on the england page, the england link is not a link. How does that work?

This is a general feature of links from a page to itself, not just for templates. For example, if I type [[Template talk:United Kingdom]] and [[Template talk:United Kingdom regions]] here then the first becomes a link while the second is bolded, i.e. Template talk:United Kingdom and Template talk:United Kingdom regions. --Henrygb 14:28, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Needs to be merged

This template is unnecessary and misleading. It's called "United Kingdom regions", but it is just the Template:United_Kingdom, with the Regions of England added. Either create a separate "Regions of England" template, or put that information in the various "Districts of England" templates (i.e., Template:NE_England). --JW1805 18:41, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

In fact this template lists the 12 NUTS level 1 regions of the UK as used by Eurostat and Office for National Statistics for regional statistics, so it is not misleading. Since someone is as likely to want to go from North East England to Scotland as to South East England, there is no need to remove Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. But the template exists because some Scots do not want to be equated with English regions, ands so is a compromise which came out of Template:United Kingdom. It works and does no harm. So keep. --Henrygb 09:15, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

I understand what you're saying (Although, by that classification, "England" shouldn't even be on here, since it isn't a NUTS region). However, I still don't like this template. It's confusing. My first thought on seeing it was "why aren't the regions of Scotland, Wales, and NI listed?" Also, there are links to 4 articles on this template that do not actualy contain this template (which doesn't conform to Wikipedia standards). Finally, there needs to be a separate "Regions of England" template to match the various other UK regions templates (e.g. Template:Scotland subdivisions, Template:Wales_subdivisions, ...).--JW1805 17:19, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

But Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have a single level of local government. England does not. There is Template:England counties, but that for example does not list Birmingham City Council, which is more substantial than any of the subdivisions of Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland. Greater London is politically and economically more significant that each of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland as a whole. England is peculiar and we have to live with that. --Henrygb 09:18, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Recent Edits

Mais oui!, please explain what you are doing. You have changed the name of this template, and then basically made it a copy of Template:United Kingdom, without any discussion. At least Henrygb gave a reason for why this template should exist. I'm reverting back to the previous version, pending further discussion. --JW1805 17:44, 12 September 2005 (UTC)