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State University of New York at Albany? RickK 03:51, 17 Feb 2004 (UTC)
The University's official name is University at Albany, State University of New York. Darkcore 08:35, 21 Feb 2004 (UTC)
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[edit] Noted alumni
Removed *Laila Bella Mustopa(office furniture guru), (B.S. 2000, Political Science) sorry -- google hit the wikipedia entry first. not exactly "noted" unless there's something we're missing here. Please respond here with citations to reconsider.
[edit] Rankings and Admission Claims
20:30, 19 March 2007 (UTC) also in rankings -- are there any better sources for nanotech rankings than Smalltimes? I know this is a real nanoscience publication, but the other rankings come from US News, etc. If there's a more credible source, it should be used even if the school isn't "#1" anymore. FWIW, I googled this and can't find another source of nanotech/nanoengineering ranking.
20:10, 19 March 2007 (UTC)~ moved public ivy claim to rankings. not appropriate in opening paragraph. Also, as I've said elsewhere, there's no real such thing as a "public ivy". This is a made-up term. There's no formal league, list, etc., and 'membership' is determined by whomever makes up the list. Here's my public IVY list: Wichita State, UNC-Chapel Hill (for credibility), Bunker Hill Community College.
04:33, 17 March 2007 (UTC)~~ in the spirit of removing editorial and editorial (promotional and inflammatory) masquerading as "facts", further cleaned up "rankings" section. Normalized language. Added NSF funding rank.
62.50.194.5 00:54, 15 March 2007 (UTC) I pulled admit information -- the section is called "Rankings", not "Admissions", and other schools don't list much else aside from US News if anything. Most of the information here is subjective, apart from the SUNY official data. Not sure why this section is being used to talk about three other specific schools. The information is available easily elsewhere, and the comments below seem more opinion than fact; no footnotes, anecdotes, etc. Princeton review in particular is suspect. This is supposed to be information, not PR rants.
00:54, 15 March 2007 (UTC) Albany's admit rate is way down as well, with record apps.
According to Kiplinger's as well as the National Education trust, Binghamton's admit rate is much lower than the other centers. This year, application have already passed 25,000, they were over 23,000 last year, and Binghamton has the smallest incoming class of the 4 centers.
00:54, 15 March 2007 (UTC) no data for below (e.g., AP credits, etc.)
Additionally, there is more to admission criteria, such as percent of students bringing advanced creadit from AP's, etc. (better than a candidate with the same SAT score and GPA, but no advanced credit). Binghamton has over 92% of incoming students with advanced credit. The point being, for the less than 20% of students who overlap in SAT scores, there are other criteria that likely divide them as candidates. -- maybe so, but no data.
I would agree that UB and SBU both come closer in their admission criteria, but still not as close as implied.
Let's not forget that this is supposed to remain a NPOV article, not promotional material or a means of building equity between schools.
I deleted the note that claimed a student eligible for admission at one SUNY University Center is equally eligable at any another of the 4 centers. Using their very own refrence (http://www.suny.edu/student/downloads/Pdf/2006_Admissions_QF_StateOp.pdf) you'll notice that Albany's middle 50% of SAT scores falls entirely beneath Binghamton's average. In fact, 80% or more of Albany students fall below Binghamton's average (http://albany.askadmission.net/albany/aeresults.aspx?Quser=sat&Ask=Ask) 25% of Binghamton students, for instance, have above a 1360 SAT and above a 95 high school average. That is a rather large desperity. Buffalo and Stony brook do fall closer, however admissions criteria are clearly ordered from least to most selective as follows: Albany, Buffalo, Stony Brook, Binghamton. Additionally, Binghamton has an unusually large (though successful)EOP program which creates average SAT and GPA lower than representative of the typical non-EOP applicant.
Not sure I agree here. It's true that Binghamton has a higher average, but even still with 20% of the Albany class hitting or exceeding the average for Binghamton this is fair overlap. And those two Universities are the bookends on your list, so I think the overlap is really significant. Especially between Albany, SB, and Buffalo. The other campuses seem like hair splitting on admits, and for the current class (2006 freshman) I think the Albany admit rate was significantly lower than buff or sb, and I *think* lower than binghamton although grades/SAT may be similar. Albany published theirs (65% down to 55% admit, with higher grades/SAT), but other campuses have not yet.
I'm not sure I agree with the ordering -- looks to me like Albany * Stony Brook have almost identical freshman admits, Buffalo very close, then a small step to Binghamton.
We'll update it in a few months when the next data set is available in any case. All four SUNY campuses have very large EOP programs. Where is the data than Binghamton's is any larger?
[edit] Notable Students
This is a section for students who stand out in Albany. IE Jon Rabinowitz, while many may not know him outside of Albany, he is still known in the pokerworld, similar to how Ozzy57 who plays poker professionally and at the level/stakes of the pros is not well known by non-poker fanatics but that dosn't mean he isn't noteworthy.
- Removed again - no evidence of notability. Unreferenced, and no relevant google hits (that I can see) for "Jon Rabinowitz" poker. Mr Stephen 19:03, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
- I would vote for non notable, unless poker playing is an esteemed profession well known in the world Chivista 15:25, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Reuqest for help on article
Would anyone with a lot of familiarity with any of the university's departments, aspects, etc. like to jump in and fill in the blanks on anything? I'm a current student here, but I can't possibly cover everything. :) I'm already planning to take my digital camera around campus and grab photos of as much as I can. - Korpios 04:26, 20 Jun 2004 (UTC)
[edit] America East champs... baby! 3/11/2006
The men's BB team is going to the Big Dance! John wesley 21:14, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] No moral victories
No moral victories because the only way to advance is to actually win. John wesley 17:40, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] DJ Smitty section unecessary + needs sources
This section has no cited sources and adds nothing to the article. SUNYA has always had its scandals. heck, when I was there, it had several juicer than this one including some sad ones (rapes, murders and disappearances of students). Someone make a case for the DJ Smitty section or I'll remove it. Also, add appropriate citations.Lisapollison 01:36, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Student Disappearances
I am considering adding a brief section on the two most famous cases of SUNYA student disappearances, that of Karen Wilson (Class of 1986) in 1985 and that of Suzanne Lyall in 1998 (Class unknown possily 2000). Neither case has ever been solved. Their cases were investigated by Campus security and resulted in serious public safety movements on campus. The Don't Walk Alone Program was created in response to Karen's disappearance. These were very significant events in the University's history. For? Against? Please comment.Lisapollison 10:39, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
