Talk:United States Civil Flag

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http://www.uscivilflags.org/images/pics/2b.jpg claims that it is still used as a should patch on U.S Custom Employees, correct? Lord Metroid 02:06, 14 January 2007 (UTC)


Hope I'm doing this right ...

Subject: The United States Civil Flag for Peacetime thanks to Liz - I found this. *Very* Interesting Read. recommended.

http://www.barefootsworld.net/uscivilflag.html  

elsewhere I do recall seeing some question as to if the gold fringe meant military or not however...

DM 68.3.50.54 05:15, 30 January 2007 (UTC)


Response: Notice that in the link above [1], the only evidence offered is a single work of fiction. The rest of the essay offers absolutely no sources for the argument. Notice that, of the two photographs toward the bottom, one is of a custom house and the other is allegedly of The Flag of Peace. There is no mention of who the people in the photograph actually are. Are they civilians? Are they members of the Coast Guard out of uniform proudly displaying their flag? There is nothing to indicate their connection to the flag in question. Furtermore, were they civilian peace-niks, the picture offers no proof that the flag is anything other than a traditional flag of war protest movements in the USA--in a vein similar to an upside-down flag also symbolizing something about the person's take on the current situation.

Were the civilian flag to have existed as a civil flag, do you not think that there would be incontrovertable evidence of its existence? Or is the lack of evidence part of the conspiracy? I just wonder how the government can be so effective at suppressing something as minor as this, while being incapable of supressing more important things. Svyatoslav 21:40, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Problems with this article

Even though there is clearly a lack of evidence in support of the Civil flag, that doesn't excuse this article for the use of weasel words and inaccurate headlines. Directly after the headline "Evidence for and against the Civil Flag" there are several points regarding evidence against it, but none supporting it.

Some of these assertions may have valid points to consider, but they are biased because of the use of weasel words. Here are a few examples:

"*Most vexillologists* consider the Civil Flag a hoax." "*It is believed* that the Civil Flag idea is a misunderstanding of Hawthorne's text and the flag behind it," "*The Flag is seen as* a marketing tool to get people to buy products representing the flag." Wsdavis 04:17, 3 April 2007 (UTC)