Talk:Union of Horodło

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Comments	heavy revision is needed, becasue this article represents Polish POV and is not properly referenced

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[edit] Dubious statements

Lithuanian noble families adopted by Polish clans? Let me cite from Polish heraldry article - Only a small number of szlachta families or clans (Polish: Rody) can be traced all the way back to the traditional clan system. Most szlachta, since at least the 12th century, were not related and their unions were mostly voluntary and based on followership and brotherhood rather than kinship. so revision is needed here for certain.--Lokyz 21:46, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

The article states that this act allowed several Lithuanian and Ruthenian boyars to use Polish coats of arms, likely so they would not only receive legal rights of szlachta but a good part of their status, too. There is no contradiction.-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  01:53, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

I do not doubt that part, I do doubt "clans" part- to my knowledge in Poland there were no clans like for example in Scotland, so i do find this part a bit confusing or misleading. It needs to be evaluated a bit further.--Lokyz 08:57, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Ok, can you elaborate on what exactly do you find confusing?-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  20:56, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

At the first I would like to know what is the misterious thing "Polish Clans" exactly:) because for now it does sound like the clans were multiple and had influence on everything, including foreign states.--Lokyz 19:35, 11 February 2007 (UTC)