Talk:University of Ulster

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[edit] Ollscoil Uladh?

Should the name apear in Irish above the crest - it isn't an official name of the University and hence an Irish (or any other) translation is not valid at this point. This is unlike the Students' Union, who do have a bilingual (English/Irish) policy. Blowmonkey 14:58, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Its important to point out that the text does not imply any officialness. Djegan 19:47, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Founded?

The box says founded in 1968. Should we change it to 1984, or consider those changes as being more akin to the New University of Ulster gobbling up the polytechnic? Timrollpickering 21:47, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I think keep the former date, the arguement can be made that the university was in transition and has a common past. You do however have a point- the royal charter refers to "...a new university institution, known as the “University of Ulster”, be constituted and founded within Northern Ireland..." and this is a very good case for the latter date. But unusually the polytechnic swollowed the university - rather strange in the UK experience! Djegan 23:01, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I have changed the date to 1984 Djegan 19:06, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] University of Dublin, Trinity College & Magee College

Some links on the relationship after the Royal University was dissolved... [1][2][3]

Magee was not a college of Dublin, though it did have an arrangement similar to what exists now with Froebel and the Church of Ireland College of Education where the degrees are granted by the University of Dublin. William Quill 14:01, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Campuses

Would it be practical and benificial to create an article on each campus rather than listing it all in this article; maybe, for instance in the style University of Ulster at Belfast, etc giving each campuses details in a dedicated article? Djegan 18:57, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

I think it would be, when they were added to this article each one only had a few lines. (Template:UU) theKeith 19:12, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
I think so too. The campus sections are still a little lean though. They would maybe need to be filled out a wee bit if they are to have spererate articles. Stu ’Bout ye! 19:15, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
I have created a Coleraine article, it was the largest section, you are right about the other three, they would need a bit of expanding. theKeith 19:42, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

I think at this point it would be prudent to fill/split out University of Ulster at Belfast, University of Ulster at Jordanstown and University of Ulster at Magee rather than maintaining this as a superarticle? It would also reduce the number of cats. Djegan 19:53, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

I did go overboard on the cats, but UU really does have four establishment dates.
But, I tend to disagree with you Djegan; I think that this works quite nicely as a super-article, and I suspect that editors have more expansion to bring to it. There is plenty of academic life and culture that spreads across multiple campuses, and the individual campuses also deserve at least a couple of paragraphs in the main UU article. The Magee College and University of Ulster at Coleraine articles show what the potential is for campus-specific articles (though Magee is somewhat stubby and so far concentrates on pre-1970 history.) Belfast, as the youngest, has least potential, but is certainly encyclopedic, should someone care to write it, and gives something specifc to link to out of an Education in Belfast article.
Inspiration. There are remarkably few universities as featured articles. University of Michigan gets two mentions, but a multi-centre uni that has several 'sub-articles' is Indian Institutes of Technology. There is at least as much potential here. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 18:01, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
(er, no, the two Michigan FAs are University of Michigan and History of Michigan State University. 2 different institutions. Pardon me.) --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 18:07, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] European University Association

Its worth to note that the university is not listed on the current membership list of EUA, but it was a member previously. Djegan 23:46, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Alumni in info box

Is this a useful or clear entry? For universities in the Republic where a clear legal record is needed for Senate elections this is meaningful data, but for other universities it's either guesswork or the number the university alumni office has on record (and the latter really says more about how good the alumni office is at maintaining contacts, and how easy a task that is, than anything else). Timrollpickering 21:46, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Reply at Talk:Queen's University of Belfast#Alumni in info box. Djegan 22:19, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm inclined to remove the stat from the box - I don't think this is clearcut data or useful for comparisons - most universities don't use it and the ones that do have a different method of gathering. Timrollpickering 23:07, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name in use 1968-1984

Prior to 1984 did Coleraine use for day to day purposes "New University of Ulster" or "University of Ulster" as its name? (For similar see "Victoria University of Manchester".) Timrollpickering 15:36, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] University ratings

(I'm posting this to all articles on UK universities as so far discussion hasn't really taken off on Wikipedia:WikiProject Universities.)

There needs to be a broader convention about which university rankings to include in articles. Currently it seems most pages are listing primarily those that show the institution at its best (or worst in a few cases). See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Universities#University ratings. Timrollpickering 21:37, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

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